Sturm's McFadden breakdown

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I'm just here to give people information and filter out some of the media nonsense for people that don't have the time or desire to do it themselves.

While at the same time attempting (and failing) to judge the merits of others' opinions. What a public service!

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Would the Cowboys have an opinion on a draft pick if they had never watched his game footage?

It is not me deciding anything. It is common sense that if someone is going to evaluate a player they need to have seen that player play.

Sure sounds that way when you're trying to undermine the opinions of others. Maybe you should have gone for the English degree instead?

I don't think I'm smarter than everyone. I just think I'm smarter than you and a couple of knuckleheads that go around posting emotion nonsense that can't be backed up with facts.

When all else fails take personal shots.

Wow, see your own post above this one. The one with the word "knuckleheads". Hypocrite.

I said Parnell was good. Other people said he sucks and should be cut. In the end he got a contract that was over 2x Free's contract in total and guaranteed money.

Yeah, from arguably the worst team in the league. One with a ton of cap space they had to use on somebody. But Parnell wasn't the only guy they vastly overpaid. A team that lousy has to vastly overpay to get anyone to go there.

FYI - I didn't watch McFadden on "youtube". There is something called game film also known as the All-22 which is what I use to review NFL players.

I've heard of it. There are also numbers called stats for those of us who do have a life...
 

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@stasheroo Randy Moss had 500 yards and 3 TD's his last year at the Raiders. His very next season he had 1500 yards and 23 TD's. Was that his fault or the Raiders? And please do not try to counter my argument with "You're comparing McFadden to Moss?" The point im making is that when you're on a garbage team it can infect you.

Moss had a history of not giving 100%. He sure didn't give it all when playing in Oakland. Moss was healthy, but lazy. He gave good effort with the Pats for s while and he was sent packing when he returned to his lazy ways. I don't think DMac is lazy. I think his body can not hold up much like Sean Lee. I have seen some good RBs play for worse teams than Oakland and that didn't stop them from playing well. The Raider's excuse is used to justify his poor play. Another factor is that he don't run very well in a zone blocking system. I see excuses are already being given as why that shouldn't be held against him. Excuses, excuses, excuses. From your previous post, it is easy to notice a trend that you will defend any Dallas player just because he is on the team. Emotions hamper your sight at times and you have to give excuses to justify your position. Has it occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, he is not that good of a player. He has a lot to prove if he can even make the roster. Combine him and Williams and it keaves 50% of the RBs that has more chance of limping through the season while dealing with injuries than producing at a level high enough to help the team. Now please, no more excuses. The man should be accountable for his failures instead of his failures being everybody's fault other than himself.
 

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Yeah, from arguably the worst team in the league. One with a ton of cap space they had to use on somebody. But Parnell wasn't the only guy they vastly overpaid. A team that lousy has to vastly overpay to get anyone to go there.
They could have paid the OT from Green Bay instead of Parnell (Bulaga) but choose Parnell.

They have new management on that team so trying to use their past to downgrade their decision making abilities is nonsense. The Head Coach was one of the primary architects of the Seattle defense. Their GM was with the Colts when they won a super bowl and was with the Falcons in a period where they had a resurgence.



I've heard of it. There are also numbers called stats for those of us who do have a life...
Using stats your way shows Joseph Randle to be a much better player than DeMarco Murray.

YPC in 2014
Randle 6.7
Murray 4.7
 

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They could have paid the OT from Green Bay instead of Parnell (Bulaga) but choose Parnell.

Did they? Or did Bulaga choose instead to stay in Green Bay for the opportunity to both get paid and compete for a championship? Much like teammate Randall Cobb, he turned down bigger offers elsewhere for an opportunity to win.

They have new management on that team so trying to use their past to downgrade their decision making abilities is nonsense. The Head Coach was one of the primary architects of the Seattle defense. Their GM was with the Colts when they won a super bowl and was with the Falcons in a period where they had a resurgence.

