Stafford didn't get in

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I thought Dak got a helmet to helmet hit when he was held up short of the 1st down. His forward progress was clearly stopped already and here comes a DL? that tackles him head first...no call.
 

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If a DB initiates contact and moves into the WR without turning his head to track the ball before it arrives, SOME crews will actually let the WR try to fight his way free if he's trying to make the catch.

Which is exactly what happened here.

Some crews would've called offsetting penalties, replay the down.
 

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I agree with DET fans on this one. I'd be pissed if it happened to our guy. And I'd have a right to be.

I'm not a chronic complainer where it concerns refs, but I'm all for holding them accountable... I mean, why shouldn't they be?
I disagree. If you only look at that picture without taking the whole play in context then sure you can cry foul. But when you look at how the DB dry humped Dez before the hand even came up to the facemask then you sound like a sore loser who just wants to cry. What happened first?

I just can't see the crying foul if a player commits a foul while the player is already being interfered with. The only that happens first is the one that impacted the play. The second one is just a crybaby fan who can't handle losing,
 

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Stafford got in..
He got in before the whistle blew
He also got in before his progress was stopped
 

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What pissed me (and Garrett) off is that they originally called him down short. Right or wrong, that was their call.

The Lions surely would've challenged and there probably wasn't quite enough evidence to overturn the call.

Then an hour later, the refs changed their minds on the original call, thus flipping it so there would need to be undisputable evidence that he DIDN'T get in to overturn it.

That's garbage. You can't change your mind on the original call an hour after the fact, even if you wished you had a do-over.
I am 100% convinced, and I have read articles that allude to it, that the refs are in communication with the league in NY in real time through those headsets they all wear now.

I am ok with instant replay and communication with NY during the replay process, but I am fully against a guy sitting in a room full of screens making calls in real time during the game.
 

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I am 100% convinced, and I have read articles that allude to it, that the refs are in communication with the league in NY in real time through those headsets they all wear now.

I am ok with instant replay and communication with NY during the replay process, but I am fully against a guy sitting in a room full of screens making calls in real time during the game.

I'm convinced of that too. I've seen holding called in various games from a ref that is 40 yards away, often times with a delay. Big Brother Blandino is watching and is in their ears.

SNF and MNF is worse because NY attention is devoted to a single game and not spread out to a list of games at the same time.
 

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Seems like there's always controversy or funny business when we play the Loincloths, I mean the Lions. But 42 - 21 left no question. Our best, most exciting, most convincing win all season. And right on time.
 

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This this thread is useless without a video or animated gif....
 

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I agree with DET fans on this one. I'd be pissed if it happened to our guy. And I'd have a right to be.

I'm not a chronic complainer where it concerns refs, but I'm all for holding them accountable... I mean, why shouldn't they be?

Because they will never get every call right.

So complaining every week, which seems to go on here after every game, gets old.
 

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What pissed me (and Garrett) off is that they originally called him down short. Right or wrong, that was their call.

The Lions surely would've challenged and there probably wasn't quite enough evidence to overturn the call.

Then an hour later, the refs changed their minds on the original call, thus flipping it so there would need to be undisputable evidence that he DIDN'T get in to overturn it.

That's garbage. You can't change your mind on the original call an hour after the fact, even if you wished you had a do-over.

Exactly! Nobody signaled TD, and then all of the sudden they changed their minds. Last week Mike Pereira was talking about "undercover officiating". He said he suspected somebody who was watching replays was communicating with the officials on the field, and telling them when they had the spot of the ball wrong. I understand them wanting to get the calls on the field right, but if they're going to do that they need to change the rules, because right now that isn't how things are supposed to work. Detroit should have been forced to use a challenge on that play.
 

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Exactly! Nobody signaled TD, and then all of the sudden they changed their minds. Last week Mike Pereira was talking about "undercover officiating". He said he suspected somebody who was watching replays was communicating with the officials on the field, and telling them when they had the spot of the ball wrong. I understand them wanting to get the calls on the field right, but if they're going to do that they need to change the rules, because right now that isn't how things are supposed to work. Detroit should have been forced to use a challenge on that play.

Like Pereira is one to talk. He was the first one to pipe up about the Dez catch against Green Bay. He knows that thr NFL office in NY is listening to his comments while they sort out the call.
 
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