Stephen Gilmore pick

[Ken]

So, he threw similar plays where Gallup was falling down & the defender was standing where the receiver was intended to be and they worked out great?

I gave option B in my response. They could have called defensive holding without the ball being thrown. So, now that terminology is cleaned up.

Dak threw the ball before he fell.

If he didn't and wasn't interfered with, it would have looked like last week's catches.

 

[Echospacing]

Gallup is moderately physical at 6'1" 200 lbs, but as we have seen he can be manhandled. Gilmore is similar in size. Gilmore obviously studied the tapes well and new what the route was.
What it all means is that we are going to see more passes to the TE and RB as Gallup gets best corner and CD doubled as well as picks when the ball gets forced. Probably won't see any big gainers except for maybe Pollard. That's what teams did to KC last year. Take Hill and Kelce out of it and make the rest of the gang beat you thru play calling. Defense, KM and the run game better be up to it or it will be an early exit from the playoffs. Every week I see head scratcher throws from QBs around the league. Dak isn't unique in his $$$ peer group for doing this.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Right before the interception this thought ran through my head. "Dak is OK ..... right up until the moment he isn't". I don't know a better way to describe his play.

This one and a few more interceptions that have been widely debated are more decision making than accuracy for me. You see where the defenders are. Don't throw it directly to them.

Anytime the ball is thrown to a receiver that is not in view of the TV screen and the camera has to follow the ball I get the stomach bubbles.

His decision making has never been great, but he just doesn't have the arm talent to complete some of the passes he insists on attempting.

 

[Doomsday101]

That is why I say Dak graded about a D during the game except red zone where he graded an A. That evens out to an ok game result wise but if he played a B game everywhere else we are up by 14 instead of 2 at the end of the 3rd!

This game I did not feel Dak played his best yet they walk away with a big win. I will say Dak had some big 3rd down conversions in the game that helped this team get down the field into the redzone to score.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Pass interference all the way. Everyone saw it and knows it. Let's stop with the baloney talk of blaming it elsewhere. Clearly pass interference. That was all on the officials once again.

 

[MarcusRock]

Not with Stephen Gilmore on him but regardless I disagree.

Those plays last week put Gallup in a position to attack the ball.

Just because a catch is contested doesn’t make it the same other contested catches. Take the 2nd Gallup TD, great throw and great decision not because Gallup caught it or was wide open. It’s because Gallup clearly had leverage and the opportunity to attack a well thrown ball in the air. Gallup had control, on the Gilmore one, it was the reverse, given their respective positions, Gilmore had control.

Leverage is the key word. Gilmore had a ton of it and Gallup couldn't work around it except for the dinky head fake Gilmore ignored and trying to swim move while running right into him. Heck, I'm not so sure Gallup didn't flop to try to draw the flag because he couldn't win the battle.

 

[RonWashington]

I’m as impatient as the next fan to get another SB parade going in big D . Matt Stafford been Around since Ford had a Mustang for Steve McQueen in Bullit never won a darn thing in Detroit then one yr in LA the SB ring gets a fitting . Takes more then the QB to win a SB gents . This squad might be real close even if it’s a wildcard .

 

[Zman5]

This was roughly 5 yards from the LOS, so yes.

So yanking on the facemask is legal if it's done beyond 5 yards from the LOS? Good to know. LOL

 

[McKDaddy]

Dak threw the ball before he fell. I haven't gone back and rewatched this but during the game I thought Dak was sliding to his left and had not released the ball until Gallup was already falling. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

If he didn't and wasn't interfered with, it would have looked like last week's catches.

When Gilmore took the outside position that he did, I simply don't see anything Gallup could have done to make the intended route work. As a QB, I simply come off that route when I see that coverage. k

 

[Creeper]

This is either illegal contact or pass interference if the ball is in the air. Gilmore literally cuts off Gallup's route and uses both hands as if he is blocking him. It is definitely not incidental contact and Gilmore was not making a play on the ball at that moment. Gilmore turned into Gallup and the ball was thrown behind him. The refs were letting them play but this was absolutely a penalty. If Gilmore was facing teh QB and just stuck his arm out to feel where Gallup was going it would have been a clean play, but he he turned into Gallup and cut off his path to the ball.

