Stephen A. Smith | Can leader McNabb hear sour notes?

[jksmith269]

Owens' contract said the date he had to apply for free agency and that wasn't the same date under the new rule that was writen after he signed the contract. The only reason why we had to give up anything was because Baltimore couldn't go out and sign another receiver and San Francisco thought they had a second round pick so we gave them a defensive end who they cut after one season.

And TO could save face and stay with the team if he shows up and plays.

Thats BS T.O. tried to blame it on his agent for missing the deadline don't try that BS on us find one article that said the trade wasn't legal you can't only T.O. said it wasn't fair. He over slept or some other crap. The SF to Ravens trade was a legal trade that he got out of by crying and complaining.

 

[Wolverine]

And TO could save face and stay with the team if he shows up and plays.

I do hope he shows up this season. So that way when we take 1 of the 2 games from you this year you wont have the excuse of no T.O. I also would love it for Roy Williams to have a chance to finish him off for good.

 

[jksmith269]

Owens' contract said the date he had to apply for free agency and that wasn't the same date under the new rule that was writen after he signed the contract. The only reason why we had to give up anything was because Baltimore couldn't go out and sign another receiver and San Francisco thought they had a second round pick so we gave them a defensive end who they cut after one season.

And TO could save face and stay with the team if he shows up and plays.

Hows this it does say the date changed due to the CBA but he and his agent both knew the date so that is no excuse. after he misses his deadline the niners tell him to seek a trade so he does the Niners don't like what Philly offers so they trade him to the Ravens Days after the deadline.

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It's hard to imagine how the Terrell Owens situation could get any more bizarre. A few weeks ago Owens was preparing to enter the free agency market having publicly stated his desire to play in Philadelphia. We then learn that either Owens or his agent, David Joseph, have missed the deadline for notifying the league of his desire to void the final three years of his existing contract with the San Francisco 49ers and become a free agent. That deadline date had changed as part of the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the players' union.

When Owens' free agency status never materialized, the 49ers advised him to seek out a trade. Once again, the buzz was that the Eagles were interested in signing him. Then, the news breaks that the 49ers have traded Owens to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick in the upcoming NFL draft.

We later learn that at the time of the trade announcement the Eagles had just worked out terms of a new contract with Owens and were attempting to finalize a trade with the 49ers. When the Eagles learned of the trade they called Owens' agent to find out what happened. Joseph had not yet been advised that his client had been traded to the Ravens.

Apparently, we learn, the 49ers were dissatisfied with the Eagles' offers of a fifth round draft choice plus a player, reported to be Eagles receiver James Thrash. When the Baltimore Ravens offered a second round pick the 49ers made the trade. Whether this was an example of the Eagles not moving fast enough to make a reasonable offer for Owens, we'll never know. It seems that the 49ers had no desire to trade Owens within the NFC, preferring to move him instead to an AFC team.

 

[AJM1613]

Thats BS T.O. tried to blame it on his agent for missing the deadline don't try that BS on us find one article that said the trade wasn't legal you can't only T.O. said it wasn't fair. He over slept or some other crap. The SF to Ravens trade was a legal trade that he got out of by crying and complaining.

All that that article says is that at the time they made the article they had no idea. He may have missed the deadline, but it wasn't a gift from the NFL, the arbitrator would have ruled in favor of Owens and then San Francisco and Baltimore would have gotten nothing.

 

[jksmith269]

All that that article says is that at the time they made the article they had no idea. He may have missed the deadline, but it wasn't a gift from the NFL, the arbitrator would have ruled in favor of Owens and then San Francisco and Baltimore would have gotten nothing.

How could the arbitrator rule for T.O. the Niners didn't break any rules neither did the Ravens a player trade was done fair and Legal. He missed his deadline period. Its the agents and players responsibility to know the deadline it isn't the teams to tell him "if you don't file today then your still under contract for 3 years and we can do what ever we want with you". They aren't his sitters its his job he should know these things....

 

[AJM1613]

How could the arbitrator rule for T.O. the Niners didn't break any rules neither did the Ravens a player trade was done fair and Legal. He missed his deadline period. Its the agents and players responsibility to know the deadline it isn't the teams to tell him "if you don't file today then your still under contract for 3 years and we can do what ever we want with you". They aren't his sitters its his job he should know these things....

San Francisco traded a player that wasn't there's to trade because according to Owens' contract his agent could file for free agency anytime before free agency offically begins so the other date was irrelevant.

