Taco is Michael Strahan?

[DFWJC]

Look at both players' combine numbers.

And let me know when backflips make someone better at football.

Yeah, I know it was a circus act.
But he just seemed so much more explosive.
I hear ya though

 

[Doomsday101]

Too early to know what Taco is or isn't. His 1st pre season outing was not good but then I also think you learn more from failure than you do from success. Charlton will be able to go back and look at things he did wrong and things he needs to do a much better job at. For me before I come down on this kid I will give him the time to show what he is or isn't.

 

[JeffInDC]

I don't see it. He would need some sort of modified version of invisalign and even then it would take time.

 

[adbutcher]

No wonder our fanbase is the laughing stock of the league. We are comparing Taco salad to HOF Strahan.

Comments like this makes us a laughing stock. He didn't compare Taco to the HOF Strahan, he compared him to a rookie Strahan. I can see the similarities as I played against him in college. Taco played like a player that was thinking about his keys. He will be ok once he just plays and stop thinking and playing.

 

[bsbellomy]

I had that Shante Carver,Kavika Pittman feeling in my gut the second his name was called in the draft. I'm rarely wrong about a player but I dang sure hope I'm wrong about this.

Gotta love COUCH guy who to toots his own horn about how "he could do it better than the pros".

 

[jterrell]

No wonder our fanbase is the laughing stock of the league. We are comparing Taco salad to HOF Strahan.

good lord.. people are daft.
not sure why this is hard to grasp and i didn't have time for a dissertation...
point being, strahan was drafted on potential and requisite athletic traits... same as taco.
he was also a big DE.
Any player reaching Strahan status needs health and luck.
But being similar to him early in the career is actually very common and likely for Taco.

Taco has traits that take time to fully flesh out so will likely not be a star year 1.
He is not the very polished joey bosa but far more micheal strahan.
Which is why bosa went op 5 and taco went late 20s.
Strahan was actually round 2.

Giants Director of Player Personnel Tom Boistune's Director's Report on Strahan:
(compiled from reports by scouts Jerry Shay, Jeremiah Davis, Greg Gabriel)

A tall, gd looking athlete who needs bulk &additional stg for next level--He has plenty of QAB's spd & change of direction to be a VG pass rusher--No reason why he can't grow into a power rush, neutralize & control LOS type--An upfield player for Texas So/not a leverage player & runs self out of too many plays--Michael is agg & works hard in pursuit--Potential to be a top player in NFL--A situational pass rusher 1st yr-Sr Bowl/Indy workout helped his grade.

Strahan was a 4.89 40 guy at 6'5" and 272 pounds.
Charlton was a 4.92 40 guy at 6'6" and 277 pounds.

From NFL.com scouting rpeoir ton Charlton:
Bottom Line
"Inconsistent" has been the buzzword that has followed Charlton since coming to Michigan, but he began the process of shaking it during his senior season. Charlton is an ascending prospect with the size, length, athleticism and pass-rushing potential that NFL general managers dream of. What you see today might not be what you get. While his production coming out of college will be modest, he could become a substantially better player as a pro if he's committed to the weight room and willing to absorb coaching. High-impact defensive end with all-pro potential is his ceiling. His floor is solid starter.

 

[jterrell]

Boss is the prospect who has come out in the pat decade most similar to Strahan.

No he's not.
Bosa was a top 5 pick and a fully polished product.

Strahan was not. Not even close.
Strahan had 18 sacks in his first 4 years in the league.. with 55 starts.
He was a run stopper first that developed into a stud pass rusher.

