Talking Cowboys 3.14 (Romo)

[erod]

When you've just argued that it's because his supporting cast is the best ever it is an absolute contradiction.

Herr herr he's only good because of the other guys on offense.
Herr herr he's going to suck next year.

You can't hold both of these positions without a severe level of cognitive dissonance.

Ron Leary is gone. Doug Free is gone. There will likely be an injury to one of the big three up front (those are just the odds). The running game will suffer from all that. Zeke could be suspended. Witten is getting really old. Dez is slowing down, too.

It's going to fall more on Dak this year to carry the load, not just play his role.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Ron Leary is gone. Doug Free is gone. There will likely be an injury to one of the big three up front (those are just the odds). The running game will suffer from all that. Zeke could be suspended. Witten is getting really old. Dez is slowing down, too.

It's going to fall more on Dak this year to carry the load, not just play his role.

Well that explains it slightly better. Of course predicting injuries to healthy guys is its own level of ridiculous. It's obvious that this is just another excuse to maintain your agenda. You literally believe entirely opposite things simply so you can bash the guy that replaced your boyfriend. You exposed it I consecutive posts and stepped right into a transparent trap but lack the discernment to recognize it before or after.

No fury like a woman scorned I guess.

 

[khiladi]

Matt Cassel would even look good in this offense!

To be fair, Matt Cassel would have been better if he didn't come in mid-season and had a whole off-season to prepare with the first-team offense, because Tony Romo was recovering from surgery and Linehan had time to tailor an offense around him instead of just going by Garrett's orders to throw a bunch of short, conservative dink and dunk passes. And with Zeke in the backfield...

I'm sure he'd get a few wins and not go winless..

 

[erod]

Well that explains it slightly better. Of course predicting injuries to healthy guys is its own level of ridiculous. It's obvious that this is just another excuse to maintain your agenda. No fury like a woman scorned I guess.

Just quit with that.

Defensive coordinators are sum*****es. They tear film up all offseason to find you're soft spots. You have to outgrow their gameplans, or you whither away like most of the others quarterbacks in history.

Dak would not have done what he did if he was in Philly, Cleveland, or pretty much anywhere else. He walked into a run-dominant offense with the best run-dominant personnel in the NFL. And to his ABSOLUTE credit, he had the uncanny leadership skills and self-confidence to manage this offense perfectly given his newness to the league.

The all time greats didn't do that. But then again, they were drafted in the top five picks on terrible football teams. The only other rookie who started that inherited a spot like this was Ben Roethlisberger, and he, too, was a bus driver QB his first season. Let's hope Dak follows in Big Ben's career path.

 

[NorthTexan95]

A seventh are you kidding me? Let him rot in dallas. We hold all the cards not Houston or Denver. Like Jerry said he doesn't have to release or trade him for a lousy 5M cap space.

I wouldn't trade him for a 7th. I'm just saying I don't think the issue is no one is offering anything. I think the issue is Jerry is asking for much more.

 

[DFWJC]

By all accounts, no exceptions, Romo has not raised one nagging complaint about everything that has gone down.

• In fact, Dak says he could not have possibly been more supportative and encouraging. Sure, like any real competitor, he wanted (and wants) to compete.
• But all last season, no whining or complaining. Just high-road support.
• And when the media frenzy was getting too loud and distracting, he did the concession speech to squelch it. And it did. (Still baffled how 2-3 people on this site saw that as a negative)
• And now, the word is he's fine to just wait this out for awhile. According to Jerry, Romo has not asked to speed this up.

 

[khiladi]

Try talking to a "Dak lover."

Logic and reason go out the window. This is true of some "Romo lovers" as well, but at least from what goes on at this site, and places like facebook (I know, it's not the place for intelligent debate), the Romo people generally put forth calm rational arguments whereas the Dak people just throw hate at Romo and try to tear him down as a player 95% of the time.

They bash Linehan if he happens to go away from Zeke for two minutes and the offense starts struggling. They love to qualify that as long as Linehan doesn't mess up and not feed Zeke and the team and Dak remains healthy (que the Romo excuse for keeping Dak in and Romo not playing) Dak will continue to do fine.

Of course they ignore the fact that much of the offenses success was because of Linehan tailoring the offense to Dak's strength in the first place and being pro-active in offensive philosophy, instead of 'taking what the defense gives them'.

