Stephen Jones says Cowboys have deepest roster in team’s history

[JonesBoys]

Another one. You do realize Stephen is old right?

Yes I was being facetious, it's not that big of a deal really.

 

[tyke1doe]

Except at quarterback (and this is not to target Dak) and DT.

The 90s teams had Aikman as starter and Beuerlin and Kosar at back up at one point or another.
Beuerlin helped lead Dallas to an on-the-road playoff victory against the Bears and Kosar lead the Cowboys to a NFC Championship win.
Does anyone have confidence that Dak, Rush and Grier could duplicate the abovementioned's success?

Then at DT, we had Russell Maryland, Leon Lett, Chad Hennings, Tony Casillas, Jimmie Jones, etc., all who contributed greatly in clogging up the middle of the defense.

We are looking good, especially on defense, but I wouldn't say we rival the Super Bowl team rosters.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Offense is razor thin other than at WR and QB because of Rush.

Defense was looking deep until Overshown got hurt and Sam got arrested. Now LB is a concern and DE could get interesting if there’s a suspension.

 

[blueblood70]

Offense is razor thin other than at WR and QB because of Rush.

Defense was looking deep until Overshown got hurt and Sam got arrested. Now LB is a concern and DE could get interesting if there’s a suspension. It

first of all

the legal system could take six months to a year to workout, then the league has to make a decision and that usually takes a total of a year..

so, Sam Williams will probably play this year we'll worry about that next year and Overshown should be back. And it's highly unlikely he gets suspended over THC with his technically weed which is technically legal in the NFL the firearm in Texas is technically legal so it depends on what the legal system does which won't be much probably turned out to be a misdemeanor with probation and this is his first technical offense he's not on any program I doubt he gets much from it...

Oh and on a side note I think Isaiah land might be able to fill in there... It's definitely a possibility whether it's this year or next year he has a little something

 

[Brax]

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Stephen Jones says Cowboys have deepest roster in team’s history​

Originally posted on Pro Talk | By Nick Geddes | Last updated 8/22/23


The Dallas Cowboys are a supremely talented bunch, with aspirations of hoisting their first Lombardi Trophy since 1996.

And if you take it from team executive vice president Stephen Jones, the 2023 version of the Cowboys just may be the deepest roster the franchise has ever assembled. Yes, that would include the Cowboys of the 90s, which won three Super Bowls led by Pro Football Hall of Famers Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin.

“I think this is as deep a team as we’ve ever had,” Jones said Tuesday, via Jon Machota of The Athletic. “There’s no question it’s going to be the hardest 53 cut that we’ve had in years and years.”

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...est_roster_in_teams_history/s1_17236_39163627

The kiss of death to this season. Wish he would keep his mouth shut. Stevie doesn’t know what a deep roster is, I think he’s drinking too much secret sauce.

 

[CCBoy]

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The kiss of death to this season. Wish he would keep his mouth shut. Stevie doesn’t know what a deep roster is, I think he’s drinking too much secret sauce.

The Cowboys are doing a pretty good job of retaining very good talent and staying within the growing salary cap levels now, actually.

 

[Brax]

The Cowboys are doing a pretty good job of retaining very good talent and staying within the growing salary cap levels now, actually.

Only time will tell the results but this isn’t close to the deepest roster. Glad someone is happy with rosters that go nowhere but yes they be paper champions every year according to Stevie and Jerry. All this “talent” yet again but history shows it’s not paper talent it’s playing talent and that has yet to be proven.

 

[CCBoy]

Only time will tell the results but this isn’t close to the deepest roster. Glad someone is happy with rosters that go nowhere but yes they be paper champions every year according to Stevie and Jerry. All this “talent” yet again but history shows it’s not paper talent it’s playing talent and that has yet to be proven.

In today's NFL maintaining this current group of strong players actually is pretty top shelf and a very strong move...C'mon, get real a little now!

 

[Vtwin]

If you squint just a bit you can interpret SJ's comments as to mean, 'We've done our job. It's now on Dak and Mike to bring it home'.

 

[Momanpr100]

I have a wife and you are insultive....

Jerry loves my wife because she's the one who buys me Cowboys stuff lol

 

[Kingofholland]

I doubt its deeper than the 90s teams before free agent poaching, but there are many units you look at that could be as deep if not better.

Just dont let the hype go to the players heads, they still have a lot to prove.

 

[CCBoy]

I doubt its deeper than the 90s teams before free agent poaching, but there are many units you look at that could be as deep if not better.

Just dont let the hype go to the players heads, they still have a lot to prove.

Naw, place the burden of tradition fully onto the player's shoulders now...

