Stephen A.: Hardy not responsible for Cowboys' atrocity

[tyke1doe]

What? Can't see the trees for the forest.

What does that even mean? Are we having a serious conversation or are we playing games?

 

[tyke1doe]

Anyone can be racist.

He didn't say anything about racism.

Nice try tho.

So you're saying being a racist is unconnected to racism?

How so?

 

[tyke1doe]

He stated that JG only has his job because he is white.

Full Definition of racism
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2: racial prejudice or discrimination

Uh, so how is saying Garrett would be fired if he were black advocating the "inherent superiority" of a particular race?

 

[tyke1doe]

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

See my question above?

 

[tyke1doe]

Let's just say the guy definately isn't colorblind.

Neither are any of us.

 

[JoeKing]

What does that even mean? Are we having a serious conversation or are we playing games?

After numerous replies you finally respond? It is you playing games. You're a smart man with access to the internet. If you want to know the meaning of something I'm sure you know how to look it up. Get back with me when YOU want a serious conversation.

 

[JoeKing]

See my question above?

I answered your question. You read into however you choose.

 

[JoeKing]

Neither are any of us.

Well, I guess that statement from you explains a whole lot. I'm hearing you self identify yourself as a racist.

 

[tyke1doe]

After numerous replies you finally respond? It is you playing games. You're a smart man with access to the internet. If you want to know the meaning of something I'm sure you know how to look it up. Get back with me when YOU want a serious conversation.

Getting defensive, I see.

I asked the question because apparently many people don't know what racism or being a racist is. But to make sure I'm not assuming, I ask questions.

I'm not the one responding can't see the forest from the trees. But I'll take your advice: if you don't want to have a serious conversation, you can stop replying to my posts and I yours.

The issue of racism is not a game to me.

 

[JoeKing]

Getting defensive, I see.

I asked the question because apparently many people don't know what racism or being a racist is. But to make sure I'm not assuming, I ask questions.

I'm not the one responding can't see the forest from the trees. But I'll take your advice: if you don't want to have a serious conversation, you can stop replying to my posts and I yours.

The issue of racism is not a game to me.

Deflecting by calling my reply defensive is a sure sign you know you are on the losing side in this conversation. I've already acknowledeged you are a smart man and you've just confirmed it my trying to disengage from our back and forth.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well, I guess that statement from you explains a whole lot. I'm hearing you self identify yourself as a racist.

I'll say this one last thing and I'm done with you. No, I'm not colorblind because colorblind assumes that color doesn't matter, but it does.

Each of us - in all our beautiful colors/races - comes with a culture, an experience and a tradition that is unique to us. These qualities are often associated with our race.

And one of the beauties of life is enjoying other people's racial identity, understanding how it makes people unique and sharing in their experiences and traditions.

When we attempt to act "colorblind" we are tacitly saying we shouldn't value other people's culture, experiences and traditions, yet we end up defaulting to the dominant culture, acting as if it is "acultural" when it's not.

I appreciate other people's cultures as much as my morality and faith allow.

So, no, I'm not colorblind, and neither is anyone else because we all are shaped from a cultural perspective, and we all reflect that perspective whether we admit it or not.

Now you can continue with your sophomoric interpretation of race, racists and racism.

 

[Craig]

Well, I guess that statement from you explains a whole lot. I'm hearing you self identify yourself as a racist.

This might be the dumbest thing ive read from you.

 

[JoeKing]

I'll say this one last thing and I'm done with you. No, I'm not colorblind because colorblind assumes that color doesn't matter, but it does.

Each of us, and all our beautiful colors, comes with a culture, an experience and a tradition that us unique to us. These qualities are often associated with our race.

And the beauty of life is enjoying other people's racial identity and understanding how it makes people unique.

When we attempt to act "colorblind" we are tacitly saying we shouldn't value other people's culture, experiences and traditions, yet we end up defaulting to the dominant culture, acting as if it is acultural when it's not.

I appreciate other people's cultures as much as my morality and faith allow.

So, no, I'm not colorblind, and neither is anyone else because we all are shaped from a cultural perspective, and we all reflect that perspective whether we admit it or not.

Now you can continue with your sophomoric interpretation of race, racists and racism.

Yet another deflection from the topic at hand. I applaude your embracing culture. But that has nothing to do with the fact that SAS treats folks according to their race. Race should never be a factor in how you treat another.

 

[JoeKing]

This might be the dumbest thing ive read from you.

Hey, he called you a racist too.

 

[tyke1doe]

This might be the dumbest thing ive read from you.

It's sad that people don't really understand what racism is or what constitutes a racist. They think it's some flippant term they can toss out willy nilly and ignore the broader, historical application of what racism is and what a racist actually does. And a man pointing to race as a factor of identification IS NOT an example of being a racist.

It's actually insulting when compared to the ACTUAL application of racism and what a racist does and has done through American and world history.

 

[Dwight]

Um....nah

Good response.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So you're saying being a racist is unconnected to racism?

How so?

Racism is institutional. Being a racist is...well...not.

 

[Jarv]

Uh, so how is saying Garrett would be fired if he were black advocating the "inherent superiority" of a particular race?

Why bring race into it in the first place? Race baiting to increase clicks or viewership. If that's how you and he think...so be it. ..it's a free country.

 

[JoeKing]

It's sad that people don't really understand what racism is or what constitutes a racist. They think it's some flippant term they can toss out willy nilly and ignore the broader, historical application of what racism is and what a racist actually does. And a man pointing to race as a factor of identification IS NOT an example of being a racist.

It's actually insulting when compared to the ACTUAL application of racism and what a racist does and has done through American and world history.

Your feigning of righteous indignation is merely an attempt to deflect from the topic at hand. Grand standing has it's place if it's on point but you my friend are shooting of course.

SAS revealed himself to be a racist when he stated JG only kept his job because he's white. You have yet to directly address this point that's repeatedly been made.

 

[The Natural]

Stephen A's exact words on Garrett was that he was product of a privileged relationship with Jerry, he specifically said there are other white coaches who would be fired given the same track record. To the best of my knowledge he never said this buffoon Jason Garret only kept his job because he is white, and left it at that. If i'm wrong please provide the link to the video where he says that.

Just because someone makes a truthful statement, and it offends you, and makes you uncomfortable, because you are white..does not make the other person a racist.