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[khiladi]

Funny how Garrett homers are pinning this issue of forcing coordinators on him, which is why Garrett failed, yet not affording Wade this excuse, when he was given Jason, Houck, and Dave Campo. These are all guys JJ and Garrett were comfortable with. Remember, Wade's defensive line coach was Todd Grantham from 2008-2009 and that is when they went to second in points allowed. The 2010 season, Dallas just went PP, who was here during the Parcells years and we started falling apart. I think Bowles left too and we were stuck with Campo coming on board. Mike Solaris would have been here with his zone blocking schemes, but we went Houck for Garrett and we finally started moving to zone after Garrett's run game kept sucking. It only improved when Callahan took over the duties of play-calling.

 

[Next Years Champ]

Part of Garrett's problem is that he is so inexperienced that he does not have the ties across the league that a lot of coaches do.

There have been plenty of opportunities but if you notice they never come to fruition. Case in point, we once considered coaches like Adam Gase, who is now a hot assistant. We lowballed him with a job as a WR coach. Ray Horton was a DC, we offered him a job as a secondary coach.

He has basically been a Dallas lifer and that makes it harder for him to make this a destination that is highly desirable mainly because there are distinct roadblocks in the way.

Agreed.

When Johnson came..

he brought the whole UM staff with him.

One by one..they all left with new opportunities under Jimmy.

When Parcells came..he brought a whole slew of assistants with him..

they all went onto better jobs..

Under Garrett?

Nothing.

I can't wait for Garrett to be gone..

..but what I really fear is..

What comes next?

 

[Idgit]

Are you serious, bro? Jerry controls the whole team! He could walk into Garrett's office and demand him to shine his shoes and guess what? Garrett is on his knees.

You think? Callahan and Ryan did not seem like Jerry moves to me. Maybe they were. The Kiffin hire is the only one that seems fishy, but then he's got ties to Jason, too. I know everybody is upset right now and wants to believe the worst. I suspect in actuality the changes last season were driven by Jerry and jointly agreed to in the process. I've heard stories circulating that they were forced, but it's tough to know what was really done, by whom.

 

[Alexander]

I can't wait for Garrett to be gone..

..but what I really fear is..

What comes next?

That is why I really hope Mike Zimmer gets a head coaching job somewhere this offseason.

 

[KJJ]

The Cowboys are so dysfunctional under Jerry that back in 07 Garrett was hired as the OC before Wade was hired as the HC.

 

[dupree89]

Funny how Garrett homers are pinning this issue of forcing coordinators on him, which is why Garrett failed, .

Just so you know where I'm coming from, I didnt post this to defend Garrett. I posted this more to show that if he had any guts whatsoever, he'd tell Jerry that he was all done. But he wont do that, he's along for the ride....and people are laughing at him when he pretends he has any authority.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Well what if it's a group vote and the owner listens?

 

[EPL0c0]

Steve Mariucci just says....

"When your front office wants to start telling you, as the head coach, who will be on your staff...it is time for you to move on."

I agree. You?

I have been saying this for years. NO legitimate coach with ANY shred of self-respect would ever come to Dallas because they would not be allowed to pick their own staff.

Mooch says it, Cowher said it a few weeks ago as well.

The only guys that will come here are guys that are so desperate for a HC job that they are willing to put up with all that and Jerry's meddling and be his puppet just to have that HC title.

 

[Wolfpack]

I everyone misses the point of how deeply twisted things are in Dallas. Jerry doesn't just see himself as Owner/GM but also as the walk around head coach. I know that sounds crazy but thats what I think. If you accept that as the starting point, then from Jerry's distorted viewpoint, he is hiring HIS own staff and Jason is just the "assistance" head coach and then this all makes sense in his twisted world.