 

[plasticman]

I didn't say they didn't have any depth,

we're talking about Jerry's team now, compared to then he's saying he believes they have more depth and a lot of positions and I tend to agree... because when you go back and look at all the frontline starters we had on those 90s teams they didn't have many good backups at all, we had some very good players like Michael Irvin but Alvin Harper is not better than Michael Gallup or Brandon cooks they may be on par these were starters and now we're gonna talk about the depth where was the depth at wide receiver running back Amen really quarterback or really across the board at free safety corner I'm talking about depth now the rotational defensive line yes in the 90s we had a great second line but we're building that right now here.

they literally even like I said at corner had very solid good players but nothing behind them that safety as well you think James Washington and whatnot was a great free safety and is better than Malik hooker, yet we're three deep at safety right now, that if you take out Darren Woodson who was a hybrid linebacker who was behind him?? who was the depth behind all those players outside of a rotational defensive line which we're working on right now on this team.

I'm saying that across the board the 90s teams did not have much depth and it was a larger drop off between their ones and twos we're comparing this team this year to some of the 90s teams depth and that's what we're talking about I didn't say they didn't have any depth I'm saying we're overrating the depth that we did have considering the salary cap and free agency was different back then..

I think what I'm saying and what Jerry really meant is he thinks this is the deepest team he's had since then not that it's the best but if you look at it the starters and then you look at their backups I think we do have as much depth as they did on some of those 90s teams.. And I'm all asking the fans here who disagree to list all the backups at all the positions that you think are better than all the backups at the positions we have right now coming into 2023??

Of course the 90s teams were better on a whole mainly because of the coaching staff and the fact that they finally got a team together why they were young and they were able to take off the difference between that team and this team is we're not young but I think we finally do have the pieces at just about every position and the depth outside of figuring out who's gonna be the swing tackle and guards on offensive line I think this might be one of the better teams we've had since 95.. We won't know until the records prove it out and hopefully we get to an NFC championship game but I think that's the point we're missing no one here is listing all the great backups across the board from the 90s teams but from what I remember I can see where Jerry has a point that at least we're on par with those teams say from around 1995..

Which backups today compare favorably to the backups for the Cowboys in the early 90's, many who went on to multiple Pro Bowl seasons? Please specify because I am having tremendous difficulty locating them.

Looking at the 1994 roster:

Troy Aikman is backed up by multi-year starter Rodney Peete

Emmitt Smith is backed up by Blair Thomas, the #2 overall pick in 1990

Nate Newton is backed up by Ron Stone who went on to earn 3 Pro Bowls with other teams. They are both backed up by Derrick Kennard, a former 7 year starter.

Erik Williams was backed up by a rookie named Larry Allen, enough said.

John Gesek is backed up by Kevin Gogan who went on to earn 3 Pro Bowls with other teams.

Safeties Darren Woodsen and Thomas Everett are backed up by Dave Thomas and Brock Marion, who went on to earn 3 Pro Bowls with other teams. They, in turn, are backed up by James Washington, candidate for SB MVP the previous season and Bill Bates, a pro Bowl special teamer. Behind them is Kenny "the Shark" Gant.

DE's Tony Tolbert and Charles Haley are backed up by Jim Jeffcoat, an 8 year starter and former 1st round pick, as well as Leon Lett, a future starter.

The DT's, Russel Maryland and Tony Cassiles, both top 5 overall draft picks, are backed up by 3rd round pick Jimmy Jones and future starter Chad Hennings.

MLB Ken Norton is backed up by 1st round draft pick and future starter, Robert Jones

LB Dixon Edwards is backed up by 3rd round draft pick and future starter Godfrey Miles

LB Darrin Smith is backed up by 5th round pick Darrick Brownlow

Irvin and Harper, both 1st round picks, were backed up by 2nd round pick and future SB starter Kevin Williams.

And for the four years 1992 through 1995, the 1994 season was the only one in which they DIDN'T go to the Super Bowl. The 1992 and 1993 rosters were just as amazing.

They included:

Steve Beuerlein and former Pro Bowler Bernie Kosar as Aikman's backups

Multiple Pro Bowler WR Jimmy Smith, still the all time receiving leader for the Jacksonville Jaguars, as a backup.

A safety squad in which future Pro Bowlers Bill Bates and Darren Woodsen were the backups.

Starting CB's Isaac Holt and Kevin Smith backed up by future SB MVP Larry Brown.

Even when their freakin' kicker Lin Elliott, was injured after two games in 1993, the Cowboys brought in 12 year veteran and former Pro Bowler Eddie Murray.

