Suh might win appeal?

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Frankly I think him using his butt *** to knock Rodgers down and even the first step were intentional. But Standing on a guys leg is what deserves a suspension tho get out of here with that mess

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

This is what I am expecting. When they made it a 1 game suspension, they didn't leave any room for a reduction to anything except a fine. If it had been a two game suspension, they could have lowered it to 1 game. Now they can only lower it to a fine which is what seems most likely to me since they can't say 100% it was intentional and this is a playoff game.

It was 100% intentional that's not even a question

 

[Bullflop]

The commish and his advisers have rendered a decision that has been roundly supported by the media and the public as a whole. I can't see them capitulating to the wishes of the NFLPA simply because he happens to be one of their own. It's difficult at best to present a case that could reasonably be considered viable. I'd be shocked, to say the least, if that decision is overturned, especially in view of the vast support it has received.

 

[Stash]

This is what I am expecting. When they made it a 1 game suspension, they didn't leave any room for a reduction to anything except a fine. If it had been a two game suspension, they could have lowered it to 1 game. Now they can only lower it to a fine which is what seems most likely to me since they can't say 100% it was intentional and this is a playoff game.

Why can't they?

 

[Cowboys22]

It was 100% intentional that's not even a question

While I agree, we do not have to face the media and try and prove that. How are the people that do supposed to prove 100% it was intentional? The easiest thing for them to do is reduce it to a fine and have it go way.

 

[Cowboys22]

Why can't they?

There is no way to say 100%. I agree I think it was intentional but have no idea how you prove it. The easiest thing to do is reduce it to a fine and have it go away.

 

[Stash]

While I agree, we do not have to face the media and try and prove that. How are the people that do supposed to prove 100% it was intentional? The easiest thing for them to do is reduce it to a fine and have it go way.

And reducing the punishment for a second offense will help it to 'go way'?

It will be yet another case of the NFL fumbling the ball.

Another black eye they don't need.

 

[Smith22]

While I agree, we do not have to face the media and try and prove that. How are the people that do supposed to prove 100% it was intentional? The easiest thing for them to do is reduce it to a fine and have it go way.

They play on a flat football field. It is almost impossible to step on a player twice and not stumble, lose your balance, etc. And why didn't he bother to check and see who was laying on the ground?

He is a dirty player and has no business being in the league.

 

[Bullflop]

Why can't they?

Exactly right -- it's a judgment call and the commish and his office has the right and authority to make it stick.

 

[Stash]

There is no way to say 100%. I agree I think it was intentional but have no idea how you prove it. The easiest thing to do is reduce it to a fine and have it go away.

They've proven it already, when they suspended him the first time.

Heck, he proved it when he stepped on him not once, but twice.

And followed it up by never looking back.

He sealed his own fate.

I know what a person does when they step on something accidentally, and so does everyone else.

And that's not what Suh did, therefore meaning it was intentional and not accidental.

 

[Stash]

Exactly right -- it's a judgment call and the commish and his office has the right and authority to make it stick.

One step? Maybe an accident.

Two steps? Intentional.

Never acknowledging it? Strike three, he's out.

 

[speedkilz88]

 

[Cowboys22]

And reducing the punishment for a second offense will help it to 'go way'?

It will be yet another case of the NFL fumbling the ball.

Another black eye they don't need.

Sure it will. No one will still be talking about it by Friday if he is going to play. If he is suspended, it will be talked about from now until the game is over and if Dallas wins, for a few days after that. How is the NFL fumbling the ball? They suspended him. If it is reversed, it will be by and independent arbitrator, not the NFL. It is out of the NFL's hands at this point.

 

[Stash]

Sure it will. No one will still be talking about it by Friday if he is going to play. If he is suspended, it will be talked about from now until the game is over and if Dallas wins, for a few days after that.

If it's upheld today, it will be largely forgotten, as the vast majority of people will feel they got it right. Will it be mentioned? Sure. But not for all the wrong reasons.

How is the NFL fumbling the ball? They suspended him. If it is reversed, it will be by and independent arbitrator, not the NFL. It is out of the NFL's hands at this point.

No, you're right on that count, but it will still reflect poorly on the NFL as a whole and its' seeming inability to properly handle any of these issues.

 

[Cowboys22]

They play on a flat football field. It is almost impossible to step on a player twice and not stumble, lose your balance, etc. And why didn't he bother to check and see who was laying on the ground?

He is a dirty player and has no business being in the league.

I said I agree but put yourself in the shoes of the arbitrator. He has to make the final decision and the stakes are huge. We are talking about a playoff game and he has an easy way to punish him but still allow him to play, thus, appeasing both sides. I simply suspect he will take that easy solution.

 

[JohnsKey19]

One step? Maybe an accident.

Two steps? Intentional.

Never acknowledging it? Strike three, he's out.

I agree with you. Given the intentional act on the field and his history, there is absolutely no valid reason to change the punishment. But this could be one of those under the table type trade-offs b/t the NFLPA and NFL where this punishment is lessened to only a fine.

 

[viman96]

The arbitrator needs to uphold the suspension. Suh is a dirty punk.

I have not checked but each time Suh has done this were the Lions losing the game?

 

[gmoney112]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if John Ma-- errr Roger Goodell decided Suh's suspension would upset the "competitive balance" in their game with the Cowboys.

 

[Cowboys22]

If it's upheld today, it will be largely forgotten, as the vast majority of people will feel they got it right. Will it be mentioned? Sure. But not for all the wrong reasons.

Come on. If its upheld, it will be the top storyline surrounding the game until its over. If the Cowboys win, we will hear about Suh through Wed.

 

[Smith22]

I said I agree but put yourself in the shoes of the arbitrator. He has to make the final decision and the stakes are huge. We are talking about a playoff game and he has an easy way to punish him but still allow him to play, thus, appeasing both sides. I simply suspect he will take that easy solution.

There is absolutely no reason to change the NFL's decision, unless they want to ADD to his penalty.