 

[visionary]

LOVE your sig
I think that is the cover picture from "How to be an NFL GM: Any idiot can do it" by Jerry Jones

 

[visionary]

You think? Callahan and Ryan did not seem like Jerry moves to me. Maybe they were. The Kiffin hire is the only one that seems fishy, but then he's got ties to Jason, too. I know everybody is upset right now and wants to believe the worst. I suspect in actuality the changes last season were driven by Jerry and jointly agreed to in the process. I've heard stories circulating that they were forced, but it's tough to know what was really done, by whom.

we are all involved (group hug), we are all responsible, therefore no one is responsible

and round and round we go

perfect

 

[visionary]

Are you serious, bro? Jerry controls the whole team! He could walk into Garrett's office and demand him to shine his shoes and guess what? Garrett is on his knees.

oh, he is serious

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Not many businesses where a manager gets to fire the entire staff and bring in a new one. But there aren't many businesses where a manager is held so accountable for performance.

I couldn't agree more.

I agree with Mooch on this deal. If I was an HC and this was the case I'd walk. It's really that simple.

Your HC should be hand picking his own staff and putting them where they should be.

 

[Idgit]

we are all involved (group hug), we are all responsible, therefore no one is responsible

and round and round we go

perfect

Got to hand it to you, visionary, you're nothing if not logically courageous.

 

[visionary]

Got to hand it to you, visionary, you're nothing if not logically courageous.

Got to hand it to you Idgit, avoiding the real issue as usual

Are the co-ordinators/position coaches (you know the ones that are being hired and fired with some regularity under the current HC) hired by Garrett or hired by Jerry?

I predict that you will argue both sides and tell us that no one knows because these are 'group decisions' (ie not take a position per usual)..... which would actually prove my point about the organizational structure and you (so thank you in advance)

 

[TwoDeep3]

The problem with this idea of telling Jerry who to select as coaches ignores something critical.

Jerry is not assured to be treated like a coach himself by these guys, thus he has to hire people who get the point in the interview that Jerry is head coach here and Garrett is simply carrying out his wishes.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Got to hand it to you Idgit, avoiding the real issue as usual

Are the co-ordinators/position coaches (you know the ones that are being hired and fired with some regularity under the current HC) hired by Garrett or hired by Jerry?

I predict that you will argue both sides and tell us that no one knows because these are 'group decisions' (ie not take a position per usual)..... which would actually prove my point about the organizational structure and you (so thank you in advance)

And yet wasn't it just three weeks ago when Jerry again confirmed he was the final decision maker on all decisions Cowboy? Visionary, I feel ya, dog.

 

[visionary]

And yet wasn't it just three weeks ago when Jerry again confirmed he was the final decision maker on all decisions Cowboy? Visionary, I feel ya, dog.

admitting that jerry makes these decisions is anathema to garrett lovers
he will never admit it because it would make garrett look like a spineless yes man

 

[TwoDeep3]

admitting that jerry makes these decisions is anathema to garrett lovers
he will never admit it because it would make garrett look like a spineless yes man

I thought there was an xray of Garrett back when he was a back-up QB that showed he didn't have a spine. My understanding is Jerry has that framed in his office.

 

[Idgit]

Got to hand it to you Idgit, avoiding the real issue as usual

Are the co-ordinators/position coaches (you know the ones that are being hired and fired with some regularity under the current HC) hired by Garrett or hired by Jerry?

I predict that you will argue both sides and tell us that no one knows because these are 'group decisions' (ie not take a position per usual)..... which would actually prove my point about the organizational structure and you (so thank you in advance)

It's not 'predicting' something to repeat what I've said earlier in the thread directly. And it's not 'arguing both sides' to say 'we don't know.' That's not what 'arguing both sides' means. I don't know who drove any of the coordinator hires. It would not surprise me if it were Jerry, and it would not surprise me if it were Garrett. I only commented originally to say that, if I were the HC, it would be a deal breaker for me if I weren't able to hire my own coordinators.

And yet wasn't it just three weeks ago when Jerry again confirmed he was the final decision maker on all decisions Cowboy? Visionary, I feel ya, dog.

What's up with the jumping to illogical conclusions in this thread, guys? And where's the hostility coming from?

Of course Jerry Jones is the final decision maker. He's said that publicly and without any room for confusion many, many times. Jason has confirmed it. As has every coach Jerry has hired since Jimmy. That's not the same thing as saying he will not allow some or all of his head coaches to hire or fire their own assistants.