It's not like Dallas was amongst last in the league in play-action when Garrett was running the show and Wade Phillips was trying to get a baby-sitter in Dan Reeves to teach Garrett how to use a running game.. oh, my bad.. that's what happened..

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ron Leary is gone. Doug Free is gone. There will likely be an injury to one of the big three up front (those are just the odds). The running game will suffer from all that. Zeke could be suspended. Witten is getting really old. Dez is slowing down, too.

Might as well cancel the season.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

By all accounts, no exceptions, Romo has not raised one nagging complaint about everything that has gone down.

• In fact, Dak says he could not have possibly been more supportative and encouraging. Sure, like any real competitor, he wanted (and wants) to compete.
• But all last season, no whining or complaining. Just high-road support.
• And when the media frenzy was getting too loud and distracting, he did the concession speech to squelch it. And it did. (Still baffled how 2-3 people on this site saw that as a negative)
• And now, the word is he's fine to just wait this out for awhile. According to Jerry, Romo has not asked to speed this up.

Pretty sure Romo wants to stay home in Dallas. His wife is from Texas (if I recall). So that is good reason for him not rushing to get traded or released.

 

[Kaiser]

Dak had a world-class OL and a passing game built on play-action and very rarely did teams 'blitz' other than out of desparation to try and force plays. The only game where teams really blitzed him from the start were the Giants and the Eagles in the second game and he struggled.

The factor is Zeke. The one year Romo had a similar RB behind him was 2014 and the team came within the Dez catch of being in the NFC championship game, even with a really subpar defense.

This stuff will go on for decades, I really don't get why people can't just say both Dak and Romo are good QBs and not try to tear down one or the other to support their opinion.

 

[ShiningStar]

Might as well cancel the season.

umm like last year some of us did, Surprise, we were right. This year isnt looking any better.

 

[ShiningStar]

The factor is Zeke. The one year Romo had a similar RB behind him was 2014 and the team came within the Dez catch of being in the NFC championship game, even with a really subpar defense.

This stuff will go on for decades, I really don't get why people can't just say both Dak and Romo are good QBs and not try to tear down one or the other to support their opinion.

throws some rolls at you

Because we can darn it.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

The factor is Zeke. The one year Romo had a similar RB behind him was 2014 and the team came within the Dez catch of being in the NFC championship game, even with a really subpar defense.

This stuff will go on for decades, I really don't get why people can't just say both Dak and Romo are good QBs and not try to tear down one or the other to support their opinion.

I think the difference is people say Dak's success was mainly due to his team, OL, RB, WRs/TE, etc. But when talking about Romo's 2014 season, a lot here say it was Romo that made that team successful. Not because of the OL, or Murray, or the WRs/TE, etc. I just don't understand when people say if Romo competed for the job this season, he'd beat out Dak easily. Like Dak's year was a fluke because of who he played with. And because Romo has all this game experience, Dak has no chance to win the job.

 

[jterrell]

I actually think it's stupid to release or trade him. Wake up people (not directed at you SL50, just in general). You have a rookie 4th round comp pick that took the league by storm. RG3 was figured out after he looked like he was going to have this division in his back pocket the next 10 years. I am not saying that Dak is the next RG3, I actually feel that Dak has an amazing future ahead and he is the real deal but it doesn't hurt to have insurance. I think Romo needs to stay on at least half of this season so that Dak can ensure this ball club that he is the real deal. Your not going to get a decent backup QB with a second round pick anyways so why not just wait and see.

thinking like is why he won't ever make camp as a Cowboy.

the team isn't going to drag itself through this type of muck and silliness.

Romo could be all world this year and it won;t matter cause his shelf life is up.
Same as a college coach wouldn't bench a true sophomore coming off a great freshman campaign even if the senior is back and healthy.
You have to plan for the future.
Dak is present and future.
Romo is past and whatever you can get from him on the way out of town.

 

[CowboyRoy]

There were no credible sources saying Cowboys were going to release Romo.

Mickey says there are 3 sides playing poker, Cowboys, Romo, and interested teams. And says Romo is stirring the pot from both sides. Says Romo goodbye speech was suggesting he had some place to go but views this as trying to drum up interest for himself.

Rob says he think Romo would rather retire then be Daks backup.

Speaking to Jerry on the bus at the combine, never got the feeling he was going to release Romo at the start of FA.

Jerry Quote on Romo situation at the combine
"We are in a situation in indy where we need to see some things happen. We need to read some tea leaves. We dont need to be overtly doing something, We dont need to that for cap room, we dont need to do that for anything."

