Take a flyer on Jordan Palmer?

[Hostile]

Of all the QBs in this draft the one who I think is the best backup to Romo is Beck from BYU. Many of the same skills, smart, solid day 2 pick. I don't think we should rest on just adding a vet or keeping Baker. I'd like to see us have 3 QBs plus one on the practice squad.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I have heard Palmer is an interception machine, however if he's around in the 5th or 6th, why not.

 

[The Realist]

Of all the QBs in this draft the one who I think is the best backup to Romo is Beck from BYU. Many of the same skills, smart, solid day 2 pick. I don't think we should rest on just adding a vet or keeping Baker. I'd like to see us have 3 QBs plus one on the practice squad.

We agree again.

Great accuracy.

25 years old in his rookie year.

Could actually be a plus IMO.

 

[Alexander]

Keep in mind, Palmer hasn't played a lot of QB.

37 starts in three seasons isn't playing a lot of QB?

 

[silverbear]

You throw a lot of picks in college - will probably throw a lot in the pros.

Unless the REASON you threw a lot of picks is that you're quite inexperienced as a QB...

That's one problem that a player can outgrow, with a little more experience...

Sounds like a Farve wannabe.

And it would really suck to have a Brett Favre-type talent... LOL...

 

[silverbear]

Nuff said

Actually, you didn't say anything... but we have clearly established now that your knowledge of Jordan Palmer and the UTEP Miners is laughable...

No, Conference USA is NOT as bad as the WAC... and you SHOULD care that a quarterback was good enough to lead a perennial doormat to multiple bowl games... this is not a team that surrounds its quarterbacks with a horde of talented players...

Watch what happens to my Miners next year, without Palmer at the helm...

 

[The Realist]

Actually, you didn't say anything... but we have clearly established now that your knowledge of Jordan Palmer and the UTEP Miners is laughable...

No, Conference USA is NOT as bad as the WAC... and you SHOULD care that a quarterback was good enough to lead a perennial doormat to multiple bowl games... this is not a team that surrounds its quarterbacks with a horde of talented players...

Watch what happens to my Miners next year, without Palmer at the helm...

Is having knowledge of Jordan Palmer and the Miners anything to be proud of?

If so I guess you have that going for you.

King of the doormats.

Good for you.

Jordan Palmer equals Bledsoe minus the talent.

88 TD's vs 64 picks in his career.

Don't have the 4 year stats but 25 fumbles and 66 sacks first 3 years.

You've clearly established yourself as nothing but a homer.

 

[silverbear]

Is having knowledge of Jordan Palmer and the Miners anything to be proud of?

Well, if you're going to attempt a serious analysis of the player, it WOULD be nice if you know what you were talking about...

Jordan Palmer equals Bledsoe minus the talent.

Said the "expert" who didn't even know what freakin' CONFERENCE Palmer played in...

ROTFLMAO...

Don't have the 4 year stats but 25 fumbles and 66 sacks first 3 years.

Which tells us he wasn't getting much BLOCKING... but I guess that's his fault, too, eh??

You've clearly established yourself as nothing but a homer.

And yet, I'm the only one in this argument who actually knows what he's talking about... you looked up his stats, but obviously never went any further than that...

 

[The Realist]

Not a suprise that you are missing the point.

The conference.......WAC/C-USA doesn't make a difference because they are both mediocre.

The point is Palmer is a sack, pick, and fumble machine.

Dispute that, not if I happen to know or care what conference some doormat school is in.

 

[dbair1967]

I've only seen Palmer play a couple of times, but from those couple of times I didnt see anything in him to make me think this guy is even 1/4 the player his brother is...he definitely isnt someone who could come in and start immediately if soemthing happened to Romo...his best case is getting with a good QB coach somewhere and maybe in 4-5yrs, you'll see something...wouldnt surprise me if he ends up in NFL Europe, not this yr but next yr

David

 

[silverbear]

Not a suprise that you are missing the point.

Oh, I got your point... and my point is that while he has been sacked frequently, and has been prone to turnovers, both are caused by problems that are eminently correctable...

