Sturm on the OG situation

[burmafrd]

That pretty much sums it up.

once again for the Polyannas who have ignored the problem for years that is easy to do

 

[NEODOG]

People forget how bad Romo is when pressured up the middle. So I say it's a damn pressing need

 

[DOUBLE WING]

I'm curious to know what these statistics are that are supposed to lead me to believe the offensive line won't be a problem this year.

 

[Idgit]

Arkin was very good in the Cardinals game. He only had 1 bad play.

If anyone concluded that Arkin can't play, it's not because they watched the Cardinals game. It's because they had come to the conclusion prior to that game.

In fairness, though (and you're right), his one bad play was a drive-ender. And the kind of thing he'd see a steady diet of if he were starting for us for any stretch.

 

[Idgit]

People forget how bad Romo is when pressured up the middle. So I say it's a damn pressing need

This was the same RG we had last season when Romo threw for 4900 yards. And we upgraded the other two interior OL position. I'd say the need is a lot less pressing than it was.

 

[FiveRings]

I'm still confident in the line. You don't need high profile, former All-Pro guards as long as the guys you have work in unison. Cohesion is the most important part of NFL lineplay

 

[xwalker]

In fairness, though (and you're right), his one bad play was a drive-ender. And the kind of thing he'd see a steady diet of if he were starting for us for any stretch.

It just find it interesting that his 1 bad play was not due to his reported lack of strength. He just stayed on the initial block too long and the stunting DE was able to get past him.

He had a 2nd play that initially looked bad, but upon slow-motion review, the RB tripped him and Arkin actually made a very impressive recovery to maintain his block while falling down.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

This was the same RG we had last season when Romo threw for 4900 yards. And we upgraded the other two interior OL position. I'd say the need is a lot less pressing than it was.

I see the connection you are trying to make, but I don't think the fact that Romo threw for 4,900 yards means the offensive line was necessarily good, or even serviceable.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It just find it interesting that his 1 bad play was not due to his reported lack of strength. He just stayed on the initial block too long and the stunting DE was able to get past him.

He had a 2nd play that initially looked bad, but upon slow-motion review, the RB tripped him and Arkin actually made a very impressive recovery to maintain his block while falling down.

I really like Arkin's progress. It stands to reason that he will continue to get better with more experience. Players tend to regress after injury, layoffs, and age. He has none of those issues and to the contrary is quite young.

 

[Rockport]

Also, he's not going to be starting.

This angst over the RG position is unbelievable. There are contenders with holes at LT that get less attention than our RG position receives. The RG we're trotting out there is the same guy we played last season. We addressed two other starting positions on the line this offseason and have seen nothing but improved play (whatever that's worth) in three offseason games. I don't get it.

I wonder what game he watched. Leary's play, the little he's played, has been an upgrade over last year. Arkin has played ok but lets be real, he's an adequate backup for a game or 2 at best. I have no faith in Bernadeau at all.

I'm still expecting the Cowboys to have a new starter, who is not curretnly on the team, opening against the Giants

 

[Rockport]

I see the connection you are trying to make, but I don't think the fact that Romo threw for 4,900 yards means the offensive line was necessarily good, or even serviceable.

You are correct. It's a combination of things. The Cowboys propensity to pass due to the lack of ability to run the ball. Also, a general offensive philosophy favoring the pass. Being behind in games also.

 

[Lonestar94]

People forget how bad Quarterbacks are when pressured up the middle. So I say it's a damn pressing need

Fixed

 

[Zordon]

It is what it is, this team as much as they want to yap about "Romo Friendly", doesn't value the oline as much as other positions. It's sad we're less than a month away from the 2013 season starting and we're begging linemen to come out of retirement to save us. It's sad and embarrassing what this line has been since the purge after the 2010 season.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

It is what it is, this team as much as they want to yap about "Romo Friendly", doesn't value the oline as much as other positions. It's sad we're less than a month away from the 2013 season starting and we're begging linemen to come out of retirement to save us. It's sad and embarrassing what this line has been since the purge after the 2010 season.

Considering we've spent more resources on the oline than any other team over the last three seasons, your argument is baseless.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

It is what it is, this team as much as they want to yap about "Romo Friendly", doesn't value the oline as much as other positions. It's sad we're less than a month away from the 2013 season starting and we're begging linemen to come out of retirement to save us. It's sad and embarrassing what this line has been since the purge after the 2010 season.

I don't remember this being the case if "we" refers to the Cowboys.

 

[CoCo]

Really tired of all the media and others who just want to pile on. I agree that I wish we'd done more though cap-wise we are really limited. Not at all thrilled we picked a TE in Rd 2 or CB in Rd 4 instead of O-line. But its done and I've moved on.

Love that Frederick looks like a solid fix. Love that Leary looks to have stepped up at LG. Looks like Free may have found his way back. Like that Arkin looks to have grown enough to at least be a reliable backup. All that is progress. I even like that we did try to get Moore and Waters to come in.

So if we get and stay healthy we're fine at 4 of 5 spots with Bernie & Arkin to get us through at RG.

 

[NEODOG]

This was the same RG we had last season when Romo threw for 4900 yards. And we upgraded the other two interior OL position. I'd say the need is a lot less pressing than it was.

And we went 8-8
Lost on last play of season on pressure up the middle.... Bad interior OL play

 

[ScipioCowboy]

It is what it is, this team as much as they want to yap about "Romo Friendly", doesn't value the oline as much as other positions. It's sad we're less than a month away from the 2013 season starting and we're begging linemen to come out of retirement to save us. It's sad and embarrassing what this line has been since the purge after the 2010 season.

The issue here isn't that the Cowboys front office doesn't value the offensive line. The Cowboys don't spend any fewer resources on the offensive line than any other team does. To me, it's more an issue of not evaluating line talent very well, especially at guard. Unfortunately, the latter is a far more troubling issue than the former.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

Considering we've spent more resources on the oline than any other team over the last three seasons, your argument is baseless.

Is that actually true?

I'm not so much concerned about the team's motivations. Whether they intentionally ignore the offensive line, or they really try to fix it but are just too inept to do so, is really irrelevant. The end result is all that matters.

 

[Zordon]

Considering we've spent more resources on the oline than any other team over the last three seasons, your argument is baseless.

Where is the proof?