stephen mcgee

[silverbear]

Mobile?
McGee, the self-described first or second rounder, has himself said he's NOT known for his agility but for his arm. How that makes him mobile is beyond me.

899 yards rushing on 181 carries in 2007 says you and he are both wrong...

That only led the Aggies in rushing...

It's weird, the way some folks on all the Cowboys message boards I haunt feel this compelling need to distort the truth about McGee and his skillset... on another board, I had a poster frantically insist that his arm strength was poor... even after I provided quotes from a half dozen different sources saying his arm strength was just fine...

McGee had two problems in college, that kept him from putting up the kind of numbers most folks expected he would-- the Aggies badly misused him in 2006 and 2007, turning him into a freakin' option quartertack, then when they went to a more conventional attack in 08, he hurt his throwing shoulder...

His mechanics need work, but as the Cowboys' 3rd QB, he'll have some time to address that issue...

 

[silverbear]

Leach was right, only he was highly undiplomatic in his comments.

That was trash talk, pure and simple... trash talk is generally pretty undiplomatic...

 

[silverbear]

AS far as Big 12 Qb's where did this guy rank. 2 TD's last year?

Reesing
Daniels
McCoy
Harrell
Bradford
Robinson
Heck the kid from Baylor

All better. And in a conference where defense is an afterthought.

What part of "he was hurt" don't you understand??

 

[silverbear]

I'm not basing it off production. I basing it on lack of and to spend a 4th rounder is ridiculous.

And yet, most every draft board I saw had McGee rated as a 3rd or 4th round prospect...

Seems you really don't know what you're talking about...


At least when the Pats drafted Cassell who had no body of work, they got a guy who worked under Norm Chow in pro style offense.

young backup material? Possibly.
Starter? Thats what this has come to?

Don't be ridiculous, NOBODY is saying he's gonna contend for a starting spot this year... at least, nobody with a lick of sense... McGee won't even be the Cowboys' number 2 QB this year...

IF he becomes a starter, it will be some years down the line...

 

[silverbear]

Unfortunately, I saw him in very limited action last year, owing to the fact he was injured for most of the season and then was benched (I heard) as that other very mobile QB emerged at A&M.

But I was going on McGee's assertion as well, that he was NOT very agile and was a better passer than a mover/runner.

I saw that comment as a defensive one on McGee's part, I don't think he wants to get pigeonholed as a running QB... look at his numbers, and you'll know that he's quite mobile...

One hopes that he's a better passer than runner, because he's a pretty good running QB...

I hope he does well, but 3 QBs? I don't think so, and if so, that's Jerra at work again, keeping his picks on the team.

Actually, keeping 3 QBs on the roster has always been the norm for the Boys... most teams do...

 

[silverbear]

Don't be surprised if Carpenter out performs him in the preseason.

Yeah, that'll happen... lemme guess, you're from AridZona...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You heard wrong. He was injured never benched. McGee and his coach have both been on the record saying that is bunk.

He was injured for most of the year but when healed the other QB had established himself.

And, of course, they would say that he was never benched.
Is that a point of contention or whut?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

899 yards rushing on 181 carries in 2007 says you and he are both wrong...

That only led the Aggies in rushing...

It's weird, the way some folks on all the Cowboys message boards I haunt feel this compelling need to distort the truth about McGee and his skillset... on another board, I had a poster frantically insist that his arm strength was poor... even after I provided quotes from a half dozen different sources saying his arm strength was just fine...

McGee had two problems in college, that kept him from putting up the kind of numbers most folks expected he would-- the Aggies badly misused him in 2006 and 2007, turning him into a freakin' option quartertack, then when they went to a more conventional attack in 08, he hurt his throwing shoulder...

His mechanics need work, but as the Cowboys' 3rd QB, he'll have some time to address that issue...

Before you work yourself up into a lather, like I said, he himself has said he's not agile. I don't recall mentioning yardage, but again, Einstein, that was from McGee.
And don't take it personally, dude, and by all means untwist them.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I saw that comment as a defensive one on McGee's part, I don't think he wants to get pigeonholed as a running QB... look at his numbers, and you'll know that he's quite mobile...

One hopes that he's a better passer than runner, because he's a pretty good running QB...



Actually, keeping 3 QBs on the roster has always been the norm for the Boys... most teams do...

Crayton and or Stanback if he stays around can be the emergency QB. And the norm has been to keep reserve teams if not for the short term but for the developmental term. Maybe McGee would be ideal on the practice squad. He could be learning and growing.
OK, McGee guy, we are lucky to have a third-string QB who can run.
Feel free to post that on your McGee Fan Club bulletin board.

 

[silverbear]

Before you work yourself up into a lather, like I said, he himself has said he's not agile. I don't recall mentioning yardage, but again, Einstein, that was from McGee.
And don't take it personally, dude, and by all means untwist them.

Why is it that every time I offer a factual rebuttal, guys like you think I'm getting upset?? Most folks in here know I'm a semi-serious Longhorns fan, why would I feel the need to defend a freakin' Aggie??

Try to get past what McGee said, and look at the numbers, then tell me the guy's not mobile...

 

[silverbear]

Crayton and or Stanback if he stays around can be the emergency QB.

Again, most teams, including the Cowboys, carry 3 QBs... there's no reason not to, when carrying one essentially gives you a 46 man active roster, rather than a 45 man active roster... that's because the 3rd QB can be kept inactive but still enter the game if the other two QBs get hurt (the first two just can't reenter the game if he does)...

Maybe McGee would be ideal on the practice squad. He could be learning and growing.