If you want to go over the roster in a search for talent, we can do that. But it's an exercise in futility. They're still a mess and at best the 3rd best team in their own sorry division. That sad franchise isn't worth the time it would take to talk about it. They're irrelevant, and now, so is Parnell. But he's getting (over)paid...

Using stats your way shows Joseph Randle to be a much better player than DeMarco Murray.

YPC in 2014
Randle 6.7
Murray 4.7

Reductio ad absurdum
 

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I'm just here to give people information and filter out some of the media nonsense for people that don't have the time or desire to do it themselves.


Would the Cowboys have an opinion on a draft pick if they had never watched his game footage?

It is not me deciding anything. It is common sense that if someone is going to evaluate a player they need to have seen that player play.


I don't think I'm smarter than everyone. I just think I'm smarter than you and a couple of knuckleheads that go around posting emotional nonsense that can't be backed up with facts.



When all else fails take personal shots.

I said Parnell was good. Other people said he sucks and should be cut. In the end he got a contract that was over 2x Free's contract in total and guaranteed money.

FYI - I didn't watch McFadden on "youtube". There is something called game film also known as the All-22 which is what I use to review NFL players.

What creditials do you have to think that you are more accurate with your opinions than Sturm that has good connections with the team and players ? I read about your education and that you watch entire game films because you decided that is the way you like to spend your money. Many of us has very little emontional attachment to any of these players , so it is easy to form an unemotional opinion that can easily rival yours. In the past you have dismissed the media, but they know more about the team than any of us. That is their job. They have creditials . There is a couple mediots, but what are your creditials that make your views more correct than a guy like Sturm? In reality, you are just another fan with opinions that spends the money for the coaches game film. Guess what, guys like Sturm has access to film as well. Posters on this board have views that are just as accurate as yours. I supported Parnel over Free due to his upside and youth. We agree on that topic. The worst thing about the NFL's decision to sell game film is that several posters now think they are on the same level as people that work in the pro football business. There are weekly threads started by posters that bought film that now feel like they have the creditials to feed the board info and they get defensive when they are called out on it. You do a good job providing some stats and info for this board. I wouldn't really agree that it is your job to decide if the media is feeding the readers BS. Adults can usually make those decisumions themselves , even without game tape. Nothing personal , just an observation.
 

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Did they? Or did Bulaga choose instead to stay in Green Bay for the opportunity to both get paid and compete for a championship? Much like teammate Randall Cobb, he turned down bigger offers elsewhere for an opportunity to win.



If you want to go over the roster in a search for talent, we can do that. But it's an exercise in futility. They're still a mess and at best the 3rd best team in their own sorry division. That sad franchise isn't worth the time it would take to talk about it. They're irrelevant, and now, so is Parnell. But he's getting (over)paid...



Reductio ad absurdum

Jax could easily have money whipped Bulaga but didn't even try.

The bottom line is that posters like you said that no NFL professional would agree with me when I said he was a really good player. The fact now is that some NFL professionals indeed did agree with me.

You're reaching by trying to downgrade the NFL professionals with terrific resumes just because they are now working for a team with a losing history. They people that made the decision to sign Parnell are not the people that caused Jax to be a bad team for many years.

The current Jax roster is irrelevant.

Whether or not they overpaid him is irrelevant when they easily could have signed Bulaga instead. Parnell got paid more than Bulaga and Jax had plenty of cap space to have paid Bulaga even more than they paid Parnell if they had wanted to go in that direction.

The bottom line is that you posted nonsense in regards to McFadden and can't back it up. Now you're trying to divert by focusing on Parnell.

"Reductio ad absurdum" is not relevant in this situation. Using Randle's ypc compared to Murray's ypc is exactly the same thing that Sturm was doing. It is not an absurd example. It a direct example.
 

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Jax could easily have money whipped Bulaga but didn't even try.

The bottom line is that posters like you said that no NFL professional would agree with me when I said he was a really good player. The fact now is that some NFL professionals indeed did agree with me.

You're reaching by trying to downgrade the NFL professionals with terrific resumes just because they are now working for a team with a losing history. They people that made the decision to sign Parnell are not the people that caused Jax to be a bad team for many years.