 

[jterrell]

Comments like this makes us a laughing stock. He didn't compare Taco to the HOF Strahan, he compared him to a rookie Strahan. I can see the similarities as I played against him in college. Taco played like a player that was thinking about his keys. He will be ok once he just plays and stop thinking and playing.

thank the tiny baby lord that someone gets the point.
largely that a guy like taco isn't done maturing physically.
really massive guys like this that lack insane 40 speed need to develop grown man strength, technique and know how.
that takes time.

and strahan was not considered much of anything until year 5 in the league.
perhaps because i played high school ball at the same time in the same state as strahan this makes more sense to me than most.
i also knew guys like hollis that played with him at texas southern.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

You thought Dak was overrated, a dink and dunker, and Wentz was actually a better player for most of last year.

You're not feeling good about it probably means he'll have an All Pro season.

 

[Hardline]

Gotta love COUCH guy who to toots his own horn about how "he could do it better than the pros".

Except I have a track record of being right. I'm not by no means an NFL guy but as someone who played the game and a student of the game I have more football knowledge than the casual fan.

 

[jazzcat22]

Strahan has 1 sack as a rookie.
Not exactly a high bar.

But Strahan developed with reps and gained strength, skills, stamina.

Taco has the requisite athleticism to be successful but he also lacks those other areas.
He has to get stronger, play harder, gain stamina and learn a variety of pass rush moves beyond his spin.

However, when Taco breaks the sack record for most in a year, he will do it legitimate. He won't have Favre taking a dive.

 

[Shuff]

Can we please see him play more than 2 series until we give him a grade?

 

[jazzcat22]

I had that Shante Carver,Kavika Pittman feeling in my gut the second his name was called in the draft. I'm rarely wrong about a player but I dang sure hope I'm wrong about this.

Maybe you should be a scout then, or at least stay at a Holiday Inn to make you feel like one.

 

[jterrell]

Except I have a track record of being right. I'm not by no means an NFL guy but as someone who played the game and a student of the game I have more football knowledge than the casual fan.

that applies to about 75% of the people here.
not many casual fans on here and virtually everyone from texas plays football. heck, my oldest daughter played flag.

you are entitled to your own opinion about nay player but any arguments to expertise are tilting at windmills at best.

 

[Hardline]

that applies to about 75% of the people here.
not many casual fans on here and virtually everyone from texas plays football. heck, my oldest daughter played flag.

you are entitled to your own opinion about nay player but any arguments to expertise are tilting at windmills at best.

I didnt claim to be an expert. I only claimed to be rarely wrong. But I'll put my football knowledge against anyone on this forum.
Hell. I can watch a game and guess what play is going to be ran and it happens nearly every time.

 

[DTown214]

This is a whole new level of optimism

 

[jterrell]

I didnt claim to be an expert. I only claimed to be rarely wrong. But I'll put my football knowledge against anyone on this forum.
Hell. I can watch a game and guess what play is going to be ran and it happens nearly every time.

No one is rarely wrong, not experts, not fans.
We are all wrong a lot.
It'd take me all of 5 minutes digging through your past threads to prove that applies to you as well but it'd be mean-spirited and pointless.

Taco was drafted to be a 2 way DE that can hold up versus the run and grow into a pass rusher.
Dallas could have taken a 240 pound edge rusher and chose not to each and every round.
When they did have those guys they put weight on them in earnest. See Gregory and Mayowa.
You don't need any scouting chops to pay attention to whats actually happening.
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with what the team is doing but they did win 13 games last year.

 

[xwalker]

Except I have a track record of being right. I'm not by no means an NFL guy but as someone who played the game and a student of the game I have more football knowledge than the casual fan.

You've been good at keeping that knowledge a secret.

 

[jazzcat22]

I didnt claim to be an expert. I only claimed to be rarely wrong. But I'll put my football knowledge against anyone on this forum.
Hell. I can watch a game and guess what play is going to be ran and it happens nearly every time.

Here is a challenge, the next game Saturday, give us the play before it happens. Call the defensive alignment also.

 

[Jake]

I can't get past the folks trying to label this kid a bust after 16 snaps.

Conversely, some are comparing Jaylon Smith to Von Miller before Smith even plays a snap in preseason.