McGee would never make it onto the practice squad, another team would almost certainly claim him...

OK, McGee guy, we are lucky to have a third-string QB who can run.
Feel free to post that on your McGee Fan Club bulletin board.

Chuckle... again, you make uninformed assumptions, and wind up looking rather stupid... in point of fact, I said before the draft that if I was running things, I wouldn't draft a QB... I said that I'd sign one of the undrafted QBs, and wait for the bumper crop of QBs next year to get Romo's eventual replacement...

Nope, ALL I'm doing in this thread is countering some BS... I wouldn't care if you disliked McGee, if your dislike was based on reality... I have no idea if Stephen McGee will ever develop into a quality NFL QB, even a quality NFL backup... I just know that lots of scouts, and apparently the Cowboys, think so...

And I know that he was drafted right about where the draft gurus said he would be... if you have a philosophical problem with drafting a QB at pick 101, that's fine, I'm not even sure I disagree with you... but when you go saying he was a reach at 101, he wasn't... and when you say he isn't mobile, you're simply wrong... so wrong that it calls your opinion into question...

 

[birdwells1]

Yeah, that'll happen... lemme guess, you're from AridZona...

So you think it's a reach to say that Carpenter will out perform an option QB that was never ranked in the top 6 QBs in the conference and was ranked #2 at A&M? At least Carpenter has played well at a major conference, your going off McGee's high school career.

 

[reddyuta]

lets give the kid a break-its not his fault he got stuck running the option.lets give him 2 years and then assess his progress.

 

[silverbear]

So you think it's a reach to say that Carpenter will out perform an option QB that was never ranked in the top 6 QBs in the conference and was ranked #2 at A&M? At least Carpenter has played well at a major conference, your going off McGee's high school career.

Yes, it's a reach to say that Carpenter will beat out McGee...

I guess you haven't figured out that success in college does not always equate to success in the NFL... look at the number of Heisman Award-winning QBs who never amounted to jack in the pros...

Rudy's arm strength is not NFL-caliber, and it never will be... McGee's is... he also has an unfortunate rep for making bad decisions, Stephen doesn't have that rep... and he has a rep for locking on to his receivers...

IOW, he gets less than top grades for the mental side of the game, McGee generally gets much better grades... which is, of course, why McGee was drafted and Carpenter wasn't...

McGee is a smart field general, Carpenter isn't... McGee has an NFL arm, Carpenter doesn't... Rudy has a bad 'tude (he's in love with himself, basically), Stephen doesn't have that rep...

Carpenter's better stats were largely a function of playing on a team with superior talent to the one McGee played on...

 

[dbair1967]

Interesting the more a read about him. Kind of similar with what happend to Aikman at Oaklahoma, had he stayed there playing the wishbone he wouldn't have been drafted 1st. Good thing for us he got out of that situation and went to UCLA.

Pretty sure this isnt true. Switzer dropped the wishbone to convince Aikman to come to OU. Once Aikman got hurt, he went back to it.

Aikman had elite passing talent, it did however work out great for him to go to UCLA because they had been runnign a prostyle offense for years, and Aikman got to showcase his tremendous talent there.

 

[jimmy40]

What part of "he was hurt" don't you understand??

The part that 99.9% of aggies here in College Station don't even believe. well until now that he's a Cowboy of course.

 

[jimmy40]

[QUOTE="jk";2757073]Mcgee is a tough sonofagun. He can take a licking, and still compete. I think The Cowboys need his kind of toughness.[/QUOTE] But I thought he got hurt?

 

[birdwells1]

Yes, it's a reach to say that Carpenter will beat out McGee...

I guess you haven't figured out that success in college does not always equate to success in the NFL... look at the number of Heisman Award-winning QBs who never amounted to jack in the pros...

Rudy's arm strength is not NFL-caliber, and it never will be... McGee's is... he also has an unfortunate rep for making bad decisions, Stephen doesn't have that rep... and he has a rep for locking on to his receivers...

IOW, he gets less than top grades for the mental side of the game, McGee generally gets much better grades... which is, of course, why McGee was drafted and Carpenter wasn't...

McGee is a smart field general, Carpenter isn't... McGee has an NFL arm, Carpenter doesn't... Rudy has a bad 'tude (he's in love with himself, basically), Stephen doesn't have that rep...

Carpenter's better stats were largely a function of playing on a team with superior talent to the one McGee played on...

You can't make bad decisions from the bench. I'm not saying that Carpenter will beat out McGee, I'm saying he will out perform him. Jerry the GM would never cut his controverial draft pick for an udfa.

Smart field general? When did he display those characteristics? While leading A&M to losing seasons.

 

[SMCowboy]

I saw that comment as a defensive one on McGee's part, I don't think he wants to get pigeonholed as a running QB... look at his numbers, and you'll know that he's quite mobile...

One hopes that he's a better passer than runner, because he's a pretty good running QB...

Coming out of high school he was NOT known for his running skills but for his throwing ability. So, given that we know he can run, it will be interesting to see what he can do throwing the football with decent talent.

 

[SMCowboy]

You can't make bad decisions from the bench. I'm not saying that Carpenter will beat out McGee, I'm saying he will out perform him. Jerry the GM would never cut his controverial draft pick for an udfa.

Smart field general? When did he display those characteristics? While leading A&M to losing seasons.

He was making good decisions with the football his Freshman, Sophomore and Junior seasons as well....

Take a look at his stats. He Sophomore and Junior seasons had posted QB ratings of: 134 and 117...