Stanback Practice Session

[TheCount]

I'm not impressed with either one. I do think Hurd's physical limitations are going to prevent him from ever being a good WR. Austin, though physically gifted, just doesn't have good hands or control over his body. That can be corrected in time, but it's unlikely.

What physical limitations are you talking about? Now I'm intrigued.

 

[theogt]

What physical limitations are you talking about? Now I'm intrigued.

He's not particularly fast or quick.

 

[TheCount]

He's not particularly fast or quick.

That's kind of true I guess, but there are receivers around the league that aren't burners and still contribute. I don't know, I think he's big and can go up to get the ball, you're probably right that he could use some more speed but I don't think the fact that he doesn't have Randy Moss speed means he's a flop.

 

[FLcowboy]

No one actually questions his speed. He's very fast. It's good to hear his route running looks good. Based on the VERY VERY limited time we saw him in preseason it looked as though he had nice hands.

I'd like to see him in the lineup against Philly. He can't do any worse than Hurd at 3rd WR.

Yeah, Hurd has been somewhat of a disappointment. I thought Minnesota's pass defense was supposed to be bad, but they seemed to throttle the Cowboy receivers, forcing Romo to hit his checkdowns. Probably some of the dropoff was due to Romo's hammy, but still, the passing game was not that impressive, outside of the stats.

 

[Wood]

The Stanback situation does have "Henson" qualities to it. When Jerry traded for Henson - Jerry spoke to anyone who would listen that Henson almost had these devine football qualities. The fan base was kept waiting for just a glimpse...anything. But seeing Henson on the field was very rare (now we know why). Fastforward to Stanback.....Ireland basically presented the media with a two day dissertation on his affinity for Stanback skills. If you didnt know the person he was talking about...you would guess it was a top 5 player taken in the draft. We are about half-way thru the season...and Stanback cant get on the field (being 100% healthy to boot). The cowboy kick return is struggling....Miles Austin has been marginal at best....and Terry Glenn has been on the shelf the entire season.....yet NO Stanback. Gee I wonder why.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Speed is somewhat overrated in the NFL...

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

He's not particularly fast or quick.

Crayton is neither particularly fast or quick, but he seems to find ways to get open.

However, if he had the "get open" skill of Crayton, I think we would have seen it by now. Crayton showed it all the time playing in the slot and had further to go from a small school where he played QB.

 

[Idgit]

The Stanback situation does have "Henson" qualities to it. When Jerry traded for Henson - Jerry spoke to anyone who would listen that Henson almost had these devine football qualities. The fan base was kept waiting for just a glimpse...anything. But seeing Henson on the field was very rare (now we know why). Fastforward to Stanback.....Ireland basically presented the media with a two day dissertation on his affinity for Stanback skills. If you didnt know the person he was talking about...you would guess it was a top 5 player taken in the draft. We are about half-way thru the season...and Stanback cant get on the field (being 100% healthy to boot). The cowboy kick return is struggling....Miles Austin has been marginal at best....and Terry Glenn has been on the shelf the entire season.....yet NO Stanback. Gee I wonder why.

Seriously? You wonder why a QB-conversion project can't get on the field with the number 2 offense in the NFL in is rookie year after missing most of training camp? I don't believe you. I think you're just posting to get attention.

 

[dmq]

Didn't mention S's back (or lack thereof) of speed. Have heard before that Cowboys can't cover S in practice.

BTW, is it a good thing that our secondary can't cover a converted QB that hasn't even made it on the field?

 

[Vintage]

BTW, is it a good thing that our secondary can't cover a converted QB that hasn't even made it on the field?

Depends.

Was it an injured Newman who couldn't guard him?

Or Henry, who has been susceptible to fast WRs?

Or the inexperienced Reeves?

Or, more likely, Nate Jones or Evan Oglesby? I'd say thats about par for the course if Jones and Oglesby were struggling with him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I seriously doubt that he "can't be covered". He's just coming along and getting better as he learns a new position and gets in better football shape.

Gawd forbid a young player improves without somone finding a way to trash his teammates on the other side of the ball.

 

[theogt]

I seriously doubt that he "can't be covered". He's just coming along and getting better as he learns a new position and gets in better football shape.

Gawd forbid a young player improves without somone finding a way to trash his teammates on the other side of the ball.

I dunno. It's not just his speed. The way he cuts on the field, his route-running, when worked up, could be ridiculously good.

 

[eduncan22]

I dunno. It's not just his speed. The way he cuts on the field, his route-running, when worked up, could be ridiculously good.

I hope this is not true...but...



maybe Stanback was a bad pick.

We sure could have used a corner with that pick.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I dunno. It's not just his speed. The way he cuts on the field, his route-running, when worked up, could be ridiculously good.

