T.O.s departure means more work for the RBs

[Avenging Hayseed]

Well, TRIED to go into work but still have a pretty good cold going on, heck with it, I mights well battle it out in here... Here the deal when it comes to Running/passing. First off........Running is most important. Lets get that straight right now as it is one of the universal TRUTHS in football. Having said that, yes of course the passing game is important,.....when it works in tandem with the rest of the offense. Far less BAD things "negative plays' can happen when you run the ball. Less turnovers too. Running the ball also has a very demoralizing effect on a defense, wears them down to the point where they ROLL OVER in the 4th quarter. It also helps open up the passing game, playaction, ect ect. It helps you to control the clock which wears the opponents defense down and keeps yours fresh for passrushing later in the game. And heres another BIGGY.......It helps with the field position game WITHIN A GAME. That field position game is a HUGE part of success in football. Even if you are punting , eventually that field position will swing to the point where YOU are now playing on a short field and your opponent is playing on a long field. VERY important. Remember the old saying in Golf? Drive for show, putt for dough? Same thing in football....Pass for show, RUN for a championship. We only need look at the THREE blinkie winning teams we put out in the 90's as evidence of this universal TRUTH of football...LOL

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

If we end up being in a position where we run the rock an average of 28 times a game next season EVERY single Cowboys fan is going to end up being VERY HAPPY regardless of how they feel right now about the whole run/pass issue. They will be happy because it will mean we are winning a TON OF GAMES the RIGHT way. What do I mean by winning the right way? Simply this.....Regular season wins are great and all, but what they really are is a setup for a playoff run. The playoffs, thats where the leather hits the concrete. Wanna win in the playoffs? Then you better be able to run the ball because the type of teams you are gonna be facing are complete, you cant run the rock against them your a dead duck. To say nothing of the potential for bad weather that has a huge negative effect on a passing game. GOT IT?....GET IT!

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

And finally, now to drop the BIG ONE that ends this debate between us run the rock guys and you sling it all over the field crowd........Go find me ANY championship level NFL coach who will refute what we run the ball guys are saying. Find us ONE. Most likely you wont. And if by rare chance you do find one he will be the exception not the norm. Not a doubt in my mind.....the alltime greats of this game who have actually accomplished something will agree with OUR side on this issue. BOMBS AWAY.......

 

[DallasEast]

And finally, now to drop the BIG ONE that ends this debate between us run the rock guys and you sling it all over the field crowd........Go find me ANY championship level NFL coach who will refute what we run the ball guys are saying. Find us ONE. Most likely you wont. And if by rare chance you do find one he will be the exception not the norm. Not a doubt in my mind.....the alltime greats of this game who have actually accomplished something will agree with OUR side on this issue. BOMBS AWAY.......

OH NOOOOOOOOOOO! Poor Buffaloooooo! :cry2:

 

[Vinnie2u]

TO's departure means less work for Dallas beat writers and BSPN....

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOO! Poor Buffaloooooo! :cry2:

..................LMBO! Can you imagine being poor Trent Edwards come next december?...LOL Here he is, sitting on a frozen tundra with a team that has only won four games thus far, and he has T.O screaming in his ear IM OPEN IM OPEN.....Never mind that the wind is whipping 90 miles an hour as the snow falls....Poor kids gonna need a lobotomy by the time the season is over!

 

[irvin4evs]

This thread doesn't take into account the fact that Garrett is a moron. I expect us to run the ball like this next year:

(per game)

Barber: 12 carries
Felix: 5 carries
Choice: 5 carries

When we should do it like

Barber: 8 carries
Felix: 10 carries
Choice: 10 carries

Or something similar.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

This thread doesn't take into account the fact that Garrett is a moron. I expect us to run the ball like this next year:

(per game)

Barber: 12 carries
Felix: 5 carries
Choice: 5 carries

When we should do it like

Barber: 8 carries
Felix: 10 carries
Choice: 10 carries

Or something similar.

..........If Garrett does that he IS a MORON. He wont though. Im sure of it, doesnt make any sense. Id be very happy with a breakdown like this.....12 carries for Barber, 12 for Felix, and throw a bone to Tashard by giving him 4 carries. Puts us at 28. Right about where we wanna be to produce WINNING playoff football.

 

[Doomsday101]

..........If Garrett does that he IS a MORON. He wont though. Im sure of it, doesnt make any sense. Id be very happy with a breakdown like this.....12 carries for Barber, 12 for Felix, and throw a bone to Tashard by giving him 4 carries. Puts us at 28. Right about where we wanna be to produce WINNING playoff football.

Personally I would not set a particular number for the backs, I would go by effectiveness of a back within the game more than I would a set number. There may be some games that I would feed the ball more to Barber than Jones and vice versa depending on how each back is producing within that game.

 

[irvin4evs]

..........If Garrett does that he IS a MORON. He wont though. Im sure of it, doesnt make any sense. Id be very happy with a breakdown like this.....12 carries for Barber, 12 for Felix, and throw a bone to Tashard by giving him 4 carries. Puts us at 28. Right about where we wanna be to produce WINNING playoff football.

Barber has done nothing to warrant more carries than Choice. Felix I can see, but Choice has already done more impressive things than Barber has.

I know Choice doesn't supply the theatrics and explosions that Barber does, but he sure as hell beats him when it comes to production.

Personally, I'd give Choice and Felix the ball the most until Barber shows he's back to his 2007 form. Even then, I still would give Choice and Felix as many carries.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Personally I would not set a particular number for the backs, I would go by effectiveness of a back within the game more than I would a set number. There may be some games that I would feed the ball more to Barber than Jones and vice versa depending on how each back is producing within that game.