The current Jax roster is irrelevant.

Whether or not they overpaid him is irrelevant when they easily could have signed Bulaga instead. Parnell got paid more than Bulaga and Jax had plenty of cap space to have paid Bulaga even more than they paid Parnell if they had wanted to go in that direction.

The bottom line is that you posted nonsense in regards to McFadden and can't back it up. Now you're trying to divert by focusing on Parnell.

"Reductio ad absurdum" is not relevant in this situation. Using Randle's ypc compared to Murray's ypc is exactly the same thing that Sturm was doing. It is not an absurd example. It a direct example.

Stop preaching walker. They aren't ready to receive yet.
 

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Jax could easily have money whipped Bulaga but didn't even try.

And you know this for a fact how, exactly?

The bottom line is that posters like you said that no NFL professional would agree with me when I said he was a really good player. The fact now is that some NFL professionals indeed did agree with me.

The bottom line is that I never said Parnell was a bad player. But I never lost my mind over him like you did either. I'm in the middle. I saw an OK player who got way overpaid, and I'm glad it's not Dallas doing it.

You're reaching by trying to downgrade the NFL professionals with terrific resumes just because they are now working for a team with a losing history. They people that made the decision to sign Parnell are not the people that caused Jax to be a bad team for many years.

And the guys you're trying to prop up have done little to nothing to change the Jaguars' fortunes either. And overpaying for good players won't help that.

The current Jax roster is irrelevant.
The whole franchise is.

Whether or not they overpaid him is irrelevant when they easily could have signed Bulaga instead. Parnell got paid more than Bulaga and Jax had plenty of cap space to have paid Bulaga even more than they paid Parnell if they had wanted to go in that direction.

And Bulaga had the option to stay in Green Bay. And he did. Maybe it's more important to be relevant in the league than to just get paid?

The bottom line is that you posted nonsense in regards to McFadden and can't back it up. Now you're trying to divert by focusing on Parnell.

No, I brought him up because you're obsessed with him, and attacking Doug Free at every opportunity, even unrelated topics. And to give some back to you for coming off high and mighty and holier than everyone else whose opinions 'don't matter'.

"Reductio ad absurdum" is not relevant in this situation. Using Randle's ypc compared to Murray's ypc is exactly the same thing that Sturm was doing. It is not an absurd example. It a direct example.

It's exactly relevant. You're trying (and failing) to compare Sturm's analysis to Randle's number of carries. It's apples and oranges and everyone knows it.

Sturm has his sample size. No matter how much that it might hurt your feelings.
 

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Jax could easily have money whipped Bulaga but didn't even try.

The bottom line is that posters like you said that no NFL professional would agree with me when I said he was a really good player. The fact now is that some NFL professionals indeed did agree with me.

You're reaching by trying to downgrade the NFL professionals with terrific resumes just because they are now working for a team with a losing history. They people that made the decision to sign Parnell are not the people that caused Jax to be a bad team for many years.

The current Jax roster is irrelevant.

Whether or not they overpaid him is irrelevant when they easily could have signed Bulaga instead. Parnell got paid more than Bulaga and Jax had plenty of cap space to have paid Bulaga even more than they paid Parnell if they had wanted to go in that direction.

The bottom line is that you posted nonsense in regards to McFadden and can't back it up. Now you're trying to divert by focusing on Parnell.

"Reductio ad absurdum" is not relevant in this situation. Using Randle's ypc compared to Murray's ypc is exactly the same thing that Sturm was doing. It is not an absurd example. It a direct example.

What evidence do you have to support the excuses used for DMac? The only thing that any of us have to support our opinions is the facts and his history. At this moment, the doubters have much more to support the expectations of DMac being a bust in Dallas which is just a carryover from his Oakland days. The injuries have already started. There is no denying that. There is no reason to believe that he will stay healthy. His injury history can not be dismissed. As a football fanatic , you should be the first to admit that based on his history that he has a lot to do to prove everybody wrong. He was considered a bust by Acowboy fans until he signed with them. That change of heart is driven by emotions. It isn't driven by anything else. Are you willing to admit that he has to prove that he is worthy of making the roster unless he has a 180 degree turn around in his career?
 

