Stephen Jones says Cowboys have deepest roster in team’s history

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ANOTHER idiot statement from the clown show.

Interesting to see the bootlickers at it again.

There are only two players on this team that look like HOF prospects: Parsons and Martin.

ON the 90's teams just how many?

We start with the triplets and then go to the line and then the front 7 and show me where there are those pm this team that would start in their place.

Depth is nice but HOF starters get you rings. A deep team of good to very good tends to NOT WIN SBs.
 

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And then there are the teams in the 70's early and late. Tell me that this team is deeper than either of the SB winning teams of 71 and 77.
 
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In his defense, he was probably too young to remember our 90s super bowl teams.
 
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plasticman said:
You reach more than Jerry Jones in the second round of a draft.
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You make up the realities. The team was established on the wall players of the offensive line...but I don't instead explain it away.

1991 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner, DC Dave Wannstedt

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Kevin Gogan
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Nate Newton *(Erik Williams rookie)

1992 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Dave Wannstedt { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Eric Williams

1993 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Butch Davis {SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Kevin Gogan
RT Eric Williams

1994 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Butch Davis

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Derek Kennard
RT Larry Allen *(rookie)

1995 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Dave Campo { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Ray Donaldson
RG Larry Allen
RT Eric Williams

Now, for five straight years the starting offensive line, 1991-1995, changed.

Also, except for 1991-1992...so did the coordinator pairs change up as well.
 
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JonesBoys said:
I guess he was too young for the 92-93 team? I mean having Jimmy Smith on the practice squad for god sakes. O-line and d-line were lights years deeper than this years team.
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Another one. You do realize Stephen is old right?
 
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CCBoy said:
You make up the realities. The team was established on the wall players of the offensive line...but I don't instead explain it away.

1991 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner, DC Dave Wannstedt

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Kevin Gogan
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Nate Newton *(Erik Williams rookie)

1992 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Dave Wannstedt { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Eric Williams

1993 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Butch Davis {SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Kevin Gogan
RT Eric Williams

1994 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Butch Davis

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Derek Kennard
RT Larry Allen *(rookie)

1995 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Dave Campo { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Ray Donaldson
RG Larry Allen
RT Eric Williams

Now, for five straight years the starting offensive line, 1991-1995, changed.

Also, except for 1991-1992...so did the coordinator pairs change up as well.
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Mark Tuinei

Dallas:

1983 DT
1984 DT
1985 C
1986-1997 OT

Pro Bowl: 1994 and 1995






John Gesek

Dallas
1990-1993 G





Kevin Gogan

Dallas
1987-1989 OT
1990-1993 OG

3 Pro Bowls after leaving the Cowboys





Nate Newton

Dallas
1986-1999

Pro Bowls: 1992-1996, 1998




Mark Stepnoski

Dallas
1989-1994
1999-2001

Pro Bowls 1992-1996



Erik Williams

Dallas
1991-2001

Pro Bowls 1993, 1996, 1997, 1999




Larry Allen

Dallas
1994-2005

Pro Bowls 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006





Nate Newton ...From 1992 to 1995, together with Erik Williams, Mark Tuinei, Mark Stepnoski, John Gesek and Kevin Gogan, he was part of some of the best offensive lines to play in NFL history, known as “The Great Wall of Dallas”.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_yl...+1992+dallas+cowboys&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t&fp=1
 
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When Stephen Jones was handed his lofty NFL personnel titles in 1996, he was as qualified as me. But he was born Jerry's son, and I was not.

That didn't make him any wiser, it just afforded him opportunity. Stephen Jones is a poster child for failure, yet he has suffered no consequence.
 
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Jake said:
When Stephen Jones was handed his lofty NFL personnel titles in 1996, he was as qualified as me. But he was born Jerry's son, and I was not.

That didn't make him any wiser, it just afforded him opportunity. Stephen Jones is a poster child for failure, yet he has suffered no consequence.
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That probably is a winner at a rock concert before those in attendance are trampled to death..Chicago had a great concert in Kingsville when they were popular. John Denver had a great concert in Indianapolis...and we respected the Cowboys beyond non-stop insult and vanity.
 
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Stephen didn't say this Cowboys team was the deepest. "...as deep as" doesn't mean "deepest."

