News: ST: Taco Charlton or ‘Taquito’ making strides in camp after slow start

[sideon]

Like the idea. But I wonder how good of a teacher DWare would be.

Like, what worked for him wouldn't work for Taco. Completely different skillsets.

Just a specific nitpick, I guess. Not trying to dog you.

Spin & Rip moves are something that every DE needs to learn, you either have to be great at one or good at both. Taco's problem is not going for the rip when he's in position to get a sack, so Ware could help him with his instincts on that. I do wish that people would let the process play out before proclaiming concern after a couple of practices.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

If you are looking for a pressure player, I think Watt has a better chance of fitting the bill. Thought so before the draft, nothing I have seen from Charlton so far has changed that. All is not lost, he could still turn the corner. Perhaps he is just a slow starter.

I disagree. Taco will have the more impressive rookie
season and better career. That I'm willing to bet

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The Cowboys did diligence on not only Watt, but other players who were considered OLBs in a 3-4 (Terrell Basham, Tyus Bowser, Derek Rivers). I guess the question becomes why were they wasting time bringing them in for visits etc.

Maybe they brought them in to see what they could do in our system. Taco was the best of those hence that's who they drafted. I remember the same hate on the Frederick pick

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The Cowboys did diligence on not only Watt, but other players who were considered OLBs in a 3-4 (Terrell Basham, Tyus Bowser, Derek Rivers). I guess the question becomes why were they wasting time bringing them in for visits etc.

To view if they felt like they were viable DE in their 3-4 defense.
It would appear they felt Taco was better than Watt or the others as they chose him when they could have chosen any of the others at DE.

Now whether they were right remains to be seen.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I wish that we can give Taco some special attention and dedicated a pass rushing specialist to help him out. I'm all for hiring D Ware just to coach him up for a week or two and give him pointers. San Fran had him come for a day to help improve the pass rush. Why not hire D Ware and let me work with Taco 1 on 1 for a week or two?

Special attention is given, his name is Tyron Smith you can't get better than that.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...ning-camp-james-harrison/stories/201707310141

I like Watt, but let's not pretend Villanueva or whoever the hell Phazamn Odom is the equal Tyron Smith or even Lael Collins. He isn't bull rushing either one of them.
At 252lbs Watt is made for the 3-4. He would wear down in this scheme.

 

[Alexander]

At 252lbs Watt is made for the 3-4. He would wear down in this scheme.

As much as Marinelli rotates DL, how much is that really a factor?

Gregory was 240 soaking wet. Mayowa is 240. Demontre Moore is 250. Lawrence is just ten pounds heavier at 265.

Again, if the idea is a pressure player, not an every down grinder, then it is questionable if Charlton is that type of player.

 

[CowboyGil]

of course, TJ isn't going against Tyron or La'el. So there's that.

 

[visionary]

I wish that we can give Taco some special attention and dedicated a pass rushing specialist to help him out. I'm all for hiring D Ware just to coach him up for a week or two and give him pointers. San Fran had him come for a day to help improve the pass rush. Why not hire D Ware and let me work with Taco 1 on 1 for a week or two?

Give him time

 

[Verdict]

Speed rushers tend to get off to a much faster start getting sacks than guys relying more on strength or technique. I don't expect a lot of sacks out of Taco, unless players are flushed into him, this year. If he is going to turn into a Greg Hardy type, my guess is it won't be this year.

 

[Verdict]

I just don't see Watt as a scheme fit so I agree with the Cowboys taking Taco > Watt.

Yes, Watt may get more sacks and get better production, but would be out manned as a 4-3 DE.

 

[Verdict]

As much as Marinelli rotates DL, how much is that really a factor?

Gregory was 240 soaking wet. Mayowa is 240. Demontre Moore is 250. Lawrence is just ten pounds heavier at 265.

Again, if the idea is a pressure player, not an every down grinder, then it is questionable if Charlton is that type of player.

Like I have said before, Taco will probably be strong at the point of attack stopping the run, but I don't really see him being a huge pressure player at DE at getting to the QB his first year. Almost Anthony Spencer might be his ceiling as a pass rusher (probably less) but he might be slightly stronger vs the run.

 

[Verdict]

As much as Marinelli rotates DL, how much is that really a factor?

Gregory was 240 soaking wet. Mayowa is 240. Demontre Moore is 250. Lawrence is just ten pounds heavier at 265.

Again, if the idea is a pressure player, not an every down grinder, then it is questionable if Charlton is that type of player.

I think it is sort of ODD that we drafted Gregory to be a DE when Watt is a better, more sound selection than Gregory, without the headache. They are similar players. Watt may, in fact, be bigger than Gregory. Gregory was an odd scheme fit. More odd than Watt actually due to his tiny, stick-like legs.

 

[Trouty]

I think it is sort of ODD that we drafted Gregory to be a DE when Watt is a better, more sound selection than Gregory, without the headache. They are similar players. Watt may, in fact, be bigger than Gregory. Gregory was an odd scheme fit. More odd than Watt actually due to his tiny, stick-like legs.

Gregory could bend it like Beckham (David; soccer term) and was quick twitch blazing fast... and would be a scheme fit in any base D. He was also adding weight to his frame. Muscle.

 

[TheCount]

As long as he doesn't celebrate by smoking a bowl, this is good news.

 

[reddyuta]

Speed rushers tend to get off to a much faster start getting sacks than guys relying more on strength or technique. I don't expect a lot of sacks out of Taco, unless players are flushed into him, this year. If he is going to turn into a Greg Hardy type, my guess is it won't be this year.

i think so too,i think a 4-5 sack campaign playing part time will be a good start.

 

[Verdict]

Gregory could bend it like Beckham (David; soccer term) and was quick twitch blazing fast... and would be a scheme fit in any base D. He was also adding weight to his frame. Muscle.

All I am saying is he was light for a DE. Watt was as big or bigger. If Gregory was a scheme fit, why not Watt?

 

[Toro9]

Why the feminization of his name??

Doesn't "Taquito" sound kind of wimpy?

 

[ConstantReboot]

That would be better for next year.

Rookies get more info from coaches in training camp than they can process.

The tips and tricks he might get from Ware will make a lot more sense once he is up to speed on the basics.

I think this will accelerate Taco's learning faster with individual attention. When they have one coach teaching them the overall basics to one individual - rather than having several coaches teaching them general tactics.

Dak benefited from having Wilson, Garrett, and Linehan, all were previous QBs who coached him throughout his rookie year. More individual coaching made him a much better player than he would otherwise.

 

[xwalker]

I think this will accelerate Taco's learning faster with individual attention. When they have one coach teaching them the overall basics to one individual - rather than having several coaches teaching them general tactics.

Dak benefited from having Wilson, Garrett, and Linehan, all were previous QBs who coached him throughout his rookie year. More individual coaching made him a much better player than he would otherwise.

Maybe but the coaches all have the same message.

Ware once implied that having Haley around was more of a distraction than a benefit.

Also Ware made statements after he departed that implied he didn't like the way Marinelli's used him; although it was vague enough that he could have been referring to the previous DC.