Stephen McGee

McGee should have been working on being a placeholder for FGs and doing whatever it takes to make him versatile so he'll have a better chance of making the team.
 
Doomsday101;3510618 said:
I would not be upset if they did give him that but I have more doubts now than I had before going into pre season because I do expect him making plays. I accept the fact he will make mistakes but I have not seen alot of play making ability

I've mentioned this several times, but if you didn't already have knowledge of what Romo was capable of would you want him as our starter based on what he has shown in preseason. NONE of the QB's have done much given the limitations of our preseason offense. Why do we expect our 3rd string prosepct to shwo more than our 1st and 2nd teamers?
 
Stautner;3510625 said:
I've mentioned this several times, but if you didn't already have knowledge of what Romo was capable of would you want him as our starter based on what he has shown in preseason. NONE of the QB's have done much given the limitations of our preseason offense.

I understand that but I'm not going to cut a guy who is showing talent for McGee unless McGee gives me a reason. We have some guys on the bubble that I think have shown ability to play and help. I hate to say it but we can get another project QB all I want is to see McGee give a reason why he should get a spot and you do that by showing something in these games.
 
The coaches should ask themselves this question:

Based on what you have seen out of McGee this year, can he knock John Kitna off the roster next year?

If the answer is no, then it's time to draft another QB, imo.
 
41gy#;3510673 said:
The coaches should ask themselves this question:

Based on what you have seen out of McGee this year, can he knock John Kitna off the roster next year?

If the answer is no, then it's time to draft another QB, imo.

Very Fair!

Give him a full game , say the last pre-season with protection and see what he can do ! If he can play like a NFL QB , keep him in the 53 and dump Kitna next year or let him go .
 
41gy#;3510673 said:
The coaches should ask themselves this question:

Based on what you have seen out of McGee this year, can he knock John Kitna off the roster next year?

If the answer is no, then it's time to draft another QB, imo.

Are the terms "project" and "developmental player" really that foreign to people? A decision can't be made a year from now based on how he has looked in a couple of preseason games this year. There is a point that they will expect things to click, but there is no set time frame that says it has to be at the start of this preseason. Again, it didn't happen in Austin's 2nd preseason, or Romo's, or Ball's or any number of players that are project types.
 
41gy#;3510673 said:
The coaches should ask themselves this question:

Based on what you have seen out of McGee this year, can he knock John Kitna off the roster next year?

If the answer is no, then it's time to draft another QB, imo.

I think it took 3rd string Staubach longer than that to knock off Morton, who was backup to Dandy Don.

Maybe he should have been cut.

:D
 
Angus;3510851 said:
I think it took 3rd string Staubach longer than that to knock off Morton, who was backup to Dandy Don.

Maybe he should have been cut.

:D

I'm for keeping McGee another year, but that's not really apples to apples. Staubach lost 4 years after college to the Navy.

There is one similarity though. Neither Staubach or McGee played in a pass oriented offense in college, so both had to learn and adjust.
 
Angus;3510851 said:
I think it took 3rd string Staubach longer than that to knock off Morton, who was backup to Dandy Don.

Maybe he should have been cut.

:D

Staubach's promise was evident from the get-go. Remember how he quarterbacked, as a rookie, the Cowboys to victory on opening day of the 1969 season against the Cardinals.

And he was a Heisman Trophy winner.

To mention McGee and Staubach in the same sentence is wrong, just wrong.

:nono2:
 
Nightshade;3510451 said:
Bills rule.

3rd year's a charm when it comes to drafted players.
That was Tom Landry's rule and even Bill did not follow it. He cut Henson after 1 year and 2 Training Camps.
 
Randy White;3509683 said:
Over the past couple of days I've been reading in several threads in here a growing sentiment for cutting Stephen. The explanations range from " he hasn't shown anything " to " he can't read defenses " to " he'll take a valuable roster spot ", etc..etc..

I vehemently disagree with cutting him for several reasons. For starters, he still hasn't had 2 full training camps under his belt yet. If the Cowboys are serious about developing a QB, it would be a complete joke getting rid of the one they CHOSED ( meaning they must have seen something in him ) barely a full year into his development. The NFL history is littered with examples of QBs taking 2, 3, 4 and in some cases 5 years to become starters, some of them because their original teams made the mistake of cutting them too early ( best example of them all: Johnny Unitas ).

In terms of saving a roster spot for that extra lineman or LB or DB or WR that looks " promising ", every single year the Cowboys have had those cases and I've yet to see many of them turn into " oh, what if ". However, we did witnessed a " oh, what if " QB being cut in order to keep one of those extra LB, lineman, or WR or DB, and turn into a starter a year later.