 

[jksmith269]

San Francisco traded a player that wasn't there's to trade because according to Owens' contract his agent could file for free agency anytime before free agency offically begins so

***E the CBA would take precedent over the contract period considering a contract has to conform to the CBA. If what you are saying were the case then why didn't the agent go ahead and file the papers? and why did the Eagles give anything to anyone for him. I mean if they were so sure they would win? Because they knew they wouldn't win the case. T.O. Screwed up his agent Screwed up. End of subject..

 

[AJM1613]

***E the CBA would take precedent over the contract period considering a contract has to conform to the CBA. If what you are saying were the case then why didn't the agent go ahead and file the papers? and why did the Eagles give anything to anyone for him. I mean if they were so sure they would win? Because they knew they wouldn't win the case. T.O. Screwed up his agent Screwed up. End of subject..

Than why would the NFL send Owens to Philadelphia?

The reason why the agent didn't file the papers was because he didn't have to. If there's another reason I don't know it because I can't get inside of the guy's head.

The reason why the Eagles gave up a defensive end and a fifth round pick was because that's what they offered to San Francisco originally (it was Thrash and a fifth but San Francisco wanted Whiting instead of Thrash so the Eagles accepted) and they didn't want to screw the two teams that bad.

And how did TO screw any of this up?

 

[jksmith269]

Than why would the NFL send Owens to Philadelphia?

The reason why the agent didn't file the papers was because he didn't have to. If there's another reason I don't know it because I can't get inside of the guy's head.

The reason why the Eagles gave up a defensive end and a fifth round pick was because that's what they offered to San Francisco originally (it was Thrash and a fifth but San Francisco wanted Whiting instead of Thrash so the Eagles accepted) and they didn't want to screw the two teams that bad.

And how did TO screw any of this up?

so why did the Ravens get compensated as well? Didn't they receive something also? T.O. should have known its his life if you or I had that much riding on something like that we would make sure we knew the date and make sure the agent knew the date as well.

 

[AJM1613]

so why did the Ravens get compensated as well? Didn't they receive something also? T.O. should have known its his life if you or I had that much riding on something like that we would make sure we knew the date and make sure the agent knew the date as well.

The Ravens got a fifth round pick, the 49ers got a defensive end who played five games and a sixth round pick as injury compensation (Whiting was hurt when we traded him).

The Ravens got the fifth because they did not have the opportunity to sign any free agents and they let Marcus Robinson go to Minnesota.

TO did know the date and filed the paper work on time, according to his contract.

 

[jksmith269]

The Ravens got a fifth round pick, the 49ers got a defensive end who played five games and a sixth round pick as injury compensation (Whiting was hurt when we traded him).

The Ravens got the fifth because they did not have the opportunity to sign any free agents and they let Marcus Robinson go to Minnesota.

TO did know the date and filed the paper work on time, according to his contract.

Owens, who spent eight sometimes controversial seasons with San Francisco, was supposed to become a free agent March 3. But his agent, David Joseph, failed to file papers voiding the final years of his contract by a Feb. 21 deadline.

The 49ers then dealt the four-time Pro Bowl receiver to the Ravens on March 4, after Owens had agreed to a contract with the Eagles that reportedly included a $10 million signing bonus.

Now the Eagles gave up a player and pick because if T.O. won he would have been a FA and could have went elsewhere for more and if he lost then he had to go to Baltimore. so they did what they thought was best to get T.O. Now the Niners They waited almost two weeks before dealing him. He missed the deadline period the CBA takes precedent to any contract considering the Players union and the NFL both have to agree to it. and for you to say the aribatrator would go one way or another is idiotic there is no way to know what he was going to do. More than likely the trade would have stood because the Niners acted in accord with the CBA and his agent failed to file the papers in accord with the CBA.

http://www.nestofdeath.com/season/2004/news/kearse/TO3wayDeal.html

 

[Waffle]

And a team player gets tagged "a company man". :

Is Owens a greater talent than McNabb? Of course. He is the premier receiver in the game today. McNabb is nowhere near Owens' level of dominance.

But TO is also arguably the best (worst) example of the narcissitic, self-indulgent, ego-ridden punk in sports today.

Last offseason, TO was proclaiming how badly he wanted to play with his good buddy McNabb. But the Garcia Bug has bitten again - this jerk seems congenitally unable to stop building himself up, and tearing down everything around him that doesn't reflect his own inflated sense of self importance.

He is not a typical individualistic, just-give-me-the-ball receiver.

He is one sick puppy, imo. It's not just about the money he may or may not deserve.. It's about this misfit's fundamental inability to cooperate.

Screw him.

And I hope Lurie and Reid do.

I love it, B!!! I echo your "Screw Him" sentiment.

I first thought he was an arrogant jerk way back when he disrespected the "Star." He has only amplified his "jerkedness" since then. The only way he'll ever be happy is if he could somehow play both QB AND WR...throwing the ball to himself every play. I'm sure he'd also want to get paid QB AND WR money as well. What a loser!