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Moss had a history of not giving 100%. He sure didn't give it all when playing in Oakland. Moss was healthy, but lazy. He gave good effort with the Pats for s while and he was sent packing when he returned to his lazy ways. I don't think DMac is lazy. I think his body can not hold up much like Sean Lee. I have seen some good RBs play for worse teams than Oakland and that didn't stop them from playing well. The Raider's excuse is used to justify his poor play. Another factor is that he don't run very well in a zone blocking system. I see excuses are already being given as why that shouldn't be held against him. Excuses, excuses, excuses. From your previous post, it is easy to notice a trend that you will defend any Dallas player just because he is on the team. Emotions hamper your sight at times and you have to give excuses to justify your position. Has it occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, he is not that good of a player. He has a lot to prove if he can even make the roster. Combine him and Williams and it keaves 50% of the RBs that has more chance of limping through the season while dealing with injuries than producing at a level high enough to help the team. Now please, no more excuses. The man should be accountable for his failures instead of his failures being everybody's fault other than himself.

It's not excuses, if its a fact. At no point in a decade, no running back has been pro-bowl material coming from that black hole known as Oakland. And once this season is halfway over, and you're wrong you're gonna hide behind the "well I hoped that I was wrong" veil, instead of trashing one of our new players how about he gets a chance, when just last year we picked up a "washed up" player from this VERY SAME team, and he turned out to be arguably our best defensive player. And no I don't defend every Dallas player, I hate Nick Hayden, don't know what pictures of Marinelli he has that are causing him to not be cut, and I think he is a waste of a roster space. I am very disappointed in Claiborne and I hope he finds some way to be good this year, when a player is a disappointment I have no problem calling them out on it. I'm not hampered by emotions, but you have such a negative connotation that you put the horse before the cart and assume the worst about what is gonna happen, and that is evident in your posting history. But im not gonna keep replying on this, we will see who is right once the season starts, and if you're right and he sucks then ill eat the crow and admit you were right.
 

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What creditials do you have to think that you are more accurate with your opinions than Sturm that has good connections with the team and players ? I read about your education and that you watch entire game films because you decided that is the way you like to spend your money. Many of us has very little emontional attachment to any of these players , so it is easy to form an unemotional opinion that can easily rival yours. In the past you have dismissed the media, but they know more about the team than any of us. That is their job. They have creditials . There is a couple mediots, but what are your creditials that make your views more correct than a guy like Sturm? In reality, you are just another fan with opinions that spends the money for the coaches game film. Guess what, guys like Sturm has access to film as well. Posters on this board have views that are just as accurate as yours. I supported Parnel over Free due to his upside and youth. We agree on that topic. The worst thing about the NFL's decision to sell game film is that several posters now think they are on the same level as people that work in the pro football business. There are weekly threads started by posters that bought film that now feel like they have the creditials to feed the board info and they get defensive when they are called out on it. You do a good job providing some stats and info for this board. I wouldn't really agree that it is your job to decide if the media is feeding the readers BS. Adults can usually make those decisumions themselves , even without game tape. Nothing personal , just an observation.

I have no problem with your opinion. My posts are intended to give people and alternative to the Media. It is up to the reader to decide if my posts have any value to them.

I do most likely have better credentials in regards to stats than most media people. I have a college degree in Mathematics. That seems like a better credential than a Journalism degree on the topic of statistics.

Sturm tied to use stats in a method that is invalid. I'm certain that you know that the majority of the time when people try to use stats to prove their point, they most often gerrymander the stats to their advantage in a way that would not be done by a real statistical analyst. The phrase "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." was coined for this exact reason over 100 years ago.