Oh, I totally agree. The guy has great skills and I have no doubt he'll be a player once he learns his craft. Unlike some big, fast guys, Stanback is actually quick and can cut.

I just doubt he's torching everyone that badly... If he were, he'd be active for the games.

Now is he burning Nate Jones? That one I can buy.

 

[AsthmaField]

The Stanback situation does have "Henson" qualities to it. When Jerry traded for Henson - Jerry spoke to anyone who would listen that Henson almost had these devine football qualities. The fan base was kept waiting for just a glimpse...anything. But seeing Henson on the field was very rare (now we know why). Fastforward to Stanback.....Ireland basically presented the media with a two day dissertation on his affinity for Stanback skills. If you didnt know the person he was talking about...you would guess it was a top 5 player taken in the draft. We are about half-way thru the season...and Stanback cant get on the field (being 100% healthy to boot). The cowboy kick return is struggling....Miles Austin has been marginal at best....and Terry Glenn has been on the shelf the entire season.....yet NO Stanback. Gee I wonder why.

Geeeez.... everyone misses on some players... just because Jerry took a chance on Henson having the football IQ to go along with the skills he obviously did have, doesn't mean that he and Ireland are wrong about Stanback.

Jones also thought that Romo couldn't be anything more than a career backup in the NFL. Does that also mean that every undrafted free agent that Jerry doesn't think is good is going to be an all-pro? Is jamaica Rector going to Hawaii? Lousaka Polite? Matt Moore?

I mean, afterall... Jerry thought Romo wasn't any good either, so those UDFA's should be difference makers.

C'mon...

Jerry was talking about Henson's physical ability. And he was right. Henson definately had that. He had a great arm and was a good athlete. However, what Jerry couldn't see, with Henson having his baseball career, was that he had very little football acumen. He had no pocket presence and just wasn't any good at QB'ing. Those things can't be seen when he's been playing baseball for years.

So, Jerry was correct that Henson did have great physical traits. He just wasn't a very good QB and Jerry never said that he was. He only hoped he would be, like the rest of us. He took a chance. A pretty cheap QB with great physical ability. Can't blame Jones for trying.

Heck, every team who misses on a first round QB thought their guy had the ability to play QB in the NFL at a high level, or else they wouldn't have used a first rounder on him.

At least Jerry didn't waste a first rounder on Henson.

 

[theogt]

Oh, I totally agree. The guy has great skills and I have no doubt he'll be a player once he learns his craft. Unlike some big, fast guys, Stanback is actually quick and can cut.

I just doubt he's torching everyone that badly... If he were, he'd be active for the games.

Now is he burning Nate Jones? That one I can buy.

He's been active for 2 of the last 3 games I believe. If they weren't planning on him being involved this season, I'm not sure he'd be active. I'd bet we see him sooner than later on the field.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I hope this is not true...but...



maybe Stanback was a bad pick.

We sure could have used a corner with that pick.

Take your pick, which one we taking?

A.J. Davis
John Bowie
Fred Bennett
David Jones
Tarell Brown
Corey Graham
William Gay
Michael Coe
David Irons
Rashad Barksdale
Ryan Smith
Courtney Brown
Trumaine McBride
C.J. Wilson
Alan Ball
Marcus Hamilton
Ramzee Robinson

 

[Hostile]

Take your pick, which one we taking?

A.J. Davis
John Bowie
Fred Bennett
David Jones
Tarell Brown
Corey Graham
William Gay
Michael Coe
David Irons
Rashad Barksdale
Ryan Smith
Courtney Brown
Trumaine McBride
C.J. Wilson
Alan Ball
Marcus Hamilton
Ramzee Robinson

Bam!


Right in the mouth.

 

[zrinkill]

Take your pick, which one we taking?

A.J. Davis
John Bowie
Fred Bennett
David Jones
Tarell Brown
Corey Graham
William Gay
Michael Coe
David Irons
Rashad Barksdale
Ryan Smith
Courtney Brown
Trumaine McBride
C.J. Wilson
Alan Ball
Marcus Hamilton
Ramzee Robinson

I love when people make this pathetic troll look stupid.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Only problem is that Hurd is so good on special teams -- it seems like Sam is in on every kickoff tackle. And there's no way to really simulate that in practice to see if Stanback would be any good at covering kicks.

I'd like to see him, too, though. The position is new for him, but I have a feeling the game won't be too big for him. He's used to having the ball in his hands every play in front of big crowds in a major conference. I have no doubt he's going to surprise some people once he gets the ball in his hands.

Well Miles Austin doesn't do jack. So use Owens, Crayton, Stanback, Hurd