Also, while the Cowboys may be "just as deep as" those Cowboys Super Bowl teams from the 90's, it still doesn't mean this team is "just as talented as" those teams. The team may be extremely deep, but the top level players may not be as talented.
  • Dak is not equal to Troy.
  • Tony Pollard is not equal to Emmitt.
  • CeeDee Lamb is not equal to to Michael Irvin.
  • Tyler Smith is not equal to Larry Allen, or even Nate Newton.
  • Terence Steele is not equal to Erik Williams.
  • Jake Ferguson is not equal to Jay Novacek.
  • Hunter Leupke, or whomever may block for Tony is not equal to Moose Johnston
  • Tyler Biadasz is not equal to Mark Stepnoski
  • Johnathan Hankins and Mazi Smith are not equal to Russell Maryland and Tony Casillas.
  • Trevon Diggs is not equal to Deion Sanders
  • Jayron Kearse is not equal to James Washington
  • Malik Hooker is not equal to Thomas Everett
  • DeMarcus Lawrence is not equal to Tony Tolbert
  • It remains to be seen if Micah Parsons is equal to or better than Charles Haley. Micah has never had a 5-sack game like Haley had against the Steelers.
  • Are Damone Clark and Leighton Vander Esch as talented as Robert Jones and Ken Norton, Jr.?
  • Donovan Wilson is not as talented as Darren Woodson
Stephen may well be correct that this team is "as deep as" those 90's teams. Stephen did NOT say that this team is "just as talented as" those teams. Don't put words into his mouth that he didn't actually say. Even if this team is "just as deep as" those teams, how many of today's starters could start for the teams of the 90's? Zack Martin, Micah Parsons, CeeDee Lamb in place of Alvin Harper, Tyron Smith in place of Mark Tuinei, Gilmore in place of Larry Brown.
 
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plasticman said:
You watched every game in the 90's but can't seem to remember the amount of depth the Cowboys had?

The offensive line? The safeties? The D-line? The linebackers?

You actually need me to list these players? That team won three Super Bowls but you, a Cowboys fan, can't seem to remember half the players on that team? I watched every game thirty years ago just as you claim you did and I remember them, of course I do. I remember the starting lineup of the 1971 team.

That's how you see it? How is that possible if you can't even remember it.

No, I'm not going to make you a list. Go find it yourself, it might do you some good to be reminded just how special that team was from top to bottom. I'm truly surprised that you actually need to.

The Cowboys incredible depth on that team was a matter of record. I'm totally shocked that this would be challenged.....by a Cowboys fan, no less!
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I didn't say they didn't have any depth,

we're talking about Jerry's team now, compared to then he's saying he believes they have more depth and a lot of positions and I tend to agree... because when you go back and look at all the frontline starters we had on those 90s teams they didn't have many good backups at all, we had some very good players like Michael Irvin but Alvin Harper is not better than Michael Gallup or Brandon cooks they may be on par these were starters and now we're gonna talk about the depth where was the depth at wide receiver running back Amen really quarterback or really across the board at free safety corner I'm talking about depth now the rotational defensive line yes in the 90s we had a great second line but we're building that right now here.

they literally even like I said at corner had very solid good players but nothing behind them that safety as well you think James Washington and whatnot was a great free safety and is better than Malik hooker, yet we're three deep at safety right now, that if you take out Darren Woodson who was a hybrid linebacker who was behind him?? who was the depth behind all those players outside of a rotational defensive line which we're working on right now on this team.

I'm saying that across the board the 90s teams did not have much depth and it was a larger drop off between their ones and twos we're comparing this team this year to some of the 90s teams depth and that's what we're talking about I didn't say they didn't have any depth I'm saying we're overrating the depth that we did have considering the salary cap and free agency was different back then..

I think what I'm saying and what Jerry really meant is he thinks this is the deepest team he's had since then not that it's the best but if you look at it the starters and then you look at their backups I think we do have as much depth as they did on some of those 90s teams.. And I'm all asking the fans here who disagree to list all the backups at all the positions that you think are better than all the backups at the positions we have right now coming into 2023??

Of course the 90s teams were better on a whole mainly because of the coaching staff and the fact that they finally got a team together why they were young and they were able to take off the difference between that team and this team is we're not young but I think we finally do have the pieces at just about every position and the depth outside of figuring out who's gonna be the swing tackle and guards on offensive line I think this might be one of the better teams we've had since 95.. We won't know until the records prove it out and hopefully we get to an NFC championship game but I think that's the point we're missing no one here is listing all the great backups across the board from the 90s teams but from what I remember I can see where Jerry has a point that at least we're on par with those teams say from around 1995..
 
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