.................I totally agree with you. I just thru out a random number as an example. Each game will be different. In the end if we can average around 28 carries a game for the season we are going to be very successful.

 

[Doomsday101]

.................I totally agree with you. I just thru out a random number as an example. Each game will be different. In the end if we can average around 28 carries a game for the season we are going to be very successful.

I would like to see us do that as well. As often as I hear some same today’s game is different I still see the same keys to winning and being a team who can run the ball consistently is still a key component

 

[MWILL]

You act as if there will be zero passing game. McNabb doesn't have a Roy Williams, doesn't have a Jason Witten, and yet still puts up very good passing yards. He has probably the worst bunch of WRs in the league, and if he can be successful, than I think Romo can be successful when you look at the weapons he has. We have Roy, Witten, Crayton, Austin, Barber, Jones, and Choice, and we don't even know if we will add anyone else via free agency or draft. And really, if you look at our players on offense, you can make a very good comparison to a team that just recently won a super bowl....the Giants.

I'd like to see us run some more, but I don't think our WRs are mediocre.

They don't have Garrett as a offensive coordinator. That's one reason why the Eagles are successful.

 

[MWILL]

I get the distinct feeling that SOME fans would have actually preferred we get rid of Romo, Witten, and Garrett to keep a 36 year old DECLINING receiver that has been KICKED out of every NFL team he has ever been on. Oh yeah, real brilliant stuff there. Yep....all good teams do things like that.. Sarcasm off.

Nope. Just Garrett.

I wish he took another job, but NOBODY would hire him. Wonder why?:choke:

 

[koolaid]

........Are you trying to say that T.O made Tony Romo? LMAO! Get real, learn a little something about the history of actual championship level WINNING FOOTBALL. There are decades worth of proof that would say you are dead wrong. Its is the QB that makes the w.r, not the other way around in most cases. Actually, when it comes to the 4 skill positions on offense....QB, R.B, WR, and TE......W.R comes in 3rd on the list of overall importance in relationship to winning football. NFL GMs would agree as thats how salaries are slotted in most cases. Now.....heres something thats VERYtelling. T.O is almost 36 years old. That means he has 1 or 2 LEGIT seasons left in him. T.O has said over and over again he wants a chance at a ring. I believe him too. Yet.........he signed with the Bills where he has ZERO shot at a ring. This tells the world that NONE of the contending teams wanted him. For if they did, he would be with one of them today instead of lining up for the Bills. Just the truth of it.

i feel what your saying, but do you really think Kurt Warner would have half the success in Arizona he's had w/o fitz? Every situation is different.

 

[khiladi]

You act as if there will be zero passing game. McNabb doesn't have a Roy Williams, doesn't have a Jason Witten, and yet still puts up very good passing yards. He has probably the worst bunch of WRs in the league, and if he can be successful, than I think Romo can be successful when you look at the weapons he has. We have Roy, Witten, Crayton, Austin, Barber, Jones, and Choice, and we don't even know if we will add anyone else via free agency or draft. And really, if you look at our players on offense, you can make a very good comparison to a team that just recently won a super bowl....the Giants.


I'd like to see us run some more, but I don't think our WRs are mediocre.

And the difference between the Eagles and the Cowboys is their offensive coaching..

 

[TheBeast]

Far too many of the younger fans havent had a chance to see what real NFL football looked like in the not so distant past. D.B's of the modern era have been totally hamstrung by the league office. They did this to promote passing/scoring, which leads to more excitement, which leads to more fans, which leads to MORE MONEY. With these new rules NFL defenses have been forced to change how they defend w.r's. Nowadays ZONES are far more the norm then they EVER were in the past. This allows w.r's to run unaccosted thru open holes in a zone defense. REAL BIG CHALLENGE THERE... I bring this up to make a point. In most cases it is the QB that makes the W.R, not the other way around. NFL gm's, you know, the guys that ACTUALLY BUILD NFL teams would seem to overwhelmingly agree with me too based upon how salaries are slotted for different positions. Ever notice how SO CALLED game changing w.r's always seem to have bigtime QB's throwing them the ball? Ever notice how certain teams like say Chicago never seem to have any bigtime receivers? Its because they dont have the elite QB dummy!...LOL Ever notice what happens to w.rs that have big years playing with great QB's and leave in freeagency only to go to teams without a good QB? They usually do SQUAT. Alvin Harper/Javon Walker, I could go on and on. Take Tom Brady for instance........VERY pedestrian receiving corp yet he won trophy after trophy. The one year he did have a so called elite w.r they lost...Ironic isnt it. My point in all this? Its wayyyyyyyyyyy more about the Q.B then it is about the W.R. Not even close in fact. Were gonna be just fine without T.O. Heck,.....when considering the 4 skill positions on offense Qb, RB, W.R and TE, W.r comes in THIRD on the list for overall importance in relationship to WINNING games. Some may disagree with me, fact is.......History and the ACTUAL FACTS support my case.

Good grief.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Good grief.

..............Thats all fine and good. But if the person doesnt know what they are talking about all you end up with is a "pretty" essay with zero substance. Myself, im alot more about content then I am about grammar or structure. BTW.....That line of thinking is what led this country down the woeful path we are on. Everything LOOKED just peachy on PAPER, but in the end none of these Wallstreet rocket scientists knew what the H they were actually talking about. SUBSTANCE over structure........

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Lemme guess.........HEY! Theres a guy who's opinion I dont like. Gee, I cant actually refute it or anything, but because I dont like it I'll TRY and draw attention away from the facts contained in it by drawing attention to bad grammer/structure. Hey yeah.....thats the ticket!....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Roy and Witten is a pretty good duo

and then you have Crayton in the slot

hopefully Austin stretching Ds out wide

and it's not all bad