Sporting News: Adding Roy Williams Not The Smartest Move

[sonnyboy]

Roy #11 as a #7 first round pick has not produced. Hence Detroit unloaded him.

You are wrong.

This is about one team starting over and another team adding the final piece of their puzzel.

Our offense will have improve significantly over the next ten weeks. By playoff time it will be in high gear.

By seasons end I will post these stats and you will be proven wrong beyond any doubt.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Nors does it again

and it's the same people everytime

 

[Boysboy]

You are wrong.

This is about one team starting over and another team adding the final piece of their puzzel.

Our offense will have improve significantly over the next ten weeks. By playoff time it will be in high gear.

By seasons end I will post these stats and you will be proven wrong beyond any doubt.

Again-RW11 is WELL in his prime, and by the time his contract expires, he'll barely be 30 and will STILL be in his prime.

It's not like we traded away picks for some guy who has only 1-2 years of future value left.

 

[31smackdown]

I just love how 95% of the media was saying how Dallas needed another receiver on the other side of TO because teams were starting to double him and Witten or even put a corner on Witten. Now they have one and they all say how it was unnecessary. And anyone has been paying attention they would notice that Crayton is not a true threat to anyone.. he was never going to stretch the field.. he is basically a slot guy who runs seam routes and deep slants. Austin probably has more potential as a #2 than Crayton.

Oh and those other recievers were not available this year. Everyone saw what happened when TO went out last year, the offense stalled. For what is essentially a 1st round pick.. which would have been used on a wr next year anyway.. this was a no brainer. Seriously a 3rd and a 6th.. I doubt you could move from #28 in the first round to # 10 for a 1st, 3rd and 6th next April... the criticism is absurd.

How is the team not better off with RW on the team?

 

[jobberone]

Roy #11 as a #7 first round pick has not produced. Hence Detroit unloaded him.

If you're going to make such statements then back it up with some reasons why you feel that way. Do you have any information of an objective nature to make us consider your statement?

You are wrong.

This is about one team starting over and another team adding the final piece of their puzzel.

Our offense will have improve significantly over the next ten weeks. By playoff time it will be in high gear.

By seasons end I will post these stats and you will be proven wrong beyond any doubt.

If he can throw up some numbers to back it up then let him do so. Perhaps we're missing something here.

 

[Hostile]

If you're going to make such statements then back it up with some reasons why you feel that way. Do you have any information of an objective nature to make us consider your statement?

I can answer that.

No.

 

[jobberone]

I can answer that.

No.

Oh man. I was waiting on nothing so I could make some worthless quip. You just ruined it all. :laugh2:

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

With all due respect(that isn't due) you don't know ****. 3600 yards and 28 TDs in his first 4 years isn't production?

Add in the fact that he's always been the focus of the defense in Detroit and he has never had a good QB throwing to him, and that's outstanding production.

 

[Hostile]

Oh man. I was waiting on nothing so I could make some worthless quip. You just ruined it all. :laugh2:

Oops.

 

[Boysboy]

Add in the fact that he's always been the focus of the defense in Detroit and he has never had a good QB throwing to him, and that's outstanding production.

The Lions also have one of the worst, if not the worst OL in all of football. That's b/c their FO chooses to play FF in every draft.

 

[jobberone]

Oops.

:laugh2: You just saved me some time and kept me on the high road.

 

[jbsg02]

Why are people acting like this was an impulse move because of a few bad weeks, that dumb. If anything, this was a move for the future. Roy is a great young WR that we have locked up for atleast 5 more years.

 

[Boysboy]

Why are people acting like this was an impulse move because of a few bad weeks, that dumb. If anything, this was a move for the future. Roy is a great young WR that we have locked up for atleast 5 more years.

Like it's been mentioned here many times, the Eagles have been hot on his trail ALL offseason. And they continued to go after him(and Boldin, for that matter) even AFTER they drafted DeSean Jackson.

Again-if this had been any other team that got Roy11, then that team would have been PRAISED.

 

[Hostile]

Like it's been mentioned here many times, the Eagles have been hot on his trail ALL offseason. And they continued to go after him(and Boldin, for that matter) even AFTER they drafted DeSean Jackson.

Again-if this had been any other team that got Roy11, then that team would have been PRAISED.

Hey, you forgot to say Werder.