 

[AJM1613]

Did anyone hear Irvin on Dan Patrick's show on ESPN radio? He said he talked to Owens yesterday (Sunday) and he said thatthat Donovan had called him and T.O. was getting ready to call him back...

Said T.O. didn't mean anything about McNabb being tired, was more or less defending himself for staying in shape, coming back, and performing in the Super Bowl.

He (Irvin) knocked Stephen A. Smith's article about the relationship between T.O. and McNabb pretty good...doesn't believe that the on-field chemisty is damaged.

Irvin told T.O. to ignore the media and realize how great of an opportunity he and Donovan have a chance to be the best combo in the league.

Irvin said as a player, this stuff happens and the players understand it was a business.

Would think you would "enjoy" that coming from one of your own.

 

[Hostile]

Did anyone hear Irvin on Dan Patrick's show on ESPN radio? He said he talked to Owens yesterday (Sunday) and he said thatthat Donovan had called him and T.O. was getting ready to call him back...

Said T.O. didn't mean anything about McNabb being tired, was more or less defending himself for staying in shape, coming back, and performing in the Super Bowl.

He (Irvin) knocked Stephen A. Smith's article about the relationship between T.O. and McNabb pretty good...doesn't believe that the on-field chemisty is damaged.

Irvin told T.O. to ignore the media and realize how great of an opportunity he and Donovan have a chance to be the best combo in the league.

Irvin said as a player, this stuff happens and the players understand it was a business.

Would think you would "enjoy" that coming from one of your own.

Auntie Em, Auntie Em, it's a twister! It's a twister!!!!

 

[Merlin]

One thing I noticed and this board and the Eagles':

The least understandable posters think McNabb's overrated.

And this Eagles team is a better team than the one in the early nineties, and they went 10-6, 11-5, 8-8, 7-9 with one of the worst coaches in NFL history.

Great QB's dont have a history of choking in the big games. This guy ran out of steam in the Superbowl. No excuse for that with the money he is being paid. Or maybe he just chokes in the big games and gives it the old heave-ho. uke: :iggles:

Funny that none of the Eagle's receivers have got McChunky's back on this or anything else. That speaks volumes.

TO may be a cancer but what he did by coming back and playing in the Superbowl was dam near a miracle. Selfish players dont usually do stuff like that but he did and they dam near won the brass ring if McChunky havent run out of gas. The Eagles are not Superbowl contenders without him. Pay him or you will regret it later.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

Did anyone hear Irvin on Dan Patrick's show on ESPN radio? He said he talked to Owens yesterday (Sunday) and he said thatthat Donovan had called him and T.O. was getting ready to call him back...

Said T.O. didn't mean anything about McNabb being tired, was more or less defending himself for staying in shape, coming back, and performing in the Super Bowl.

He (Irvin) knocked Stephen A. Smith's article about the relationship between T.O. and McNabb pretty good...doesn't believe that the on-field chemisty is damaged.

Irvin told T.O. to ignore the media and realize how great of an opportunity he and Donovan have a chance to be the best combo in the league.

Irvin said as a player, this stuff happens and the players understand it was a business.

Would think you would "enjoy" that coming from one of your own.

hahahaha....THIS is rich.

an iggles fan using michael irvin as their argument backup.

typical philly fan....they love ya when it suits them.

 

[AJM1613]

hahahaha....THIS is rich.

an iggles fan using michael irvin as their argument backup.

typical philly fan....they love ya when it suits them.

I have nothing wrong with Irvin without the star.

 

[Wolverine]

Would think you would "enjoy" that coming from one of your own.

Maybe you should enjoy what came from 2 of your own in what Freddie Mitchell and T.O. had to say about McNabb.

Now the the one of our own that you should really listen to is when Aikman totally ripped McNabb apart in a game. Eagle fans couldnt deal with the truth Aikman said.

 

[AJM1613]

Auntie Em, Auntie Em, it's a twister! It's a twister!!!!

I don't understand why you are accusing me of spinning this, remember, I wouldn't mind trading Owens because I don't think he is here for more than one more season. I'm just saying what someone said Irvin said after he talked to Owens (yes I did get confirmation from another source that he did in fact say that).

 

[Hostile]

I don't understand why you are accusing me of spinning this, remember, I wouldn't mind trading Owens because I don't think he is here for more than one more season. I'm just saying what someone said Irvin said after he talked to Owens (yes I did get confirmation from another source that he did in fact say that).

Oh, I don't know. Perhaps it's that you are constantly trying to convince everyone that there might be some kind of positive spin to this.