On what level of reality is this current squad deeper in talent then the early 90's dynasty? Who are these future Pro Bowl, All- Pro, HOF backups that you are speaking of?















The backup for Emmitt Smith in eh

 

[plasticman]

You make up the realities. The team was established on the wall players of the offensive line...but I don't instead explain it away.

1991 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner, DC Dave Wannstedt

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Kevin Gogan
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Nate Newton *(Erik Williams rookie)

1992 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Dave Wannstedt { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG John Gesek
RT Eric Williams

1993 Coaches: Jimmy Johnson, OC Norv Turner DC Butch Davis {SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Kevin Gogan
RT Eric Williams

1994 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Butch Davis

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Mark Stepnoski
RG Derek Kennard
RT Larry Allen *(rookie)

1995 Coaches: Barry Switzer, OC Ernie Zampese DC Dave Campo { SUPER BOWL}

LT Mark Tuinei
LG Nate Newton
C Ray Donaldson
RG Larry Allen
RT Eric Williams

Now, for five straight years the starting offensive line, 1991-1995, changed.

Also, except for 1991-1992...so did the coordinator pairs change up as well.

Depth.....DEPTH!

That's what we are talking about.

.....Not one mention of the actual backups, the topic of discussion.

 

[gtb1943]

In today's NFL maintaining this current group of strong players actually is pretty top shelf and a very strong move...C'mon, get real a little now!

I will get real when the team WINS more than a participation trophy

 

[CCBoy]

Depth.....DEPTH!

That's what we are talking about.

.....Not one mention of the actual backups, the topic of discussion.

Wow, impressive....30 second retention levels. And no application.

THE DEPTH changed when the STARTERS CHANGED as well...and that changed every season and wasn't the same except for three players...now in a discussion, SMART GUY, for a DISCUSSION, who were they? GET BACK TO ME, smart nice guy!

They are what dominate an informed view as is their control. In a discussion, that is what was presented, smart guy.

I care less if you care to open the discussion further...I can match insult with any blowhart if that is preferred. Ye old standard bearer...

 

[gtb1943]

Wow, impressive....30 second retention levels. And no application.

THE DEPTH changed when the STARTERS CHANGED as well...and that changed every season and wasn't the same except for three players...now in a discussion, SMART GUY, for a DISCUSSION, who were they? GET BACK TO ME, smart nice guy!

They are what dominate an informed view as is their control. In a discussion, that is what was presented, smart guy.

I care less if you care to open the discussion further...I can match insult with any blowhart if that is preferred. Ye old standard bearer...

I have noticed that those that call someone a smart guy are usually pretty stupid

 

[plasticman]

Wow, impressive....30 second retention levels. And no application.

THE DEPTH changed when the STARTERS CHANGED as well...and that changed every season and wasn't the same except for three players...now in a discussion, SMART GUY, for a DISCUSSION, who were they? GET BACK TO ME, smart nice guy!

They are what dominate an informed view as is their control. In a discussion, that is what was presented, smart guy.

I care less if you care to open the discussion further...I can match insult with any blowhart if that is preferred. Ye old standard bearer...

Just read the previous response to the same question by another poster. I answered in detail with actual names, something you refuse to do.

Obviously, there are going to be annual changes to the roster. I picked the 1994 roster as an example of their depth.

Please notice also, I have refrained from sarcastic comments about your intelligence or methodology. It's been my experience that when one resorts to these, it's an indirect method of capitulation. I suppose, at this point, i should just run out the clock and take a knee.

Okay, I admit that was a little taunting....sorry 'bout that.

 

[TNCowboy]

The depth on the defensive side in '92 and '93 was nuts. We were stacked. We also had great backup QBs. We didn't have much depth at the skill players, but the fact is, Emmmit and Irvin never got hurt during those years. Irvin had 7 of 8 seasons in his prime where he didn't miss a game, and Emmitt missed only 3 games in the 1990s because of injury.

We may never have a group of players like that ever again. 6 HOFers on the '95 team.

 

[CCBoy]

Just read the previous response to the same question by another poster. I answered in detail with actual names, something you refuse to do.

Obviously, there are going to be annual changes to the roster. I picked the 1994 roster as an example of their depth.

Please notice also, I have refrained from sarcastic comments about your intelligence or methodology. It's been my experience that when one resorts to these, it's an indirect method of capitulation. I suppose, at this point, i should just run out the clock and take a knee.

Okay, I admit that was a little taunting....sorry 'bout that.

I did read your other posting, you missed in when cross applied previously with me.

I still hold you to the standard of an informed fan and appreciate. One does NOT get 3rd swings...although.