State of the Boys at the Bye

jterrell

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Dallas sits tied with all the other fair to middling NFCE teams at 2-3.
The good news for Cowboys fans is at least we have an excuse for being so.

I don't think it was unreasonable to ask this team to win "some games" without Romo/Dez and the other 5 or 6 guys out right now. I thought New Orleans was a dead dog but perhaps I was simply mistaken after what they did to ATL last night. Still 3 straight losses and it is time for this team to play desperate.

As Parcells used to say and Jerry has taken on now you just gotta get in the tournament.
By and large that one statement is all you need... but we'll break it down anyways.

Offense: Romo isn't coming back for another 4-5 games so Matt Cassel gets his shot to prove he should be the long-term back up and a part of a winning solution here. I've always liked Weeden just fine as a clipboard holder but I think it is fair to all to assume he has a new profession this time next year. Romo/Cassel/Moore sounds just fine to me. I suspect Cassel will be much more like a young Romo. He is going to try to win games not just drive the bus. That means he may lose some games but he'll go down shooting. If so, put me down for that as opposed to the death by a thousand cuts of last week.

RB by committee hasn't worked. But I don't know if Jim Brown or Barry Sanders could have saved this offense.
The OL hasn't been sharp because some guys have been banged up. And we've had little threat down the field to draw safeties off the run game. Just ask church or Wilcox how much easier it is to make tackles playing 8 yards off the ball and filling holes as it is running up from 15 yards and trying to handle an open field RB. But the OL should be healthier after the Bye week then they've been all year and a fairly fresh Collins should be a large step up. If Cassel will really challenge downfield then we should see some room to run finally.

WR is a position where Dallas needs another outside option. Dez is Dez and Twill is a nice 3rd outside guy. That works most times but he is not ready to step up and take on more. He can't catch. The other outside guys can't get open. While everyone is salivating over RB next draft point me at the WRs.

But the pieces are in place here or an elite offense once Romo returns. The OL is good and can be great. Romo is a top 5 QB and the WR/RB have more than enough if Dez is heathy.

Defense: Dallas has a very capable defense except perhaps at Safety. Even that group can be sound if given the help it needs at LB and CB. You can ask those guys to be in the right spot but when singled they are going to lose. The far more talented guys around them like Sean Lee have to help them out. And you gotta keep them away from Belichek/Brady. That duo sees weaknesses in DBs in their sleep and abuse it.

The pass rush was much improved the second Hardy took the field. He is probably the best pass rusher in football. Add Gregory back and man, that group gets real nasty. Concern is there with Mo holding up. The Bye is probably good for him. His body hasn't shown he can handle 16 games at a high level. No one else can really man cover top guys with OScan out so we need the training staff to monitor that and to make sure Mo gets rest/treatment in week. Mo is probably gone after this season but make no mistake this defense goes about as far as he does this year.

All in all this team has been hit about as hard as you can by injuries and suspension. But the talent to be elite does exist. No team wants to face a healthy Cowboys in the playoffs. If Romo proves prescient and we get to the big dance versus NE expect a very different ballgame.
 

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Due to injuries, we have a lack of our best talent to put on the field... for that reason, we suck. As those chess pieces return to the chess board, we will get better. How good will we get? At full strength, IMO we should be better than last year.
 

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If Cassel can make the LB or Safeties pause than we are miles ahead on offense and our running game should improve. It will soon be time for some of the opposing DB's to start making some business decisions on the outside once this occurs.
I see the Oline as improving more of the blame belongs on the RB's and the lane choices they have been making IMO.
Granted Free and Leary have been subpar but Martin, Fred, and Smith are back to elite level after the shaky start to the season. Collins is going to help in November in Oct some of the rookie rust will be getting cleaned off, can not think of a better team for him to get his start than the Giants.
#1 on bucket list is coaching we need to be a little more chaotic on first down rather than the run no matter what mentality.
We are not the 90's boys who can impose our will on any Defensive line or scheme. They are getting paid the big money to coach yet it is well disguised on field. IMO
 

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It' something that can be remedied next game, but Dallas is one full game back of the Giants...so not tied. Again, that can be fixed soon :)

Totally agree that this team should win at least a few games without Romo. 0-7 would be inexcusable.

Can't wait to see if the defense can take it to Eli and NY.
 

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The pass rush was much improved the second Hardy took the field. He is probably the best pass rusher in football. Add Gregory back and man, that group gets real nasty.

This. This pass rush may give us a chance. Marinelli will continue to send waves at the QB. But with Hardy and Gregory in the mix, those waves will be effective.
 

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I don't subscribe to the myth that this underachieving offensive line is somehow 'banged up'. They're just not playing as well as they did last year.