Give him a decent to good offensive line, and he won't get sacked near as much... but he's nowhere near a scrambler, and he never will be...

Give him some more EXPERIENCE, and he won't make the mistakes that come from not recognizing what's happening on the field...

Dispute that, not if I happen to know or care what conference some doormat school is in.

Calling UTEP a "doormat" school only reveals-- once more-- the depth of your ignorance about that team, the conference it plays in, and the Miners' players... that "doormat" school made a bowl game in their first season in C-USA... beyond that, you seem to have this comically simplistic view of draft-eligible players, in which the only way a guy can POSSIBLY be any good is if he played for a really good team...

Which means you'd make one uncommonly LOUSY general manager... sure am glad you're not involved in making decisions for my favorite team...

So just to help lessen your ignorance on this subject, let's take a closer look at what Palmer did his senior year... before we do, bear in mind that he had NO running game, the Miners averaged all of 57.6 yards per game rushing... they averaged 2.4 yards per carry...

But in spite of all that, Jordan completed 65.7 per cent of his passes averaged 299.6 yards per game passing, threw 26 TDs and 14 ints (in 429 pass attempts, or one in every 30.65 attempts, or 3.4 per cent of his passes)... that's almost a 2-1 TDs to ints ratio...

In case YOU'RE missing the point, your criticisms are based on what he's done his entire college career, but what you've either missed or ignored is that he's improved steadily each season... and the numbers he put up this year are very, very good, particularly when he had no running game supporting him, and opponents could tee off on him... IOW, he's getting STEADILY BETTER...

In 2004, he threw for 2818 yards, and put up a quarterback rating of 136.5... in 05, he threw for 3503 yards, and put up a QBR of 140.5... in 06, he threw for 3595 yards, and put up a QBR of 149.6... now, go make up a graph of those trends, and tell me where the arrow in pointing... LOL...

I do hope those aren't too many facts for you to grasp all at once...

Jordan Palmer has most of the same physical abilities as his big brother does, all he lacks is the latter's experience, and exposure to the top echelons of college football... of course, it's possible that he'll never be as good as Carson has become, but it's well within the real of possibility that he'll develop into a nice QB for some team... and he's not likely to cost that team a first day draft pick...

 

[The Realist]

If me calling UTEP a doormat team makes me ignorant, that would make you an IGNORANT HOMER since you used the term doormat first.

 

[Alexander]

I've only seen Palmer play a couple of times, but from those couple of times I didnt see anything in him to make me think this guy is even 1/4 the player his brother is...he definitely isnt someone who could come in and start immediately if soemthing happened to Romo...his best case is getting with a good QB coach somewhere and maybe in 4-5yrs, you'll see something...wouldnt surprise me if he ends up in NFL Europe, not this yr but next yr

David

Exactly.

If Carson was not his brother, he wouldn't get nearly the publicity. It is sad, but true. He's your run-of-the-mill developmental type. This talk of him threatening to be competing with the likes of Stanton, Kolb and Edwards is utterly ridiculous.

 

[silverbear]

If me calling UTEP a doormat team makes me ignorant, that would make you an IGNORANT HOMER since you used the term doormat first.

That's because there was a time, not so very long ago (before Mike Price), that UTEP was indeed a perennial doormat...

But that was then, this is now... and now, the Miners have been to bowl games two of the last three seasons...

Only someone with little working knowledge of football would call a team like that a "doormat"...

 

[silverbear]

Exactly.

If Carson was not his brother, he wouldn't get nearly the publicity. It is sad, but true.

Yes, it is...

He's your run-of-the-mill developmental type.

Yes, he is... but that might be EXACTLY what the Cowboys are looking for...

This talk of him threatening to be competing with the likes of Stanton, Kolb and Edwards is utterly ridiculous.

Gee, who's been saying THAT?? I know I've never said anything close to that...

 

[The Realist]

Exactly.

If Carson was not his brother, he wouldn't get nearly the publicity. It is sad, but true. He's your run-of-the-mill developmental type. This talk of him threatening to be competing with the likes of Stanton, Kolb and Edwards is utterly ridiculous.

It's called Stacy Andrews syndrome.