Sturm: Morning After - All About Dak

[Sydla]

I agree and on top of that, I didn't/don't like Cook, however, I believe on the majority of teams, Cook outplays Prescott in 2016 if they were forced to start 16 games.

I doubt that. And as has been noted, it appears Cook is struggled in Raiders camp.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think a lot of people questioned Dak's deep ball because he played in a short passing offense at MSU and video to judge him by was scarce.

Life has matured Dak as a person, which I think is a large part of what makes him such a cool customer in the packet and such a great leader. On the field he has all the physical tools it takes to be great in the NFL and he is smart. He understands the game. Two quarters in one preseason game indicates nothing about Dak's future success playing regular season NFL football. But Dak Prescott is not Justin Vaughan or Steven McGee or Chad Hutchinson or any of the other guys the Cowboys have tried to turn into real NFL QB's. Unlike those guys Dak has everything it takes to be a great one, including one of the truly great ones to watch and learn from.

I think one thing that goes overlooked is that Dak played four years in college. I'm convinced (though I can't prove it) is that unless you're one of the elite quarterbacks who come out, that last year of a four-year stint does something for your awareness and maturity.

I called Dak Prescott a glorified Tim Tebow. But Prescott is a more precise thrower than Tebow is. As you said, we judged Dak based on the short-passing offense he played in. But it wasn't like he was playing with world beaters at tight end or receiver.
LSU has turned out Beckham and Landry at wide receiver.
Alabama has Amari Cooper recently.
Ole Miss just contributed Treadwell.
Who has Miss St. produced?

I think the lack of receiving talent hurt Dak. He was basically a one-man show.

The other thing is he has the temperament to play backup and wait his turn.

I don't know if Cook will/would be as content. I heard his father had a pretty strong hand in his development. I wonder with a young David Carr, Cook's not asking out of Oakland in two to three years.

 

[Plankton]

The thing that I saw that I liked was a few of his longer throws. The knock on him was that he was a bit iffy on the intermediate and deep routes but he showed some nice accuracy on those throws Saturday night. That long TD was a great pass.

It's one game so I am not going to get ahead of myself here but first impressions were very good............... and I am far from a Prescott fan.

Agreed. The thing I liked the most was that he was decisive. He had no hesitation in his play, no deer in the headlights moment. He looked confident, made sound decisions, and was the picture of poise.

I'm with you, I was not a fan of the pick. I'm not ready to run the other way, but to quote Top Gun, it's looking pretty good so far.

 

[DogFace]

Sturm mentioned the timing and placement on the screen passes. How long has it been since Dallas had a QB who executed those plays with a high level of skill? Tony has never really been known for that and Troy wasn't either. Would you have to go back all the way to Danny White?

I agree. This shouldn't be overlooked. Like Bob said we've seen them executed poorly enough to know that, although they look simple, they aren't.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I doubt that. And as has been noted, it appears Cook is struggled in Raiders camp.

I may be wrong, there are clearly times where all the draft pundits are wrong and this certainly can be one of them, but it's also worth noting two things, one we don't know what Cook is being asked to do. His struggles can be coming from them wanting to run the exact same offense if Carr goes down, I don't know and I'm not saying that's the case, just reports of Carr's struggles mean little without context. and two, Dak wasn't exactly getting rave reviews prior to Saturday either, now, had Romo played and Dak was out there with the second team o-line like Showers was, would he have played as well, not likely. Dak had a great opportunity and certainly made the most of it, but let's not throw out those scouting reports quite yet.

 

[bayeslife]

Agreed. The thing I liked the most was that he was decisive. He had no hesitation in his play, no deer in the headlights moment. He looked confident, made sound decisions, and was the picture of poise.

I'm with you, I was not a fan of the pick. I'm not ready to run the other way, but to quote Top Gun, it's looking pretty good so far.