He said back then that march 9th was never a self imposed deadline for Romo but nobody listened.

He's not going to start in Dallas.

Theres no hurry to get anything done with Romo.

Listen to what Jerry is saying, because when they mention sources, Jerry is usually the source.

Romo is not retiring. Think its easy to write a check back to the Cowboys for 10million Dollars?

Team seems to want kellen Moore on the Team because even SJ said we see us having Moore and Vet or Moore and a Rookie.

Like or not this is good business Dallas is doing.

I am proud of Jerry. It appears after all the bs he is doing what is right.

 

[Kaiser]

I think the difference is people say Dak's success was mainly due to his team, OL, RB, WRs/TE, etc. But when talking about Romo's 2014 season, a lot here say it was Romo that made that team successful. Not because of the OL, or Murray, or the WRs/TE, etc. Of course it wasn't all on Dak or Romo. Or the other extreme. I just don't understand when people say if Romo competed for the job this season, he'd beat out Dak easily. Like Dak's year was a fluke because of who he played with. And because Romo has all this game experience, Dak has no chance to win the job.

I agree with the first part, but in terms of this season had both QBs been healthy, would anyone really have said a healthy Romo as a four time Pro Bowl QB would be in a competition with a 4th round draft pick?

Dak had the best rookie season of any QB in NFL history, but even the Cowboys front office was surprised by that. If you remember the first preseason game it was clear Dallas was only giving Dak (and Showers) reps until they brought in a player like Cade McNown. The first preseason game was a shock to everyone and showed Dak was one of those players that is much better in game action than in shorts. Until that game no one was thinking about Prescott as the starting QB this year, the Cowboys FO included.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I agree with the first part, but in terms of this season had both QBs been healthy, would anyone really have said a healthy Romo as a four time Pro Bowl QB would be in a competition with a 4th round draft pick?

Dak had the best rookie season of any QB in NFL history, but even the Cowboys front office was surprised by that. If you remember the first preseason game it was clear Dallas was only giving Dak (and Showers) reps until they brought in a player like Cade McNown. The first preseason game was a shock to everyone and showed Dak was one of those players that is much better in game action than in shorts. Until that game no one was thinking about Prescott as the starting QB this year, the Cowboys FO included.

So Dak's success was because of who he played with? And if Romo played, that same success would be of him (not of who he played with)?

 

[jterrell]

Ron Leary is gone. Doug Free is gone. There will likely be an injury to one of the big three up front (those are just the odds). The running game will suffer from all that. Zeke could be suspended. Witten is getting really old. Dez is slowing down, too.

It's going to fall more on Dak this year to carry the load, not just play his role.

different doesn't mean worse.
leary is gone but cooper is re-signed to fill that role. may be worse but was a top 20 pick initially versus an UDFA.
free is gone but he was playing hurt and that spot was the softest on the OL last year. replacement looks to be young guy that had r1 grade.
yes zeke may get suspended but he's also likely a better player in year 2 especially given he improved throughout the season.
dak is likely a better player in year 2 especially given he improved throughout the season.
wrs are back and familiar with dak.

draft hasn't even occurred.
team can get better before week1.

 

[sean10mm]

Romo winning a competition in camp is worthless because he can't be trusted to survive an actual game. Or even just a preseason game. And if you can't survive an actual game, how pretty you looked in training camp doesn't mean a darn thing. So all the "open competition" talk is a joke. Romo isn't entitled to an open competition and he's not going to get it.

 

[khiladi]

I think the difference is people say Dak's success was mainly due to his team, OL, RB, WRs/TE, etc. But when talking about Romo's 2014 season, a lot here say it was Romo that made that team successful. Not because of the OL, or Murray, or the WRs/TE, etc. I just don't understand when people say if Romo competed for the job this season, he'd beat out Dak easily. Like Dak's year was a fluke because of who he played with. And because Romo has all this game experience, Dak has no chance to win the job.

Linehan doubled play-action usage with Dak as QB, so yes it was different and the passing game was built a lot more deception this year and the thread of Zeke and yes, it was actually Romo a lot more in 2014 than Dak this year...

Teams were stacking 8 and 9 in the box regularly this year..

And Romo was basically perfect in sub-freezing temperature in Lambeau on the road, during the playoffs.. and he brought the team back against Detroit, while the rest of the team was on the verge of choking it away..