Talent For Trade?

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bbailey423;2878842 said:
to me this "too much talent" assesment is based on training camp reports....well guess what....I am sure EVERY team has the same stories coming out of training camp

How can we be deep at WR when we only have ONE wr that has ever caught over 50 balls in a season?
How can we be deep at Safety we we only have ONE who has ever played at an above average level in the NFL (Ken Hamlin)

What I hope we don't do...is cut a really good player to keep one of these sorry *** OL just for numbers sake

We are "deep" at some positions because we have more players at that position than we are going to be able to carry on the roster at that position.

It is very possible that we cut one or more players at receiver, cb/ss, te, and maybe other positions that will be picked up by another team who actually makes their final 53 man roster. Some teams have very little depth compared to the Cowboys.
 

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Verdict;2878857 said:
Since all of our starters are one injury away from not playing, I am sure that the league will let us carry 73 players on our roster instead of the usual 53. :rolleyes:

It is a numbers game .... for example we probably will not be able to carry more than say 5 receivers without going short at another position. Ogletree seems to be impressing, so if he does anything at all in the preseason, it is unlikely that he makes it to the practice squad. Stanback has potential, but he can't seem to stay healthy. I'm sure we would like to keep BOTH of these guys, but the odds are we won't unless we short another position.

This is one example of the numbers game that I'm talking about.

I agree. I don't think you keep 6 WR because you feel that one of the WR is better than one of the lineman because unless that 6th WR can fill in at the O-line position you will have some big problems going too short at O-line
 

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Hostile;2878543 said:
How could we have too much talent if we're barely going to achieve 9-7 again?

:bow:

What in the world was I thinking? LOL. We should just forfeit this season, implode our roster, and shoot for the #1 overall draft pick next year.

I'm not sure what I'm "rueing" exactly, but I am "rueing the day" at this very moment. Book it. LOL
 

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Verdict, we're not nearly as thin as some of the posts in this thread would indicate. I've posted a similar suggestion in other threads, though instead of for picks I was suggesting a marginal player at WR or DT (maybe) for a marginal player at OG from another team. I'd be all for adding depth at a position where we're thin in exchange for a player who's not going to make the roster anyway, if the opportunity presents itself.
 

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Verdict;2878443 said:
It looks like we might have "too much" talent at a few positions like WR, Safety/Corner and maybe tight end, as we may have more quality players than roster spots available. I think that barring injury we might be able to trade away a few players in exchange for next years draft picks.

Unless we go "long" at WR, a pretty good receiver is going to be cut. It looks like Hannah is probably not going to make the 53 man roster. Moreover, it looks like there is a glut of talent at corner/safety, although those guys might slide through to the practice squad.

Thoughts?

WR??

I would never think we had too much there. We're loaded at RB for sure, but injuries could change that in a hurry.
 

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DFWJC;2878894 said:
WR??

I would never think we had too much there.

I read some stuff about teams in the off-season being interested in Hurd -- certainly not enough to give up a 2nd rounder for him (that was his RFA tender) - but if someone steps up and takes the #4 WR from him then we'd likely move him and keep one of the scrubs at #5 (since #5 isn't going to be active for the games anyway). That's the only way I see the WR situation producing a pick
 

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AmishCowboy;2878823 said:
Surely you're joking, right?

let's be realistic:

if Witten goes down for the year in week 1, Bennett probably makes the pro bowl, or close to it. would put up very similar numbers with the same number of opportunities.

if Barber goes down for the year in week 1, not much drop off to Jones and Choice. he would be missed, but not a killer. we might even be better.

if one OL goes down for the year in week 1, the season is pretty much over. and all positions on the OL could use an upgrade.

good teams in all sports trade away players a year to early rather than a year too late.
 

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AbeBeta;2878900 said:
I read some stuff about teams in the off-season being interested in Hurd -- certainly not enough to give up a 2nd rounder for him (that was his RFA tender) - but if someone steps up and takes the #4 WR from him then we'd likely move him and keep one of the scrubs at #5 (since #5 isn't going to be active for the games anyway). That's the only way I see the WR situation producing a pick

Yeah, that sounds feasable.

I guess I consider all of our top 4 receivers to be decent with RW and Miles having upside. I just don't see it as deeply talented. I could see moving someone on the lower end if the value were there.

Under that scenario, who would be our WR4?
 

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DC5488;2878912 said:
let's be realistic:

if Witten goes down for the year in week 1, Bennett probably makes the pro bowl, or close to it. would put up very similar numbers with the same number of opportunities.

Hey KOOL-AID!!!!!

seriously kid, Bennett looks good but he is not going to come in and replace a TE who is the best TE in the league. Use your head.
 

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DFWJC;2878925 said:
Yeah, that sounds feasable.

I guess I consider all of our top 4 receivers to be decent with RW and Miles having upside. I just don't see it as deeply talented. I could see moving someone on the lower end if the value were there.

Under that scenario, who would be our WR4?

We'd be moving our 6 WR for essentially some other teams 10 OL if we were to do anything.
 

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DFWJC;2878925 said:
Yeah, that sounds feasable.

I guess I consider all of our top 4 receivers to be decent with RW and Miles having upside. I just don't see it as deeply talented. I could see moving someone on the lower end if the value were there.

Under that scenario, who would be our WR4?

Well, it would have to be the case that someone really stepped up. Ogletree or Stanback are the only options there - pretty unlikely scenario though. Keep in mind Hurd is a UFA next year and will get 1.5 mill this year ... so there is some motivation to move him if one of the other guys is close
 

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Hostile;2878543 said:
How could we have too much talent if we're barely going to achieve 9-7 again?
I agree. the TS is crazy. also that's a pretty cool new admin sign you there. I just wanna click on it but i can't lol
 

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Not overly talented at WR and Safety. More importantly, if people think we have excess talent in other positions having a guy like Hatcher, I rather keep the depth anyways. Hatcher is not getting cut. I'll give up Proctor in a heart beat for a ham sandwich though.
 

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Rampage;2879113 said:
I agree. the TS is crazy. also that's a pretty cool new admin sign you there. I just wanna click on it but i can't lol

Totally agree on the new Admin sign.
 

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Recievers - gawd let them play first -
I think all these nay sayers are going to be surprised -
I like both Austin an Hurd both have been here 4 years

so what he only caught 13 balls last year - for a 15 yard avg -

give him and Hurd some playing time


I think our fifth WR will be Ogletree

yep were doomed with recievers that have been here 4 years
 

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Every team has some talented bubble players at various positions that cannot afford to be kept, for various reason...usually just the numbers game.

Ours are nothing special and surely won't fetch any kind of trade offers above the 7th round.
 

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First off we're not loaded at any position other than RB and possibly CB.

So unless you're trading Choice or one of our top 3 Corners you're not likely getting anything.

No one is going to trade future picks for guys like Ogletree, Johnson, Watkins, etc. EVERYONE is going to cut down to 53. Absolutely everyone. And all those teams know that if they're really interested in one of your fringe players that you're going to be cutting them very soon. Why give away a future draft pick for someone that you're going to be able to pick up, without giving anything up, in a couple weeks?

Not going to happen.


Unless you start moving proven starters, or stars, you're not getting anything in trade at this point and time.
 

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Yeagermeister;2878701 said:
The only position we might be loaded at is RB and I think they still have a lot to prove.

i concur but the major 3 have shown great potential
 
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