As I said previously, Sturm's contention that the backups were better based on small sample size stats is exactly the same as if I said that Randle is better than Murray because he had a 6.7 ypc compared to a 4.7 ypc for Murray. It is common knowledge that small sample sizes for stats for a player are not valid information. Sturm tired to add together multiple Non-Valid pieces of information to come up with once piece of Valid information. I'm sure you can see that is not really reasonable.

Sturm uses the same method to access the All-22 that I use. He does not have a football background. He does not work for the Cowboys Flagship station. Broaddus is the only media guy that has access to the same coaches film that is available to the coaches. He does allow some of the guys from the Flagship station to come over to VR and view it with him, but Sturm is not in that crew. He is their competition.

In terms of NFL players, I have access to all of the coaches film going back to about 2011. The difference in what the coaches have is in terms of cut-ups. They can pull up all plays a specific type for a specific player and watch them in sequence. The All-22 in which I have access does allow some sorting but it is limited. I can do a search for all runs by McFadden in 2014 and watch them in sequence. I can't search for something like all pass blocks by McFadden.

One of my general points has been that if somebody has an adamant opinion that they are going to continually repeat on a message board, that they should at least have an informed opinion. I'm not referring to someone just saying "I think ...". I'm referring to someone that will continue to argue a point back and forth but have never actually done the work to be informed on the point.

If I both review Sturm's article AND I watch McFadden's game footage then I am more informed than someone that has only reviewed the article. I'm not saying that makes me correct, but it gives me a much higher probability of being correct than someone that is not informed.
 

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What evidence do you have to support the excuses used for DMac? The only thing that any of us have to support our opinions is the facts and his history. At this moment, the doubters have much more to support the expectations of DMac being a bust in Dallas which is just a carryover from his Oakland days. The injuries have already started. There is no denying that. There is no reason to believe that he will stay healthy. His injury history can not be dismissed. As a football fanatic , you should be the first to admit that based on his history that he has a lot to do to prove everybody wrong. He was considered a bust by Acowboy fans until he signed with them. That change of heart is driven by emotions. It isn't driven by anything else. Are you willing to admit that he has to prove that he is worthy of making the roster unless he has a 180 degree turn around in his career?

If you follow all of what I've said, then you would see that I didn't say he was definitely good. I said that there is no proof that he was bad because you can't determine if he was the problem or if Oakland's OL and lack of passing threat was the problem. The Sturm article was not well done.

One take on is that he is bad until be proves he is good. My take is that the Cowboys have been doing really well in recent years in terms of scouting and signing players and they liked him.

My own reviews have not found anything to make be think he can't succeed other than injuries.

My biggest concern with McFadden is injuries; however, I also would have been very corned with injuries if Murray had stayed. Last season was Murray's only season to remain healthy. Now, after being over-used last season the probability of injury or decline is even higher for Murray. The history of RBs that carried the ball that much has not been good in the following seasons and many of them didn't have significant prior injury issues like Murray did.
 

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And you know this for a fact how, exactly?
They had cap space, he was a free agent that signed after Parnell was signed, they didn't even make an offer to Bulaga.

Can't you use any common sense?


The bottom line is that I never said Parnell was a bad player. But I never lost my mind over him like you did either. I'm in the middle. I saw an OK player who got way overpaid, and I'm glad it's not Dallas doing it.
Over paid is irrelevant. They chose to sign him instead of at least offer Bulaga a contract.

And the guys you're trying to prop up have done little to nothing to change the Jaguars' fortunes either. And overpaying for good players won't help that.
What was Garrett's record after his 1st year?

No, I brought him up because you're obsessed with him, and attacking Doug Free at every opportunity, even unrelated topics. And to give some back to you for coming off high and mighty and holier than everyone else whose opinions 'don't matter'.
So because some people run around screaming that the sky is falling and I like to use logic to make counter points, that makes me "holier than everyone"???

It's exactly relevant. You're trying (and failing) to compare Sturm's analysis to Randle's number of carries. It's apples and oranges and everyone knows it. Sturm has his sample size. No matter how much that it might hurt your feelings.
It is not statistically relevant. If it was, then my comparison would also be relevant. You can't have it both ways other than in fantasy land.
 

