Sources Say Goodell Will Suspend Vick for 2007

[AbeBeta]

Look at what they did to Paul Hornung. Wait, he is in the HoF.

Yeah, hut Hornung was a beloved idol of the fans. Few people like Vick to start.

 

[AbeBeta]

The real question is, which of these guys has the better surname? I'm going with Papadopolis. It's just fun to say.

Me, I'm glad he quit the game -- I loved Webster.

 

[joseephuss]

Yeah, hut Hornung was a beloved idol of the fans. Few people like Vick to start.

I wouldn't say few people like Vick to start. He has a big fan base. Well, had a big fan base. They don't like his possible involvement in the dog fighting. That tears him down further than any involvement in gambling. I know. Different era, different people.

 

[fortdick]

way too excessive IMO- first off he has not been convicted of anything.. second, how many players get slaps on the wrist for domestic assault or as the earlier poster pointed out manslaughter. goddell is bowing to public pressure.

You mean the same public that buys tickets, watches the games, buys the merchandise, and supports the business?

Dang nab it! How could he cave in to what they think!

 

[theogt]

You mean the same public that buys tickets, watches the games, buys the merchandise, and supports the business?

Dang nab it! How could he cave in to what they think!

I bet they'd sell more tickets and jerseys if Vick is the QB rather than Harrington.

In other words, that's not the kind of public pressure he was referring to.

 

[joseephuss]

I bet they'd sell more tickets and jerseys if Vick is the QB rather than Harrington.

In other words, that's not the kind of public pressure he was referring to.

Of course they would get more out of Vick than out of Harrington. Which team wouldn't? Harrington has shown himself to be a bad QB.

The comparison is between "Vick pre-trouble" and "Vick now in trouble". Ticket sales and merchandise sales would go down if Vick was the QB in Atlanta on opening day compared this year compared to last season.

 

[fortdick]

I bet they'd sell more tickets and jerseys if Vick is the QB rather than Harrington.

In other words, that's not the kind of public pressure he was referring to.

What oother kind of public pressure was he referring to? Most Americans love their dogs. Vick would be boo'ed everytime he walked on the field. Goodell's credibility would be shot. HE may be popular in Atlanta, but I doubt he would be warmly received anywhere else.

PETA would be out at every game and people would have to cross picket lines to get into the stadium. NEwspapers would print nothing but Vick stories and how he should not be allowed to play. MADD (Mothers against Dead Dogs) would be on every network talk show calling for a ban of Falcons games.

But the bottom line is that Goodell has a responsibility to act and not leave it to the team to do the dirty work. No way Vick could play this year without hurting the game.

Because of fan pressure.

 

[fortdick]

Of course they would get more out of Vick than out of Harrington. Which team wouldn't? Harrington has shown himself to be a bad QB.

The comparison is between "Vick pre-trouble" and "Vick now in trouble". Ticket sales and merchandise sales would go down if Vick was the QB in Atlanta on opening day compared this year compared to last season.

True, Besides, you can't buy Nike or Reebok anymore. His endorsements are drying up fast. I heard his jersey is no longer available at NFL.com. Haven't checked, though.

 

[theogt]

What oother kind of public pressure was he referring to? Most Americans love their dogs. Vick would be boo'ed everytime he walked on the field. Goodell's credibility would be shot. HE may be popular in Atlanta, but I doubt he would be warmly received anywhere else.

PETA would be out at every game and people would have to cross picket lines to get into the stadium. NEwspapers would print nothing but Vick stories and how he should not be allowed to play. MADD (Mothers against Dead Dogs) would be on every network talk show calling for a ban of Falcons games.

But the bottom line is that Goodell has a responsibility to act and not leave it to the team to do the dirty work. No way Vick could play this year without hurting the game.

Because of fan pressure.

You're seeing the distinction, but ignoring it. My point was that this wasn't about dollars. There's no doubt in my mind that even a tainted Michael Vick makes more money than a Joey Harrington, regardless of how much protesting goes on.

Edit: Nevermind, I see in your last post that you acknowledge the distinction.

 

[theogt]

Of course they would get more out of Vick than out of Harrington. Which team wouldn't? Harrington has shown himself to be a bad QB.

