Stephen: We can win this thing with Dak

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I mean, yeah, but Andy Reid was not the Andy Reid we think of now until Mahomes came to town.

He was considered a failure that couldn't win the big

I mean, yeah, but Andy Reid was not the Andy Reid we think of now until Mahomes came to town.

He was considered a failure that couldn't win the big one.
I mean, yeah, but Andy Reid was not the Andy Reid we think of now until Mahomes came to town.

He was considered a failure that couldn't win the big one.
That's a fair point. But when you mentioned Mahomes, it made me wonder what would have happened if the Cowboys had traded a third rounder for Alex Smith instead of Washington. He wouldve have avoided that horrific injury, and certainly been an upgrade at that position. And given the players around him, who knows.
I mean, yeah, but Andy Reid was not the Andy Reid we think of now until Mahomes came to town.

He was considered a failure that couldn't win the big one.
 

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Yep, as @Hawkeye0202 mentioned (and I agree with), there was something in the way that Dak performed in the 49ers game that left a scar and seriously questions whether he has acumen to be a leader at the highest level.

It's shocking how he was a week away from the Buccs game (undoubtably one of the best games of his career) and even played well in 1st half vrs 49ers, but Pollard goes down, throws a pick next play and then composure meltdown.

Im with you he needs to dispel concerns about whether he's a leader or just an arm chair QB relying on the good roster around him.
Yep. Dak ended the year with two horrible games, and one great one.

QB rating
WAS 45.8
TB 143.3
SF 63.6

This is a huge problem. Can't have a QB up and down like that if you're trying to win a SB. You need to string games together to win a Championship.

Other teams are sure to have noticed this as well. Pretty controlled experiment here, in that Dak and the Cowboys had no drastic changes in offensive health over those weeks, at least until Pollard went down, while the defenses changed week to week, *and so did Dak*.

Now of course, we're gonna look at those games too, try to find the problems, and correct them. Try to get more TB Dak, and less SF and WAS Dak. Maybe the problem was in Moore, and we've already corrected it. But did Moore make Dak throw off target passes? Make him miss reads?

Whether Dak has something in him that is just erratic, or whether WAS and SF have something that just presses Dak's buttons, it's big problem.

Another weird thing. Dak's other game in the 40s - against Tampa to start the season, at 47.2.

47.2 to start the playoffs against Tampa, 143.3 to start the playoffs against Tampa. What's up with that?

It's not even home and away. The season opener was at home, while the playoff opener away.
 

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Yep. Dak ended the year with two horrible games, and one great one.

QB rating
WAS 45.8
TB 143.3
SF 63.6

This is a huge problem. Can't have a QB up and down like that if you're trying to win a SB. You need to string games together to win a Championship.

Other teams are sure to have noticed this as well. Pretty controlled experiment here, in that Dak and the Cowboys had no drastic changes in offensive health over those weeks, at least until Pollard went down, while the defenses changed week to week, *and so did Dak*.

Now of course, we're gonna look at those games too, try to find the problems, and correct them. Try to get more TB Dak, and less SF and WAS Dak. Maybe the problem was in Moore, and we've already corrected it. But did Moore make Dak throw off target passes? Make him miss reads?

Whether Dak has something in him that is just erratic, or whether WAS and SF have something that just presses Dak's buttons, it's big problem.

Another weird thing. Dak's other game in the 40s - against Tampa to start the season, at 47.2.

47.2 to start the playoffs against Tampa, 143.3 to start the playoffs against Tampa. What's up with that?

It's not even home and away. The season opener was at home, while the playoff opener away.
My 10 cents would be it's that he cant perform under extreme pressure, anxiety takes hold and affects his composure.....panics and makes plays that aren't there.
 

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I mean, yeah, but Andy Reid was not the Andy Reid we think of now until Mahomes came to town.

He was considered a failure that couldn't win the big one.
that is true, but he seems to be good at getting good asst coaches, oc, dc, etc.
And he was evidently on board with drafting mahomes, and they moved up to get him, so they for sure wanted him.
And they had a decent qb, but moved quickly to mahomes.

The jones boys would have, and have stuck with the decent qb, and even worse paid him top $
And they are now about to extend the same decent qb.

I doubt the jones boys even look at or consider college qb's coming out each year, so if another mahomes type was there they wouldnt
know it, and or try to get him.
Because they think dak is all they need, so to me Dak is just the easy answer for them.
 

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Yep. Dak ended the year with two horrible games, and one great one.

QB rating
WAS 45.8
TB 143.3
SF 63.6

This is a huge problem. Can't have a QB up and down like that if you're trying to win a SB. You need to string games together to win a Championship.

Other teams are sure to have noticed this as well. Pretty controlled experiment here, in that Dak and the Cowboys had no drastic changes in offensive health over those weeks, at least until Pollard went down, while the defenses changed week to week, *and so did Dak*.

Now of course, we're gonna look at those games too, try to find the problems, and correct them. Try to get more TB Dak, and less SF and WAS Dak. Maybe the problem was in Moore, and we've already corrected it. But did Moore make Dak throw off target passes? Make him miss reads?

Whether Dak has something in him that is just erratic, or whether WAS and SF have something that just presses Dak's buttons, it's big problem.