The line isn't playing bad at all. They're playing pretty well right now actually. Leary had a down game and Free is regressing but the other 3 are playing just like last year.

They didn't play as well the first two games but they've basically returned to form.

The problem is no one respects Weeden. Teams watched film and realized he can't pull the trigger on a simple out route, one of the easiest throws in the NFL. It makes your run game ineffective when teams are laughing at your QB, and realizing the run game is your only hope.

The Patriots punked Weeden, which is why he's sitting. If Cassel can simply anticipate a route at the NFL level, our run game will improve.
 

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I don't subscribe to the myth that this underachieving offensive line is somehow 'banged up'. They're just not playing as well as they did last year.
FACT: Martin was injured. FACT: Leary was injured. so how in the world is that not banged up?
Free is another story in that it might be that those foot injuries have finally reached a point where he cannot really perform physically that well anymore and is probably the biggest concern on the O line.
 

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The line isn't playing bad at all. They're playing pretty well right now actually. Leary had a down game and Free is regressing but the other 3 are playing just like last year.

They didn't play as well the first two games but they've basically returned to form.

The problem is no one respects Weeden. Teams watched film and realized he can't pull the trigger on a simple out route, one of the easiest throws in the NFL. It makes your run game ineffective when teams are laughing at your QB, and realizing the run game is your only hope.

The Patriots punked Weeden, which is why he's sitting. If Cassel can simply anticipate a route at the NFL level, our run game will improve.

That's not close yo the whole truth.

Even the Cowboys themselves know the line isn't playing up to it's previous standard, if they can admit it, I don't know why some fans can't?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowb...arch-for-run-game-answers-to-get-back-on-plan
 

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I don't subscribe to the myth that this underachieving offensive line is somehow 'banged up'. They're just not playing as well as they did last year.

I think it's both. Leary obviously had injury issues. Free was never very good so even just a tiny decline in his physical ability was enough to cause a rapid decline in his ability.

Tyron, Fred and Martin have been a little off. Martin might have been due to his injury or just due to a 2nd year player missing almost all of training camp. I think Fred's issue is that he does not get as much help as most Centers get which is a scheme issue.
 

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I don't subscribe to the myth that this underachieving offensive line is somehow 'banged up'. They're just not playing as well as they did last year.

What team have you bee watching?
No Romo, No Dez
Free, Martin, Leary all having issues from TC and even Smith had a pec muscle issue.
Witten had 2 sprained ankles and a sprained knee, playing through all that.

Yeah, I can see they are not banged up. They may be MASH candidates, but banged up...no, never....
 

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FACT: Martin was injured. FACT: Leary was injured. so how in the world is that not banged up?
Free is another story in that it might be that those foot injuries have finally reached a point where he cannot really perform physically that well anymore and is probably the biggest concern on the O line.

FACT: Martin was injured in training camp and was cleared to return to the field and has been out there for weeks now. Time to let that one go already.

FACT: Leary was injured, missed time, and then was cleared to return and put back into the starting lineup. If he wasn't ready to go, the trainers and coaches who see him each and every day are morons to put him back out there.

These attempted excuses for poor play are lame. The team and the players can admit they're not playing up to par, but some fans can't bear it.
 

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I think it's both. Leary obviously had injury issues. Free was never very good so even just a tiny decline in his physical ability was enough to cause a rapid decline in his ability.

There are plenty of factors, but injury isn't one of them.

Tyron, Fred and Martin have been a little off. Martin might have been due to his injury or just due to a 2nd year player missing almost all of training camp. I think Fred's issue is that he does not get as much help as most Centers get which is a scheme issue.

I think they've all been a little off at various points throughout this season. There could be a number of reasons for it, but I don't see any injuries as valid reasons.
 

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The line isn't playing bad at all. They're playing pretty well right now actually. Leary had a down game and Free is regressing but the other 3 are playing just like last year.

They didn't play as well the first two games but they've basically returned to form.

The problem is no one respects Weeden. Teams watched film and realized he can't pull the trigger on a simple out route, one of the easiest throws in the NFL. It makes your run game ineffective when teams are laughing at your QB, and realizing the run game is your only hope.

The Patriots punked Weeden, which is why he's sitting. If Cassel can simply anticipate a route at the NFL level, our run game will improve.

Even is 3 of them are perfect, it's difficult to run if 2 of them are struggling. Leary returned too soon from injury. He was just not the same player that he was last year. Free has never been very good but is really struggling now. It's embarrassing to watch him at times. Martin has to stay with the initial rusher when defenses stunt because he is unable to hand-off that play to Free. In the run game they try to scheme to get Free matched up on LBs because he gets overpowered by DLinemen; however, he often can't even get movement on LBs.
 
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