The comparison is between "Vick pre-trouble" and "Vick now in trouble". Ticket sales and merchandise sales would go down if Vick was the QB in Atlanta on opening day compared this year compared to last season.

So what if the ticket sales went down from '06 to '07 (which I doubt to be true, but we'll never know). That's not the decision. The decisions is Vick vs. Harrington. Not Vick '06 vs. Vick '07.

 

[5Stars]

I bet they'd sell more tickets and jerseys if Vick is the QB rather than Harrington.

In other words, that's not the kind of public pressure he was referring to.

Too late for that, theogt...they already pulled all the Vick jerseys our of the stores.

You can buy two of them on ebay...one to crap on and the other to cover it up with.

 

[theogt]

Too late for that, theogt...they already pulled all the Vick jerseys our of the stores.

You can buy two of them on ebay...one to crap on and the other to cover it up with.

Yeah, I figured they'd pull it. They wouldn't want something embarrassing to happen like actually selling more Vick jerseys post-incident.

 

[5Stars]

Yeah, I figured they'd pull it. They wouldn't want something embarrassing to happen like actually selling more Vick jerseys post-incident.

The NFL wants to disassociate themselves from Vick until all this pans out...that would be my guess as to why they pulled the jerseys.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Innocent until proven guilty.
Due process.

Those things are all fine and dandy.. but...

the sad there here about the justice system is.... even if guilty.... you can get away with alot of things or atleast minimize his involvement regardless if it was more... just not provable.

The fact that he was associated with this in some capacity makes it easy for Goodell to make this decision and I believe he made the right one. People are not stupid. They know that is Vick beats this they will know how he beat it. Dirtbad defense lawyers, money changing hands, smoke and mirrors etc...

If the noose doesnt fit you must aquit

 

[joseephuss]

So what if the ticket sales went down from '06 to '07 (which I doubt to be true, but we'll never know). That's not the decision. The decisions is Vick vs. Harrington. Not Vick '06 vs. Vick '07.

Harrington has nothing to do with it. He just happens to be the back up. The Falcons aren't making decisions based on the fact that Harrington becomes the starter. It is about playing Vick and not playing Vick. If they played Vick, there would be a lot of distractions to deal with. There would be a back lash that would cost the Falcons money. If Vick didn't run into all this trouble, then 2007 would not be too different from 2006 for him and the Falcons. Sure the Falcons are probably going to lose some fans and money this year because Vick is not playing, but they would lose more if they allowed him to be the starter with this whole mess to deal with.

 

[Kangaroo]

I am no lose for Vick remember you reap what you sew.
You are who your friends are ? Not saying that is totally fair but last I looked life has never ever fair and it never will be.

If he suspend tough cookie he used bad judgment and he will pay for that. Guess what due process is only via the criminal system. Heck in Texas we are a right to work state they can come tomorrow and fire me with out even having a reason.

 

[theogt]

Harrington has nothing to do with it.

Sure he does.

The Falcons aren't making decisions based on the fact that Harrington becomes the starter.

I have no idea what you're talking about. We're not even talking about the Falcons' decisions. I think you're confused.

It is about playing Vick and not playing Vick. If they played Vick, there would be a lot of distractions to deal with. There would be a back lash that would cost the Falcons money. If Vick didn't run into all this trouble, then 2007 would not be too different from 2006 for him and the Falcons. Sure the Falcons are probably going to lose some fans and money this year because Vick is not playing, but they would lose more if they allowed him to be the starter with this whole mess to deal with.

That's my point. I don't think this is true at all. I think the opposite is true.

 

[zeromaster]

10-pager, easily.

 

[fortdick]

Yeah, I figured they'd pull it. They wouldn't want something embarrassing to happen like actually selling more Vick jerseys post-incident.

And exactly what kind of person would be buying them? Gansta's! Not many self respecting working men would would want to own one.

BTW, you got yours on right now?

 

[03EBZ06]

The ESPN is reporting that Vick's co-defendents are expect to cut a deal with the prosecutor soon, if so, it is looking even worse for Vick, all of them pointing finger at Vick.

I think if both of Vick's co-defendents plead a deal, then he'll most likely suspend Vick.