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It's not excuses, if its a fact. At no point in a decade, no running back has been pro-bowl material coming from that black hole known as Oakland. And once this season is halfway over, and you're wrong you're gonna hide behind the "well I hoped that I was wrong" veil, instead of trashing one of our new players how about he gets a chance, when just last year we picked up a "washed up" player from this VERY SAME team, and he turned out to be arguably our best defensive player. And no I don't defend every Dallas player, I hate Nick Hayden, don't know what pictures of Marinelli he has that are causing him to not be cut, and I think he is a waste of a roster space. I am very disappointed in Claiborne and I hope he finds some way to be good this year, when a player is a disappointment I have no problem calling them out on it. I'm not hampered by emotions, but you have such a negative connotation that you put the horse before the cart and assume the worst about what is gonna happen, and that is evident in your posting history. But im not gonna keep replying on this, we will see who is right once the season starts, and if you're right and he sucks then ill eat the crow and admit you were right.

I have never avoided posting after being wrong. In this case, I am not worried at all about being wrong. You call me negative. I say I am a realist . Yes, your emontions play s big part in your opinions. You blindly support any player that the team signs. I could give you a long list of players that I expressed the reality of their lack of talent. I have been wrong on very, very few of those players. Overall , the team does not have many bad players that will see the field. At the Arab position, the underwear thief is the only hope u less you put your hope on the two cripples or Dunbar, who is hyped up every offseason, but never plays dnough to produce much. I hope you have enough football knowledge to know that comparing DMac and Rolando is not possible. Rolando is young with upside, when/if he finally decides to become a great player and commits himself, he could be a heck of a player. Anyone that knows that situation is aware of his lack of commmitment. That is the reason teams were not lined up to sign him to s big contract. His love for the game is questionable. DMAc is an injury prone, bust that has shown that he struggles behind a zone blocking scheme . He is not hard to bring down and he is a limited straight line runner, or at least he was. Again, stop with the excuses for the guy. At some point he has to be accountable for his poor play. I have little doubt that he is wasting a roster position. I hope at at Dallas can find a young RB that can run with power and have some upside when cuts start during preseason. You mentioned your dislike for Mo. I was blasted on this board the day that he was drafted for being negative and not agreeing with the team. Most of the posters that gave me a hard time now agrees with me. I hope that the RB position is fixed, but it won't be because of DMac. I will not change my mind until he proves me wrong. I sure don't make excuses for him and I never will. The entire NFL could have went after him during free agency, but those teams seem to share my opinion. Are you going to create a thread saying that you was wrong about DMac and that your judgement is impaired by your emotions? I don't think you will.
 

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I just want to see what he can do behind this offensive line before I can say he's not the answer.
 

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And you know this for a fact how, exactly?
They had cap space, he was a free agent that signed after Parnell was signed, they didn't even make an offer to Bulaga.

Can't you use any common sense?


Sure. When I see any I'll let you know. Green Bay kept the free agents they wanted to keep. And bot Bulaga and Cobb wanted to be there, playing in a great place, for a great team, one with an actual chance to win. There's your "'common sense".

The bottom line is that I never said Parnell was a bad player. But I never lost my mind over him like you did either. I'm in the middle. I saw an OK player who got way overpaid, and I'm glad it's not Dallas doing it.
Over paid is irrelevant. They chose to sign him instead of at least offer Bulaga a contract.

You have no idea what anybody did or didn't offer anyone.

And the guys you're trying to prop up have done little to nothing to change the Jaguars' fortunes either. And overpaying for good players won't help that.
What was Garrett's record after his 1st year?

In what universe is this relevant? Now you want to try to make some connection with this? Keep grasping.

No, I brought him up because you're obsessed with him, and attacking Doug Free at every opportunity, even unrelated topics. And to give some back to you for coming off high and mighty and holier than everyone else whose opinions 'don't matter'.
So because some people run around screaming that the sky is falling and I like to use logic to make counter points, that makes me "holier than everyone"???

