Stephen Jones says the 1 priority in the offseason is to find a backup Qb

[Wood]

this is more than finding a backup QB because if Romo can't stay healthy then we are talking about your back-up QB being your starter indefinitely. This is why now is time to draft QB early. I am ok with it happening in 2nd round if you have stud CB sitting there in 1st round.

 

[DandyDon52]

I bet this makes cassel and kellen feel good !!!! lol
Always good to say things like this before season is even over !! What a bozo.

my question is will they look for one on the party bus ??

 

[erod]

Are these your stats or actual stats? I would think that QB's drafted late in the draft year in and year out will, more often than not, bust. So what? So do many players drafted late. Go look at our recent drafts and you'll find very few players still on the roster. Now if you want to tell me that only 1 out of 25 QB's drafted in the 1st round are worth anything, then we can talk. That's an interesting stat. But I really think you're just talking out your ***.

QBs drafted top three rounds last eight years:

2008: Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Kevin O'Connell
2009: Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy
2011: Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Ryan Mallett
2012: Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiler, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles
2013: EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon
2014: Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garropolo
2015: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta, Garrett Grayson

There's 34 quarterbacks for you. How many are worth a top 10 pick? How many are truly elite? Before Cam went off this year, you could argue.....none.

Flacco, Stafford, Newton, and Wilson are debateable. I'm not including Luck yet because he's an interception machine who folds like a cheap tent against good teams. Too early for the last two drafts, but the only guy impressing me so far is Derek Carr.

Elite quarterbacks are Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and Romo. The draft isn't producing those kind of quarterbacks anymore because they run this spread nonsense with predetermined reads and no snaps under center. It doesn't work in pro football, so you spend five years teaching a guy how to play, then he's an unrestricted free agent before you know what you have.

 

[Dodger12]

There's 34 quarterbacks for you. How many are worth a top 10 pick? How many are truly elite? Before Cam went off this year, you could argue.....none.

Well, not many of them are worth a top 10 pick, especially since very few of them were. I mean, did you just list QB's taken in the first 3 rounds and ask how many are worthy of a top 10 pick?

In any event, Ryan, Stafford, Newton, Luck and even Flacco are worthy IMO. Throw in Palmer, Big Ben, Rivers (whom I'm on the fence on), Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers and you have franchise QB's from round 1. It's too early on Winston and Marriotta.

But what your post really proves is that, outside the 1st round, your chances of finding that franchise QB are much harder.

 

[DandyDon52]

that kid always freaks me out,he always sits there in the corner with his serial killer look.

He is probably thinking ......man! I'll be 60 or 70 before I get to be the top dog, and by then I wont care!

 

[DandyDon52]

Wow so basically your all dumping romo or think he is now injury prone ?? lol
he will play the whole season next year.

And no matter who u guys want to draft or get FA, the jones boys wont pick or get them.

 

[erod]

Well, not many of them are worth a top 10 pick, especially since very few of them were. I mean, did you just list QB's taken in the first 3 rounds and ask how many are worthy of a top 10 pick?

In any event, Ryan, Stafford, Newton, Luck and even Flacco are worthy IMO. Throw in Palmer, Big Ben, Rivers (whom I'm on the fence on), Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers and you have franchise QB's from round 1. It's too early on Winston and Marriotta.

But what your post really proves is that, outside the 1st round, your chances of finding that franchise QB are much harder.

My basic point is that there are about 10 franchise quarterbacks on the planet, period. Hope is not a strategy in the draft.

Most drafts, there aren't any quarterbacks worth a damn. You're better off going after the Mettenbergers and Stantons than rolling the dice on terrible odds in the first round.

In the Top Ten, you go get that kid that you're 80 percent sure is elite, no matter what position he plays. Just take him and be done with it.