:laugh2:

 

[dadymat]

http://m.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/26/lions-williams-on-the-market/
Posted by Mike Florio on September 26, 2008, 8:04 a.m.
Despite an 0-3 start and a little thing called the salary cap that prevents them from paying top dollar to two elite wideouts, the Lions claim that they don’t plan to trade receiver Roy Williams.
On Thursday, new G.M. Martin “I’m Sad My Longtime Friend And Boss Got Fired But I’m Happy I Got His Job” Mayhew announced the team’s intentions, but at the same time indicated that he would listen to any offers.
Although denied by spokesmen from both teams, reports have surfaced that the Lions have already received and are listening to an offer for Williams from the Minnesota Vikings. Whether the rumors are true, Martin’s comments tell us that the Lions are trying to get the word out that Williams is available, without losing any leverage.
As the season already looks like a lost cause for the Lions and given the presence of several high-end teams besides the Vikings who might be able to utilize Williams’ services in search of a Super Bowl title, franchises like the Cowboys, Eagles, and even the Giants (especially with the Plaxico Burress situation) would be wise to call Mayhew, and Mayhew would be wise to take the best offer he can get.
Williams is in the final year of his rookie deal. Second-year receiver Calvin Johnson is an emerging force. As the Cardinals have learned the hard way, it’s impossible to pay two high-end receivers market value.
The other possibility would be to keep Williams through 2008, slap the franchise tag on him in February, and trade him for a 2009 draft pick. The risk with that approach is that, if Williams suffers a serious injury over the next 13 games, he’d have far less trade value.







---right here he IS saying that RW11 is high end reciever and in the same sentence stating the reasons the Lions would trade him...not because he sux..........................

 

[silverbear]

My gas emissions know more football than Mike Florio.

Mike Florio, proprietor of the Daily Turd, is now writing for the Sporting News??

They shouldn't hold their breath waiting for me to subscribe, if their journalistic standards are THAT low...

That's a shame, before I got my first computer, I used to wait by the mailbox for the Sporting News to get to me... that, and Pro Football Weekly...

 

[silverbear]

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[silverbear]

I can never remember who is who between Nors and eduncan because they both literally leave me shaking me head, asking my computer screen "what, what the hell did that guy just say"?

Twin sons of different mothers...

 

[28 Joker]

I read this in Vela's blog, TBSR. It was posted by Vela in the comments. According to Vela, here is a breakdown of Chad Johnson, Roy E. Williams, and Anquan Bolden according to K.C. Joyner's YPA stats for wide receivers. Joyner breaks down a wide receiver's YPA as it relates to red, yellow, green, and non-rated cornerbacks. Red is the best. Then, green... yellow...ect.. For Example, Terence Newman rated as a red corner for 20007 according to Joyner. This is only for 2007. Remember, 2006 was Williams' best year.

Chad Johnson

Red 6.7
Yellow 7.4
Green 14.3
non-R 9.8
Overall 9.0


Roy E. Williams

Red 4.3
Yellow 8.7
Green 12.3
non-R 10.4
overall 9.1


Anquan Bolden

Red 4.9
Yellow 7.1
Green 15.6
non-R 10.2
overall 9.2


According to Vela, Chad Johnson matched up with red cornerbacks twice as much as Williams did. Johnson's 6.7 YPA against Joyner's top rated corners was very good. Obviously, Chad Johnson is a number one receiver. His work against red corners separates him from Bolden and Williams to a certain degree. Check this out.

T.O. put up a 9.4 YPA on Joyner's Red corners. That is torching them. On the other hand Patrick Crayton only put up a 2.6 YPA on the red corners. That should tell anyone about Dallas' need for a number 2 receiver.

Why post this?

Look at Roy Williams numbers against yellow and green corners. He lit them up. Vela uses Joyner's work to build a strong case for trading for Roy E. Williams. Vela says that Williams will be a perfect number 2 WR in this offense. Moreover, he states that Williams is younger than Chad Johnson, and he has all the tools to be the number one WR some day.

Some fans wanted Bolden, but Williams' YPA stats (for Joyner) match up with Bolden all day long. All three WRs stats are close to each other in this analysis.


Here is the link: http://www.blueandsilverreport.com/2008/10/16/cowboys-sign-lb-carlos-polk/#comments

 

[9xxx11]

Ok, so all of a sudden u cowboys fans became expert NFL analyst, talking bout bad trade this n dat, first off ur entitled to ur opinion, but some of u start critisizing him, like if ya even had 1/20th of the money he has, ya go and make comments bout him .... Now I know they're gonna be people saying if they had the money they would invest their money differently... BS.. Jerry been doing this for how long???? And all of a sudden a rookie Is going try to make it better then himt????!!!!! Lol!!!!!