We'll get to see what he's made of when he plays more snaps with the 2s and 3s next game

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I was thinking the same thing. Dak is already better than Romo on screen passes. Not sure why that aspect of the game eludes Tony.

Troy didn't do them well either. Gotta twist that back.

 

[dogunwo]

Sturm mentioned the timing and placement on the screen passes. How long has it been since Dallas had a QB who executed those plays with a high level of skill? Tony has never really been known for that and Troy wasn't either. Would you have to go back all the way to Danny White?

It's not that surprising to me, college offenses run a lot of those short high percentage pass plays.

 

[LatinMind]

And there are still people on this fprum that say this team cant develop a qb

 

[Sydla]

I may be wrong, there are clearly times where all the draft pundits are wrong and this certainly can be one of them, but it's also worth noting two things, one we don't know what Cook is being asked to do. His struggles can be coming from them wanting to run the exact same offense if Carr goes down, I don't know and I'm not saying that's the case, just reports of Carr's struggles mean little without context. and two, Dak wasn't exactly getting rave reviews prior to Saturday either, now, had Romo played and Dak was out there with the second team o-line like Showers was, would he have played as well, not likely. Dak had a great opportunity and certainly made the most of it, but let's not throw out those scouting reports quite yet.

I suspect if both had to start in the regular season, both would likely struggle. Rookies often do.

But I think Cook was the most overrated QB in this draft relative to projections. I think the whole, "well he ran a pro style" offense is a meaningless factor when one realizes he wasn't exactly great running it at MSU. Again, he never completed 60% of his passes in any season at MSU.

That's not good.

 

[Clove]

I really didn't get to watch video on Dak in College. The highlight video really didn't show what I wanted to see so as you can imagine, I was pleasantly surprised. It will be interesting to see how he handles things when he has no time behind the line, or they are sending more and more blitzers, disguising coverages and things as such.

 

[jobberone]

I remember him having a decent long ball in college just not used often. WR supporting cast not great either.

 

[nathanlt]

For those who haven't seen Gruden's QB camp with Dak Prescott, this is very insightful into Dak Prescott's mentality and positives and negatives. I just saw this today, and really enjoyed it. Having the QB of the future cannot be ruled out yet.

 

[Joe Realist]

The league liked Goff, Wentz, Lynch, Brissett, Hackenberg, Kessler, and Cook.....all before Prescott.

What if we got the best of the bunch?

If that really turns out to the case, then lucky us, especially since I wanted Wentz.

I have no idea what his career will look like and I know the Pats had no idea what they were getting in Tom Brady as a 6th round compensatory pick.

 

[erod]

If that really turns out to the case, then lucky us, especially since I wanted Wentz.

I have no idea what his career will look like and I know the Pats had no idea what they were getting in Tom Brady as a 6th round compensatory pick.

Wentz looked good. I'm sad to say. But that o-line will get him killed, after it gets Bradford killed.

 

[Macnalty]

The league liked Goff, Wentz, Lynch, Brissett, Hackenberg, Kessler, and Cook.....all before Prescott.

What if we got the best of the bunch?

Highly unlikely much like finding Romo as a UDFA. I think the phrase is hitting the lottery.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Cook played well in his preseason game as well

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Wentz looked good. I'm sad to say. But that o-line will get him killed, after it gets Bradford killed.

12-24 89 yards 0 TDs 1 pick 1 fumble looked good......accuracy was off big time. His throw on the run was decent but he didn't look good and I wasnt impressed

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Sturm mentioned the timing and placement on the screen passes. How long has it been since Dallas had a QB who executed those plays with a high level of skill? Tony has never really been known for that and Troy wasn't either. Would you have to go back all the way to Danny White?

I'd say the short touch pass is (and has always been) one of the few weaknesses Romo has in terms of throwing the ball.

 

[Joe Realist]

Wentz looked good. I'm sad to say. But that o-line will get him killed, after it gets Bradford killed.

Wentz is a long term investment, so it does not matter this year or next, its 2018 and beyond.