It's when you get sanctimonious, pompous, and arrogant and have the nerve to tell anyone what value has merit and what one doesn't. That's when.

It's exactly relevant. You're trying (and failing) to compare Sturm's analysis to Randle's number of carries. It's apples and oranges and everyone knows it. Sturm has his sample size. No matter how much that it might hurt your feelings.
It is not statistically relevant. If it was, then my comparison would also be relevant. You can't have it both ways other than in fantasy land.

Sturm's collected data offers a more than large enough sampling to be valid. You just want to discount it because it hurts your feelings. Too bad. He made his case and supported it, deal.
 

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I have never avoided posting after being wrong. In this case, I am not worried at all about being wrong. You call me negative. I say I am a realist . Yes, your emontions play s big part in your opinions. You blindly support any player that the team signs. I could give you a long list of players that I expressed the reality of their lack of talent. I have been wrong on very, very few of those players. Overall , the team does not have many bad players that will see the field. At the Arab position, the underwear thief is the only hope u less you put your hope on the two cripples or Dunbar, who is hyped up every offseason, but never plays dnough to produce much. I hope you have enough football knowledge to know that comparing DMac and Rolando is not possible. Rolando is young with upside, when/if he finally decides to become a great player and commits himself, he could be a heck of a player. Anyone that knows that situation is aware of his lack of commmitment. That is the reason teams were not lined up to sign him to s big contract. His love for the game is questionable. DMAc is an injury prone, bust that has shown that he struggles behind a zone blocking scheme . He is not hard to bring down and he is a limited straight line runner, or at least he was. Again, stop with the excuses for the guy. At some point he has to be accountable for his poor play. I have little doubt that he is wasting a roster position. I hope at at Dallas can find a young RB that can run with power and have some upside when cuts start during preseason. You mentioned your dislike for Mo. I was blasted on this board the day that he was drafted for being negative and not agreeing with the team. Most of the posters that gave me a hard time now agrees with me. I hope that the RB position is fixed, but it won't be because of DMac. I will not change my mind until he proves me wrong. I sure don't make excuses for him and I never will. The entire NFL could have went after him during free agency, but those teams seem to share my opinion. Are you going to create a thread saying that you was wrong about DMac and that your judgement is impaired by your emotions? I don't think you will.

McFadden is less than 2 years older than McClain.
 

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Sure. When I see any I'll let you know. Green Bay kept the free agents they wanted to keep. And bot Bulaga and Cobb wanted to be there, playing in a great place, for a great team, one with an actual chance to win. There's your "'common sense".

The bottom line is that I never said Parnell was a bad player. But I never lost my mind over him like you did either. I'm in the middle. I saw an OK player who got way overpaid, and I'm glad it's not Dallas doing it.


You have no idea what anybody did or didn't offer anyone.

And the guys you're trying to prop up have done little to nothing to change the Jaguars' fortunes either. And overpaying for good players won't help that.


In what universe is this relevant? Now you want to try to make some connection with this? Keep grasping.

No, I brought him up because you're obsessed with him, and attacking Doug Free at every opportunity, even unrelated topics. And to give some back to you for coming off high and mighty and holier than everyone else whose opinions 'don't matter'.

It's when you get sanctimonious, pompous, and arrogant and have the nerve to tell anyone what value has merit and what one doesn't. That's when.

It's exactly relevant. You're trying (and failing) to compare Sturm's analysis to Randle's number of carries. It's apples and oranges and everyone knows it. Sturm has his sample size. No matter how much that it might hurt your feelings.


Sturm's collected data offers a more than large enough sampling to be valid. You just want to discount it because it hurts your feelings. Too bad. He made his case and supported it, deal.

Again, your posts are all emotion without logic and you don't do the work to be informed.

The bottom line is that for his article to be valid, then the same logic has to be true in regards to Randle being much much better than Murray because of his far superior ypc. His logic would also indicate that the Raider's running game without McFadden in the game was better than the best rushing team in the league.
 
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