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Manster54

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Garrett must have pissed too when he took the OC job well before Jerry hired Wade.

I agree. It's not like Garrett would have any room for complaints when Wade probably never would have hired him on his own volition.
 

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Jason would never make a "demand" to Jerry to "change or I will walk" because it would be an empty threat. Jason would have absolutely ZERO chance to be a head coach anywhere else in the league now with all his game and clock management gaffes.

HC ? He would not even be considered for OC if he were fired
 

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So some of you actually think JG took the play-calling duties away from himself?

Those of you who still think Jerry doesn't call the shots should also seek a financial planner to guide you through everything, including how many loaves of bread to buy each week.
 

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I agree completely....if I'm Garrett, I walk in to Jerry's office with a list of Head coach controlling demands and if Jerry doesn't agree, I'd resign immediately...staying here now at this point is only going to hurt Garrett's ability to get a job somewhere else, whether as a head coach or a coordinator or QB coach

Garrett would first have to find the jar Jerreh has kept his balls in for the last 3 years. It's probably on a high shelf...
 

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GMs demanding a head coach fire his offensive or defensive coordinator is nothing new in the NFL. It happens quite often. Coaches have been required to fire their dear friends at times. Usually, this is the last resort before firing the head coach if there is no improvement.

I don't know why people think Dallas has the market on this sort of thing. Very few head coaches are in complete control of anything, personnel or staff, unless they are very successful. The only real difference in Dallas is that the GM in Dallas is the owner and has been very unsuccessful since the 1990's.

The successful GMs we all have heard of, guys like Wolf and Newsome, were in control of more things than the coaches....however, they have had long stretches of success that make recent failures acceptable.

Jerry Jones, the GM, has improved in recent years, but he is still below average, and he would have fired himself at least twice by now. Still....it is what it is. We can only hope that he gets it right soon because it's been a long wait.
 

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Steve Mariucci just says....

"When your front office wants to start telling you, as the head coach, who will be on your staff...it is time for you to move on."

I agree. You?

Jason had no problems with this when Jerry brought him in before Wade. The Red-headed genius has brought in the staff he wanted, but failed. People need to cut the excuses for him.
 

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So some of you actually think JG took the play-calling duties away from himself?

Those of you who still think Jerry doesn't call the shots should also seek a financial planner to guide you through everything, including how many loaves of bread to buy each week.

He took it cause Garrett sucked, the implication is Jerry gave him six years of play-calling to get the job done.
 

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Jason had no problems with this when Jerry brought him in before Wade. The Red-headed genius has brought in the staff he wanted, but failed. People need to cut the excuses for him.

Honestly, Garrett knew exactly what he was dealing with in Jerry Jones. He knew the landscape.

There are times I actually feel sorry for him, but then where I see he just sits there and takes what would make most coaches walk out the door, I don't anymore.

That is one question I have though, why hasn't someone just asked Garrett--how does it feel to be described as being in training?
 

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So are you saying that garret has control of staff hires or that he is a spineless yes man?

Neither. I'm saying if it were me, I'd insist on the authority to hire my own staff. I don't think anybody knows how much Jerry really influences the hiring and firing of coordinators.
 

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Garrett can't turn around and ask for a different set of parameters for himself - after all, he was foisted upon Wade. And like somebody else said, when you know your next job would likely be a multi-million drop in pay and status, you just continue to ride the ride. Nothing I've seen in Garrett says he has any real kahunas going all the way back to his "dress code" that Barber promptly ignored without repercussion. Barber didn't even get a cut in playing time or miss a start. Garrett is paper mache all the way. All fluff, no substance. All of which, along with my what I mentioned above, makes him incapable of even considering Mariucci's stance.

Absolutely agree with this.

The reason Jason can't build this own staff is nobody wants to tie their coaching star to Garrett.

He doesn't have the résumé.. the experience or the authority to help them advance.

Unless you are dealing with a Kiffin's who is not looking for a HC position DTR..

assistants are looking for advancement thru the ranks.

Garrett is a dead end.

Look what happened to Rob Ryan.

He goes to NO and Payton and boom..

..his defense is a top one.

Never would happen in Dallas.
 

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Neither. I'm saying if it were me, I'd insist on the authority to hire my own staff. I don't think anybody knows how much Jerry really influences the hiring and firing of coordinators.

Are you serious, bro? Jerry controls the whole team! He could walk into Garrett's office and demand him to shine his shoes and guess what? Garrett is on his knees.
 

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Absolutely agree with this.

The reason Jason can't build this own staff is nobody wants to tie their coaching star to Garrett.

He doesn't have the résumé.. the experience or the authority to help them advance.

Part of Garrett's problem is that he is so inexperienced that he does not have the ties across the league that a lot of coaches do.

There have been plenty of opportunities but if you notice they never come to fruition. Case in point, we once considered coaches like Adam Gase, who is now a hot assistant. We lowballed him with a job as a WR coach. Ray Horton was a DC, we offered him a job as a secondary coach.

He has basically been a Dallas lifer and that makes it harder for him to make this a destination that is highly desirable mainly because there are distinct roadblocks in the way.
 

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Honestly, Garrett knew exactly what he was dealing with in Jerry Jones. He knew the landscape.

There are times I actually feel sorry for him, but then where I see he just sits there and takes what would make most coaches walk out the door, I don't anymore.

That is one question I have though, why hasn't someone just asked Garrett--how does it feel to be described as being in training?

Jerry, if he listened to Wade, would have looked a lot better if Dan Reeves consulted a long time ago. This idea of JG being trained from the beginning is another excuse by Jerry.

This clown thought he hit the jack pot with Red-headed Ginger, now he's trying to act like it's been his master plan with training Garrett. Three years with Wade was his original plan, while during those three years, he was catering to JGs needs. It was only this year that he decided to surround Garrett with guys to train him, because the excuses for this incompetent HC ran out. Romo was getting sacked at all-time career highs two years in a row running, before JJ pulled the trigger to demote him from play-calling. We were last in the league at play action.

If he listened to the advice of guys in the NFL for years, like Wade and Dan, he wouldn't have wasted the best years of Romo, Ware and Witten. The primary issue back then was Jason Garrett's inability to use a running game effectively, and here we are yet again.

JJ needs to admit the mistake of Garrett, stop trying to spin it as a master plan, and get a real coach. If you want to play GM fine, because we know you aren't going to change, but now JJ, you've extended your duties to covering for JGs tracks.
 
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