So my questions to those of you who want to get rid of him is how long should the Cowboys keep a developmental QB on the roster ? Should they cut developmental QBs after 1 year ? 2 years ? 3 years ?

I was glad we drafted him because I thought he had what it took to make it in the NFL, but I'm no longer sure. It's not his physical ability that I now question...it's the mental aspect of the game that I worry about.
I don't think he should be cut this year, but I think we should be looking for someone else to bring onboard to replace Romo down the line.
 
Angus;3510851 said:
I think it took 3rd string Staubach longer than that to knock off Morton, who was backup to Dandy Don.

Maybe he should have been cut.

:D
:rolleyes: Funny one. I know that was tongue-in-cheek, but...

Recall that Staubach was a polished, Heisman-winning QB when he entered the league. A total leader who was the top QB in the nation. He was recently voted the 9th best college player of all time. Even though Navy was run oriented, Roger could sling it very well.
No comparison whatsoever.

I do think we keep McGee another year and see if he can continue to grow (hopefully at a faster rate). But just remember he is a borderline experiment and has never (not in pro or college) been mistaken as even a remotely polished QB.
 
Hostile;3510221 said:
Against 1st stringers for the Steelers vs. 2nd and 3rd stringers that McGee has faced. Did the Giants Offense score? Uh, that would be a roger.

I call that looking better.

Honestly I'd call it a fluke. Bomar hasnt impressed me much at all.
 
TheCoolFan;3510649 said:
McGee should have been working on being a placeholder for FGs and doing whatever it takes to make him versatile so he'll have a better chance of making the team.

He could work on it, but unless he's gonna be active it doesnt matter. He cant hold if he's the 3rd QB.
 
Hostile;3510991 said:
That was Tom Landry's rule and even Bill did not follow it. He cut Henson after 1 year and 2 Training Camps.

Absolutely correct. Parcells did say that Landry taught him that rule. I know that Bill didn't always apply it to all players but really only to his own projects. Henson was JJ's project from the beginning and Parcells seemed to have little enthusiasm for him to the point where ignoring the 3 year rule in his case came as no surprise.

Mcgee has the physical tools and a bit more time might allow him to develop the decision making skills necessary to show something when he has the opportunity. I'm still hoping he steps up and shows something in these next couple of games.
 
Somebody will pick up McGee. Like Tampa Bay, whose third QB is Rudy Carpenter (remember him?) ... but I wonder if McGee will stick anywhere. At worst he will kick around the league for a few years and be some other team's project.
 
AdamJT13;3509690 said:
Timmy Mac said on the pregame show that he was told by those within the organization that there's almost NO chance that McGee gets cut this year.

In other words, it's bound to happen.

Pretty much...
 
hammer1;3511034 said:
I was glad we drafted him because I thought he had what it took to make it in the NFL, but I'm no longer sure. It's not his physical ability that I now question...it's the mental aspect of the game that I worry about.
I don't think he should be cut this year, but I think we should be looking for someone else to bring onboard to replace Romo down the line.

We knew from the get go that the physical tools were there and the mental aspects of the position were what would take time to develop, so why are you saying we should cut him because he has the physical tools but the mental aspects of the position are taking time to develo? You are saying we should cut him for exactly the reason we viewed him as a worthy project.

The guy missed time to injury in college and his college switched to a run based system while he was there. We knew he didn't have the kind of college background as a passer he would need and that it would take some time. He's been with the team just a little over a year at this point. People act like it's been 2 years, but from April 2009 to August 2010 not 2 years, and is not 2 seasons. As a project he should get at that much, and if he still doesn't look like he is on the track we need him to be on then we can cut him. It makes no sense to have a project and not have any patience.
 
I dont think McGee has shown enough that it warrants a spot on the 53 man roster. He has upside but its worth the risk of trying to get him on the PS in my opinion.
 
Stautner;3512013 said:
We knew from the get go that the physical tools were there and the mental aspects of the position were what would take time to develop, so why are you saying we should cut him because he has the physical tools but the mental aspects of the position are taking time to develo? You are saying we should cut him for exactly the reason we viewed him as a worthy project.

The guy missed time to injury in college and his college switched to a run based system while he was there. We knew he didn't have the kind of college background as a passer he would need and that it would take some time. He's been with the team just a little over a year at this point. People act like it's been 2 years, but from April 2009 to August 2010 not 2 years, and is not 2 seasons. As a project he should get at that much, and if he still doesn't look like he is on the track we need him to be on then we can cut him. It makes no sense to have a project and not have any patience.


:hammer:
 
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