Another weird thing. Dak's other game in the 40s - against Tampa to start the season, at 47.2.

47.2 to start the playoffs against Tampa, 143.3 to start the playoffs against Tampa. What's up with that?

It's not even home and away. The season opener was at home, while the playoff opener away.
Dak has always been inconsistent , and by that I mean his passing, and decision making, from game to game.
The TB was an illusion, as TB just fell apart under bowles. Having Bowles as HC , is like not having a HC lol.
And had he stayed at just DC, the defense probably would have been better.
They were the weakest team in playoffs, so not really a good opponent.

SF has a good defense, but dak still made some bad throws, and decisions.
The real question is what happened with the last WASH game, both with dak and whole team lol.
 

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My 10 cents would be it's that he cant perform under extreme pressure, anxiety takes hold and affects his composure.....panics and makes plays that aren't there.
I don't think the issue is just pressure. There was *no* pressure against WAS, but he stunk it up.

Seems like sometimes he just loses his confidence. Gets confused and starts to get a tick hesitant on everything, and you just can't afford that in the NFL.
 

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I don't think the issue is just pressure. There was *no* pressure against WAS, but he stunk it up.

Seems like sometimes he just loses his confidence. Gets confused and starts to get a tick hesitant on everything, and you just can't afford that in the NFL.
I would have given him a mulligan for the WAS game, it was only us fans who thought it a real opportunity of no.1 seed.
But yep we're saying the same thing, it's down to how he reacts to in-game situations, is he able to raise his game (when everything around him is falling apart), or does he appear to fold (miss reads, open receivers, inaccurate throws, press throws that aren't there).
It's the, put Dak in a bubble and he looks a billion dollars, as soon as the environment changes ....
 

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I would have given him a mulligan for the WAS game, it was only us fans who thought it a real opportunity of no.1 seed.
But yep we're saying the same thing, it's down to how he reacts to in-game situations, is he able to raise his game (when everything around him is falling apart), or does he appear to fold (miss reads, open receivers, inaccurate throws, press throws that aren't there).
It's the, put Dak in a bubble and he looks a billion dollars, as soon as the environment changes ....
He gets thrown off his game too often. Don't know why. But unless that gets fixed we need to move on if we want to be a contender.
And I doubt Jerry will.
 

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must have started drinking earlier than he usually does before making that remark
 

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I think Daks troubles begin when the other team has somewhat of a decent defense. When Dallas oline doesn't dominate Dak struggles. The teams that have a physical defense usually bully this offense around.
 

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no stephen u want to win the super bowl not the stupid bowl

jerry stephen and dak are a dynasty in the stupid bowl tho
 

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The Cowboys appear comfortable extending Prescott with the quarterback contracts -- and salary cap -- going up. Perhaps they want to get a jump on a pay raise before the market inflates.

Market . . . What Market? . . . There is No Market . . . In 2 years when this Current Contract is up . . . Noooooo Onnnnnnne willllll wannnnnnnt Himmmm!!!!!!!

His market will be about 5 million a year as a back up
 

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You can win “this thing” with Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, Mark Rypien, etc., too.

Chances are lower though, dependent upon the compensating factors of how well built other parts of the team are as well as the coaching staff is.
People talk down on them but they Manned up an the Right time . . .Inherent talent or not they won
 

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He sells jerseys to people who will swallow anything the Jones boys offer up to drink

That's a franchise QB in Jerry and Stephen's world.
This is my question . . . How could they possibly still be selling #4 Jerseys?

Its gotta be the the US open Border Policy . . . I think Jerry and Stephan have it Set up with a NGO to j and out Cowboy Memorabilia to all the New "Texans" who loves Futbol but are clueless about Football
 

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Who cares what Stephen Jones thinks? Seriously.....who cares?

What does he know? If he wasn't Jerry's son, do you think he would have ever been given an opportunity to be an NFL executive? What credentials has he ever earned that would make fans interested in his opinion?

It's like asking the owner of a restaurant if his food tastes good. This may be just one of the diverse operations that he owns and he has never actually stepped into the kitchen. Still, what do you think he is going to say?

What is the mathematical probability that Stephen is going to answer this question in the negative? If it isn't zero then it is at the most, exponentially fractional.

When you read any article about Jerry or Stephen expressing an opinion then you know the author of this article is a lazy journalist simply going for the easy space filler. There is absolutely nothing there of substance. There is nothing provocative and there certainly isn't anything innovative. You are simply listening to a salesman selling his wares, nothing more.

Which other son of an NFL owner makes the news because he has an opinion of the team's ability to win a championship? Stephen's job is to be the figurehead of a very competent department within the franchise. The purpose of his job is to claim credit for their hard work. He probably spends four hours a week in his office just so he can be briefed by them in a scaled down simplistic fashion he can actually understand.
 

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This is my question . . . How could they possibly still be selling #4 Jerseys?

Its gotta be the the US open Border Policy . . . I think Jerry and Stephan have it Set up with a NGO to j and out Cowboy Memorabilia to all the New "Texans" who loves Futbol but are clueless about Football
It's all hype and no substance. Par for the course in Arlington, these days. From ownership/management on down.
 
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