Sturm just said Eifert was in play at 18

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is what he said....

With reports that the Cowboys did not follow this process over the weekend when the room disagreed about taking Sharrif Floyd at #18 or trading down to get #31 and #74, we are left with whispers that Jerry Jones stepped in and grabbed the steering wheel when his personnel department and coaching staff wished to do otherwise. They spent all year setting up their board and doing their work, but when the moment of truth arrived, the veto power from the man on the throne slammed down. And the personnel department shook its collective head. It is his team and he can do what he wants, but to go against your brain trust when that has found trouble in the past, well...


As I said on Friday, I think trading down is a solid idea for a team with too many issues to address. And the very real possibility that they received Travis Frederick and Terrance Williams for Sharrif Floyd or possibly, Tyler Eifert seems like pretty good business in one sense. "

I think it was Floyd with the outside chance of Eifert....not for sure Eifert.
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I hear it was Marinelli and Kiffin that shot down Floyd. Those two were specifically named and their position on the matter defined. Jones made the decision so his stance was obvious.

What Garrett and Ciskowski or anyone else actually thought is based on worse that hearsay. Its from 'reading' facial expressions.

Really though if Kiffin and Marinelli say he doesn't fit the scheme then it is what it is. I can understand Jones siding with them.

 

[JPM]

I hear it was Marinelli and Kiffin that shot down Floyd. Those two were specifically named and their position on the matter defined. Jones made the decision so his stance was obvious.

What Garrett and Ciskowski or anyone else actually thought is based on worse that hearsay. Its from 'reading' facial expressions.

Really though if Kiffin and Marinelli say he doesn't fit the scheme then it is what it is. I can understand Jones siding with them.

Agreed, I'm not going against both Kiffin and/or Marinelli when it comes to DL-play.

 

[cowboysooner]

I hear it was Marinelli and Kiffin that shot down Floyd. Those two were specifically named and their position on the matter defined. Jones made the decision so his stance was obvious.

What Garrett and Ciskowski or anyone else actually thought is based on worse that hearsay. Its from 'reading' facial expressions.

Really though if Kiffin and Marinelli say he doesn't fit the scheme then it is what it is. I can understand Jones siding with them.

Sheldon Richardson was their guy and it seems like alot of other teams in the league (Jets, Vikings, 49ers).

 

[DFWJC]

I hear it was Marinelli and Kiffin that shot down Floyd. .

If true then you have to pass.

But I've heard a lot and that is not what I've heard.

Is there maybe a link to a quote of Jerry or Stephen or Jason saying that Marinelli and Kiffin did not want Floyd?

 

[DFWJC]

Sheldon Richardson was their guy and it seems like alot of other teams in the league (Jets, Vikings, 49ers).

ESPN today said Floyd was 2nd overall on Vikes board.

At this point I look at as Dallas got Frederick and Williams for the 18th...and combined they are just fine.

 

[KDM256]

If this was the case, then I'm glad we pulled the trigger onthe trade. I don't think Eifert is worth the Cowboys 1st round pick. The kid could be a player at the next level but his game doesn't stand out to me to warrant us taking him inthe first round. I much rather have the Center we picked up instead.

 

[morasp]

Yeah, that stupid Jerry! How Dare he override the collective decision in the roon to get Spears and draft Ware instead.

Oh wait sorry, wrong draft where the veto power from the man on the throne crashed down.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled rant.

No kidding. Seems like a no brainer Floyd, Escobar, Wilcox or Fredericks, Escobar, Williams, and Wilcox.

 

[BrassCowboy]

How fast do you think Witten is? I doubt he is any faster than that. When you're 6'6" with good hands, it doesn't matter if you are 4.84. I have seen reports than he was faster however.

My bet is witten is more like 5.5/40 . he can catch and he damn well knows where to catch the ball at but his run after the catch is atrocious

 

[DFWJC]

No kidding. Seems like a no brainer Floyd, Escobar, Wilcox or Fredericks, Escobar, Williams, and Wilcox.

Or

Floyd,DT.. then trade down in 2nd gather 2 more 3rds..tons of trades going on
Armstead, OT (or D Thomas, or B Winters)
T Williams, WR (or Moore, DE)
Schwenke, C
P Thomas, FS
Randle , RB
Bailey, LB

 

[Miller]

My issue with the 4.84 40 is that automatically they compare him and make him our Hernandez when Hernandez ran in the 4.6 range and is shiftier from highlights I've seen. The idea is to create matchup issues so I'm not sure how a slower guy with great hands all of a sudden is the answer. JMO.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If true then you have to pass.

But I've heard a lot and that is not what I've heard.

Is there maybe a link to a quote of Jerry or Stephen or Jason saying that Marinelli and Kiffin did not want Floyd?

I just looked it up and I read it from speedkillz. I saw no other corroboration certainly not from a verified source.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Schwenke is incredibly overrated in my book.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

My bet is witten is more like 5.5/40 . he can catch and he damn well knows where to catch the ball at but his run after the catch is atrocious

He is way slower than 4.5 he has to be in the 4.7-4.9 range IMO.

 

[reddyuta]

My issue with the 4.84 40 is that automatically they compare him and make him our Hernandez when Hernandez ran in the 4.6 range and is shiftier from highlights I've seen. The idea is to create matchup issues so I'm not sure how a slower guy with great hands all of a sudden is the answer. JMO.

Hernandez is a true "joker" TE,Escobar is never going to play that role here.best case scenario is that he becomes a eventual replacement for Witten.

 

[rags747]

and that is why Red was so pissed with the tradedown, he wanted Eifert bigtime to make his offense go. Red calmed down somewhat one we got Escobar in rnd 2

 

[Miller]

Hernandez is a true "joker" TE,Escobar is never going to play that role here.best case scenario is that he becomes a eventual replacement for Witten.

Right!!But that was their reasoning..when people were interviewed...for taking him...that we were going to use 2 TEs and be more like NE. Escobar isn't a Hernandez mold guy that creates matchup issues in a hurry up...at least in the way they run it.

 

[nalam]

I think Witten ran 4.7 or something close.

But today's Witten is much slower.:

Also being tall and good with hands you don't need too much separation, but need to move smoothly and have wiggle.

 

[DFWJC]

Was not a fan of burning the 2nd rounder on Escobar.

But he could end up being really good, and I bet he at least will be a deadly redzone threat.

 

[jac9k]

The drafting of Escobar made no sense.
Especially after Jones gave the reason as wanting to use the same 2 TE offense as NE.
My question is why?
Dallas and NE had very similar production from their passing games last season.
The difference was in the running game.
NE running game was 7th in yards with 25 tds
Dallas had the 31st with 8 tds.

I don’t think a 2nd round TE that can’t block is going to make up that difference in rushing.
IMO, that pick was better suited for a OL, DL or S.

 

[Slashar00]

How fast do you think Witten is? I doubt he is any faster than that. When you're 6'6" with good hands, it doesn't matter if you are 4.84. I have seen reports than he was faster however.

Witten ran a 4.65 in his combine. Pretty good for his size. He's probably a step slower than that now. Maybe 4.75.

I always remember Witten's combine speed because he doesn't seem that much faster than Romo who ran something like a 5.0 in the combine. Romo is just shifty and agile. I think 40 times are overrated for all positions other than WR/DB, so I'm completely fine with Escobar being another 3rd down chain mover or red zone threat.