 

[cmoney23]

Bruh, the WR falls down trying to get back to the ball.

This one is 100% on Dak.

(I say this all as a Dak supporter)

I take this comment back. I fudged up. (I know, you won't hear that much online)

I was thinking of the outbreaking route that was almost the INT. I'm not sure how I got this mixed up. My fault.

 

[cmoney23]

Dak released the ball pre receiver going to the plush carpet . If a QB waits for the “ open receiver “ he’s eating the bottom of a sack , not the kind he advertises for Tom Thumb either.

I take my comment back. I fudged up. (I know, you won't hear that much online)

I was thinking of the outbreaking route that was almost the INT. I'm not sure how I got this mixed up. My fault.

 

[cmoney23]

The ball was already in the air when Gallup made his cut. These are timing plays.

I take this comment back. I fudged up. (I know, you won't hear that much online)

I was thinking of the outbreaking route that was almost the INT. I'm not sure how I got this mixed up. My fault.

 

[Hoofbite]

I think it was just a great play by Gilmore. He isn't obligated to move out of the way to let Gallup have an attempt on the ball. He basically boxed Gallup out and made the play himself.

 

[RonWashington]

No problem . I hear posters say Dak shouldn’t take shots one on one because Gilmore is the CB ? Whoa . If KM goes into that shell he gets to go blue carpet straight to Boise cascade .

 

[RonWashington]

I think it was just a great play by Gilmore. He isn't obligated to move out of the way to let Gallup have an attempt on the ball. He basically boxed Gallup out and made the play himself.

Exactly why Gilmore opposite Diggs would have been pleasant to watch .

 

[cmoney23]

I take this comment back. I fudged up. (I know, you won't hear that much online)

I was thinking of the outbreaking route that was almost the INT. I'm not sure how I got this mixed up. My fault.

I was thinking of the play at the 9:22 mark in this video.

 

[Nova]

So yanking on the facemask is legal if it's done beyond 5 yards from the LOS? Good to know. LOL

That's what you think happened?

In a freeze frame, sure it can look more egregious than it was. In real time, there is no control or twisting on the facemask to call it a facemask penalty.

And it's not hands to the face because Gilmore is also not reaching outside of Gallup's frame up at his face. In fact, Gilmore's arms extend straight out, maybe even slightly down. The only reason he gets Gallup's mask is because Gallup's chin is tucked over his knee as he should be doing to combat the expected press.

Gilmore is just getting his bump in within the 5 yards, and his hand happens to get Gallup's mask.

 

[Zman5]

That's what you think happened?

In a freeze frame, sure it can look more egregious than it was. In real time, there is no control or twisting on the facemask to call it a facemask penalty.

And it's not hands to the face because Gilmore is also not reaching outside of Gallup's frame up at his face. In fact, Gilmore's arms extend straight out, maybe even slightly down. The only reason he gets Gallup's mask is because Gallup's chin is tucked over his knee as he should be doing to combat the expected press.

Gilmore is just getting his bump in within the 5 yards, and his hand happens to get Gallup's mask.

I've looked at it multiple times in slowmo and you are blind if you think there was no twisting on the facemask. Just look at MG's head position and you can tell his head has been yanked.

 

[MarcusRock]

I've looked at it multiple times in slowmo and you are blind if you think there was no twisting on the facemask. Just look at MG's head position and you can tell his head has been yanked.

Your key word is slowmo. In real speed, it's a within 5 yard jam that happened to catch the facemask. It wasn't a control and turn or other. Even in the facemask rule, you are allowed to grasp but have to let go immediately and not "control the opponent." A yank would be controlling in order to keep up, etc. Here, a jam caught the facemask as a clear incidental. Not a foul.