 

[IrishAnto]

QBs drafted top three rounds last eight years:

2008: Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Kevin O'Connell
2009: Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy
2011: Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Ryan Mallett
2012: Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiler, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles
2013: EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon
2014: Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garropolo
2015: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta, Garrett Grayson

There's 34 quarterbacks for you. How many are worth a top 10 pick? How many are truly elite? Before Cam went off this year, you could argue.....none.

Flacco, Stafford, Newton, and Wilson are debateable. I'm not including Luck yet because he's an interception machine who folds like a cheap tent against good teams. Too early for the last two drafts, but the only guy impressing me so far is Derek Carr.

Elite quarterbacks are Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and Romo. The draft isn't producing those kind of quarterbacks anymore because they run this spread nonsense with predetermined reads and no snaps under center. It doesn't work in pro football, so you spend five years teaching a guy how to play, then he's an unrestricted free agent before you know what you have.

So what’s your option then?

Don’t draft one at all?

Like to make a list of all QBs taken 3rd round and later and tell me the percentage of them who turn out to be good enough?

The fact is most teams that make it to a Super Bowl will have a QB taken in the 1st round taking the snaps.

For the last few years and for the foreseeable future most college teams won’t run a pro-style offense so one way or another you’ll have to coach them up.

You best chance it to take the best prospect at QB and give them time to learn.

At lot of those QBs you list had to start straight away on poor teams and that makes the odds longer of them being successful.

So unless you envisage the Cowboys picking in the top 10 for the next few years, I would suggest you take the opportunity when you have the chance.

 

[erod]

So what’s your option then?

Don’t draft one at all?

Like to make a list of all QBs taken 3rd round and later and tell me the percentage of them who turn out to be good enough?

The fact is most teams that make it to a Super Bowl will have a QB taken in the 1st round taking the snaps.

For the last few years and for the foreseeable future most college teams won’t run a pro-style offense so one way or another you’ll have to coach them up.

You best chance it to take the best prospect at QB and give them time to learn.

At lot of those QBs you list had to start straight away on poor teams and that makes the odds longer of them being successful.

So unless you envisage the Cowboys picking in the top 10 for the next few years, I would suggest you take the opportunity when you have the chance.

If they don't absolutely love the makeup and potential of a QB, then don't draft on hope and prayer. That's the point.

 

[IrishAnto]

If they don't absolutely love the makeup and potential of a QB, then don't draft on hope and prayer. That's the point.

And it they do I take it you don't have any problem with it?

 

[erod]

And it they do I take it you don't have any problem with it?

They'd better damn sure be right.

Remember, Romo is still here, and there is no rookie QB that is going to take this team anywhere next year anyway.

I'd like to go get Mettenberger myself, and draft Laquan Treadwell to go along with Dez. That is a more pressing need right now.

There's upwards of $40 million in cap space if they want it. Go sign 2-3 key free agents, and draft well.

 

[erod]

And it they do I take it you don't have any problem with it?

Let's say they like Paxton Lynch, and he's the real deal. He'll be good in 3-4 years at the earliest.

By then, Witten is gone, Dez is much older and slower, the offensive linemen are all high-priced free agents, Lee is gone, etc. The whole roster will be turned over by the time Lynch is ready.

So, understand that drafting Lynch is for the NEXT Cowboys team, not this one.

 

[IrishAnto]

They'd better damn sure be right.

Remember, Romo is still here, and there is no rookie QB that is going to take this team anywhere next year anyway.

I'd like to go get Mettenberger myself, and draft Laquan Treadwell to go along with Dez. That is a more pressing need right now.

There's upwards of $40 million in cap space if they want it. Go sign 2-3 key free agents, and draft well.

Is that not true of any top 10 pick?

Romo is still here but how well will he play if he stays on the field.

Remember we have the Romo Wednesdays and he hasn't looked good when he's had a short week to prepare.

As for Laquan Treadwell, he needs to learn how to run proper routes and by the time he does that, Romo might very well be on his last legs.

Remember Dez took a couple of years to learn.

