State of the Coaching Staff

Dave_in-NC

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Hostile;3240265 said:
Bill Belichick couldn't get it done in Cleveland either. I think he's proven himself in the interim.

Please note before you fly off the handle that I did NOT compare Wade to Belichick.

I don't fly off the handle.:D

So Phillips all time winning percentage that gets thrown around here should mean nothing either, right? And yes I know it isn't that bad just in Dallas either.
 

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Hostile;3240262 said:
Huh? I merely said I can't see putting a coach whose team gave up 90 points in 2 straight games ahead of him. Hell, I can't see it in front of anyone.

90 points man. Do you realize how much fun that would be to live with? I've never seen some of the guys on here so happy. They'd be having orgasms of delight if we did that.

Thats fine but you in the same breath discount the idea of getting a guy that just last year took pretty much the same team to the super bowl. It works both ways.

Yes his defense got annihilated but outside of a DB or two who were dropping like flies its not like they are loaded on talent on that side of the ball.

Quite frankly what he has been able to get out of Fitz, Warner, Boldin and a couple of DBs has been nothing short of amazing these past two seasons.
 

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Dave_in-NC;3240269 said:
I don't fly off the handle.:D

So Phillips all time winning percentage that gets thrown around here should mean nothing either, right? And yes I know it isn't that bad just in Dallas either.
Have you ever seen me pay attention to his winning % anywhere else? Or do I focus on Dallas only? You know the answer without me even asking it.

I haven't been the guy's biggest fan. That's no secret. He has earned an extension IMO. Today's game doesn't change that for me.

I am going to get up early and watch the game. I wasn't able to see it today but I recorded it.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3240273 said:
Thats fine but you in the same breath discount the idea of getting a guy that just last year took pretty much the same team to the super bowl. It works both ways.

Yes his defense got annihilated but outside of a DB or two who were dropping like flies its not like they are loaded on talent on that side of the ball.

Quite frankly what he has been able to get out of Fitz, Warner, Boldin and a couple of DBs has been nothing short of amazing these past two seasons.
You're welcome to him mang.

I'm not a critic of Whisenhunt, but 90 points in 2 games I can't close my eyes to. You do whatever makes you feel sexy.
 

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Hostile;3240265 said:
Bill Belichick couldn't get it done in Cleveland either. I think he's proven himself in the interim.

Please note before you fly off the handle that I did NOT compare Wade to Belichick.

Saying you didn't doesn't mean you didn't. You certainly compared their circumstances.

Once Belicchek got Brady its been history ever since. Wade has had both Elway and Romo.
 

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Hostile;3240277 said:
You're welcome to him mang.

I'm not a critic of Whisenhunt, but 90 points in 2 games I can't close my eyes to. You do whatever makes you feel sexy.

I don't really have enough information to say what I do want. He is not going anywhere so its a moot point anyway.

I do have what I feel is enough information on our current coaching staff.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3240281 said:
Saying you didn't doesn't mean you didn't. You certainly compared their circumstances.

Once Belicchek got Brady its been history ever since. Wade has had both Elway and Romo.
No, I compared the irrelevancy of what Wade did before to the irrelevancy of what Belichick did before.

I only care about what Wade has done here. I was the exact same way about Parcells. He was 0-2 here. He is the exact opposite of Belichick in that regard because he had success everywhere and then flopped here.

I don't care what Wade's record was in his other stops. Those are teams I don't give a crap about. What he has done here and where the team are, matter to me. I don't care whether it was a lateral or a forward pass that Tennessee pulled off. I don't care that Parcells had 2 Super Bowls with the Giants and took the Patriots to one and turned the Jets around.

I care about what they did and do in Dallas. No comparisons made, just stating facts. The fact being, I don't care about what they do elsewhere. That is a fact. I am telling you point blank I do not care.
 

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I want to expound on what my last post said a little.

Let's say Jerry Jones pulls off a coup and gets Bill Belichick. I will tell you point blank I consider him one of the 5 best coaches I have ever seen. I will not care what he accomplished in New England. I would care about what he had accomplished here.

If he were to go 0-3 in the post season for us would anyone be celebrating the fact we had him?

That's what I mean about irrelevant what Wade has done before.
 

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Hostile;3240094 said:
Yet I didn't do that. I didn't say anyone was better. I said how is a coach whose teams allowed 90 points in 2 games better. You sound bitter to me.

That because you are reading a tone that is not there then again if that is what you want to think then go ahead.

I just think Wade is never going to get it done here! period
 

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RainMan;3240086 said:
My problem with the coaching argument is that I fear so many subscribe to the "FIRE HIM!!" mentality because it serves as a way for us to feel like someone had to 'pay' for the loss. In reality, I don't think we're at a stage right now where someone must 'pay.'

For me, the decision whether to keep a coach or not is all about whether you have the organizational structure in place to win. If a season-ending loss is a sign your organization is in shambles, as I feared was the case last year, I think you can the coach. But if the structure is sound, I think you keep marching forward.

It's why guys like Jeff Fisher -- despite a 15-year history of PROVING he can't win the big game -- stay employed, and justifiably so IMO. He's a good coach who happens to have not won a Super Bowl, but he gives them a fighting chance every year. Bill Cowher was the same way. I think Andy Reid is, too.

I really think Wade has brought that same sense of organizational sanity here. We're a good team that happened to lose to a better team today in a game that was a one or two-possession game for three quarters. It got out of hand late, but it'd be silly to fire our coach because of an artificially enhanced "blow out."

My two cents.

I don't feel that way about Wade and never have. I will always have a nagging doubt until he proves otherwise. I don't own the team if Jerry brings back Wade so be it; just don't expect me to buy into any hype that this is the 91 Cowboys so far they remind me of the 80's Cowboys under Danny White good but could never get over the hump.
 
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