Stafford didn't get in

[_sturt_]

No big deal as it turned out, but there's a reason the line judge on the left side ran in and did not signal touchdown. Stafford was stopped. The replay that ESPN showed was only what happened after forward motion was stopped. Red was right to be hot.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

No big deal as it turned out, but there's a reason the line judge on the left side ran in and did not signal touchdown. Stafford was stopped. The replay that ESPN showed was only what happened after forward motion was stopped. Red was right to be hot.

Did they blow the whistle? Stafford's reaction proved that he didn't think the ball crossed the plane in time. What a messed up play by the officials.

 

[CATCH17]

The key is when was the whistle blown because eventually he did get in.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Based solely on where Stafford's body was, I don't see how the ball was not across the plane.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

The key is when was the whistle blown because eventually he did get in.

I thought he clearly got in

 

[AsthmaField]

I thought the same thing. Whistle blew and then he got across... but oh well.

Mamacita... love the sig pic. Wow

 

[_sturt_]

The key is when was the whistle blown because eventually he did get in.

That will be studied, I'm sure... but since when does a line judge start running onto the field like that before he or someone else blows a whistle?

 

[viman96]

The ball definitely broke the plane of the endzone. No idea if the ref blew the whistle before the ball crossed the endzone.

 

[_sturt_]

Based solely on where Stafford's body was, I don't see how the ball was not across the plane.

The one clear view from the goal line that there is before he gets covered up, Stafford was turned sideways, and the ball was essentially where the line judge was marking it.

(Until he wasn't marking it there any more.)

 

[muck4doo]

He got in. Didn't matter anyways. Lions go home with tails tucked again.

 

[Nav22]

What pissed me (and Garrett) off is that they originally called him down short. Right or wrong, that was their call.

The Lions surely would've challenged and there probably wasn't quite enough evidence to overturn the call.

Then an hour later, the refs changed their minds on the original call, thus flipping it so there would need to be undisputable evidence that he DIDN'T get in to overturn it.

That's garbage. You can't change your mind on the original call an hour after the fact, even if you wished you had a do-over.

 

[viman96]

I do not see it that way. You want the refs to get the call right and they did so before the next play. IMO it was not that long and they made the correct call. It was a TD.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I do not see it that way. You want the refs to get the call right and they did so before the next play. IMO it was not that long and they made the correct call. It was a TD.

Then why wasn't it called one in the first place? Some of the controversy in calls is due to the behavior of the officials themselves. They need to clean up their act.

 

[Risen Star]

He was in.

What about this?...



Quit crying about the officials.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

He was in.

What about this?...



Quit crying about the officials.

This makes up for the Brandon Pettigrew play where he grabbed Hitchens' facemask and all they talked about was Hitchens face guarding which isn't even illegal. Same team too.

 

[_sturt_]

The issue is that Stafford was NOT in until AFTER forward progress stopped... HENCE the side judge comes running in to mark it short. Was he in EVENTUALLY? Sure. But that avoids the real issue. Did a whistle blow before or while the side judge comes running in? We don't know that. It would be odd, but perhaps not totally without precedent. That's what I'm guessing will be said when Red asks NY to review it (... ie, that the whistle wasn't yet blown).

 

[Texas_Pete]

Yeah, his momentum was definitely stopped.

 

[_sturt_]

He was in.

What about this?...



Quit crying about the officials.

I agree with DET fans on this one. I'd be pissed if it happened to our guy. And I'd have a right to be.

I'm not a chronic complainer where it concerns refs, but I'm all for holding them accountable... I mean, why shouldn't they be?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Based solely on where Stafford's body was, I don't see how the ball was not across the plane.

Yea. I have a habit of fast forwarding the dvr The instant the other team scores so I don't see their celebration and stuff and after one review I quickly fast forwarded

 

[Lutonio]

The key is when was the whistle blown because eventually he did get in.

And the original call on the field.