Even if they go QB in the first there is still plenty of opportunity to help the team with a high pick in every round and as you said with a couple of good free agent picks and a healthy Romo (figures crossed) we might just do something.

And of course we might have his eventual replacement learning from one of the best.

 

[IrishAnto]

Let's say they like Paxton Lynch, and he's the real deal. He'll be good in 3-4 years at the earliest.

By then, Witten is gone, Dez is much older and slower, the offensive linemen are all high-priced free agents, Lee is gone, etc. The whole roster will be turned over by the time Lynch is ready.

So, understand that drafting Lynch is for the NEXT Cowboys team, not this one.

I would say two years but again if you draft one next then you 4-5 years down the line are you not.

 

[Craig]

Let's say they like Paxton Lynch, and he's the real deal. He'll be good in 3-4 years at the earliest.

By then, Witten is gone, Dez is much older and slower, the offensive linemen are all high-priced free agents, Lee is gone, etc. The whole roster will be turned over by the time Lynch is ready.

So, understand that drafting Lynch is for the NEXT Cowboys team, not this one.

I get it now...just never draft for the most important position on the team. Makes sense

 

[Redball Express]

Has anyone even watched Maziel play lately? The dude has looked really goodand has been playing the position well. Going through his progressions like a veteran and leading the team on scoring drives. I know he has some immaturity and off the field issues, but if you could fix that...

Hey.. Brett Farve had some immaturity issues, too.

So did Kenny Stabler.

Both Party Animals early in their carreers.

Today is not a guarrantee of tomorrow.

People change and grow.

I will say we need a mobile QB with out a doubt.

Manziel is that and he has had little punishment his first 2 years.

As long as we do not give a 1 or 2 pick for him..

I would consider a trade on draft day to Cleveland and use our picks to address the defense again.

 

[IrishAnto]

Hey.. Brett Farve had some immaturity issues, too.

So did Kenny Stabler.

Both Party Animals early in their carreers.

Today is not a guarrantee of tomorrow.

People change and grow.

I will say we need a mobile QB with out a doubt.

Manziel is that and he has had little punishment his first 2 years.

As long as we do not give a 1 or 2 pick for him..

I would consider a trade on draft day to Cleveland and use our picks to address the defense again.

First it was Jerry with failed Baseball players, now people here want him to start a trend with failed QBs from one of the worst franchises in the NFL.

Yep! That’s a recipe for success if I ever saw one.

 

[Dodger12]

My basic point is that there are about 10 franchise quarterbacks on the planet, period. Hope is not a strategy in the draft.

Most drafts, there aren't any quarterbacks worth a damn. You're better off going after the Mettenbergers and Stantons than rolling the dice on terrible odds in the first round.

In the Top Ten, you go get that kid that you're 80 percent sure is elite, no matter what position he plays. Just take him and be done with it.

You can't pigeon hole yourself because there is no certainty. Quite frankly, as I've stated before, I'd draft a QB in the 1st round every single year if I had to until I got it right because the position is simply that important. And going with the Mettenbergers and Stantons of thew world is exactly the type of strategy you want to avoid: hope. Because that's what you'd be doing on such a long shot.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

hopefully Johnny stays in Cleveland his whole career.

With Jerry though probably not. Diaster.

 

[Redball Express]

First it was Jerry with failed Baseball players, now people here want him to start a trend with failed QBs from one of the worst franchises in the NFL.

Yep! That’s a recipe for success if I ever saw one.

You know..

Its all about the coaching and the system.

Cleveland's coaches and their directions are different from ours.

Hey..they had Rob Ryan and Weeden.

I hear what you feel.

I just think after last year when so much was good..

you can't just throw everything and everybody under the bus.

What we need is more talent and some injury luck.

When Romo played a whole season last year..

it was peaches and cream.

Logically once Murray left..

We all knew that shifted the pressure to Romo again.

I have no problems with wanting to keep playing him.

Dudes a warrior.

But he needs help and its coming.