Suh might win appeal?

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I didn't think he would or should be suspended in the first place. I don't think that there is definitive proof of intent.

What is your reaction when you step on something unexpectedly?

Nothing at all, like this clown?

I don't think so.

And what would your reaction be to someone pushing against the back of your leg?

Nothing?

Again, I'll call shenanigans to that.

He betrays his intentions by his lack of reaction.
 

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What is your reaction when you step on something unexpectedly?

Nothing at all, like this clown?

I don't think so.

And what would your reaction be to someone pushing against the back of your leg?

Nothing?

Again, I'll call shenanigans to that.

He betrays his intentions by his lack of reaction.

Agreed. He didn't even flinch.
 

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Yeah, his reaction after not only stepping on Rodgers' ankle but getting punched on his calf by him, was to just walk away pretending nothing happened.

He also puts all his weight on that foot instead of naturally doing the opposite.

GUILTY AS CHARGED.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.
It goes further than that. He stepped on him twice and the second time he lifted up the other foot so all his weight would be on the one inbedded into Rodgers leg. That shows his intent. Who steps on something off the ground and leans onto it rather than lean on the foot that is on solid ground? He could argue that it wasn't intentional if he did it once and stopped and said my bad I didn't see you. Then he could have gotten off with a fine. But to do it twice and lean all his weight on to the leg and then never react at all to Rodgers even when Rodgers pushed him from behind? It's unbelievable he has so many apologists.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.

I think a jury of his peers would find him guilty. That isn't going to happen but it was pretty clear that the second step and weight shift was intentional.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.

No way I want him in Dallas. He'll cost a ton and is no more reliable than someone who has already been suspended for banned substance/illegal drugs. He's one misstep from a multigame ban and with his history it's not a matter of "if", but "when". Kind of like the Lions are facing right now. Hell of a time (for Detroit) for him to pull that crap, and he'll do it again. He can't help himself.
 

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The action you all are describing as intent is the normal process of taking a step. Your weight shifts to one foot and you step forward with the other bearing all your weight in the foot not taking the step.
 

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The vibe on twitter and internet now is that Suh is gonna walk on this. Fwiw. There is a detroit reporter that has twitter feed that updates about as fast as possible: https://twitter.com/davebirkett Last info was that the appeal hearing is over and they are waiting on official word.
 

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The action you all are describing as intent is the normal process of taking a step. Your weight shifts to one foot and you step forward with the other bearing all your weight in the foot not taking the step.

One step back and your heel lands on something other than the ground, so you take another step back makes sense.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.

His lack of reaction might not prove intent, which I doubt, but it sure does betray a lack of conscience, empathy, respect, awareness and class. What Sapp said about him having to be called back to team headquarters to give a press conference after a prior misconduct episode really shows the man not realizing or caring how his actions on the field impacts either his team or opposing team members. He is a habitual offender, and each year he has committed sometimes multiple infractions (ending in fines). Whatever the fine ends up being for the Rodgers incident will surely push him over $300k in fines since 2010. He was fined a total of around $150k last year for 3 separate incidents. His reputation as the least-liked and dirtiest player won't improve with what has just happened.
 

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The action you all are describing as intent is the normal process of taking a step. Your weight shifts to one foot and you step forward with the other bearing all your weight in the foot not taking the step.

Did you type that without thinking? Laughing as you typed it? That is so far away from reality.


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It's not that it's cowboys it really isn't bc Martin Frederick and Leary are insanely good at pass pro. It's just messed up what he tried to do and that's like his 4th strike
 

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Told everyone what was going to happen. If it was a regular season game or a two game suspension, he would not play. The one game suspension left the arbitrator nowhere to meet in the middle expect a large fine with no suspension just as I said.
 

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I get what you all are saying, I really do. You think his lack of reaction proves intent but an argument could be made for him just being so focused he didn't realize what happened. Just saying his intent can't be proven and it isn't like the stomp before. There is a gray area and before you suspend someone I think you should have definitive proof of intent.

It's all good though him not playing benefits Dallas. I'm ok with that and unlike many of you Id welcome him in Dallas.

Umm...Kind of like when your at the bar with your wife.
The next thing you know, your fist "accidently" smashes the nose of the guy next to you. Later, "Hey officer, there was no intent and I was so focused on the music, my fist just swung to a *****in guitar riff and this guys nose got in the way. Ohhh and just coincidental it was the same guy who pinched my wife's *** moments earlier".
The Officer and barkeep helped me understand how to collaborate that story (of no intent) to walk away. Case closed.
The only other question from the officer was " What song was it"? I answered David Bowie, Ziggy Stardust. His response, "great tune".
 
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