Tap the Brakes on Dez! (Mid-Season Report)

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I just about threw up in my coffee when I somebody on this fine forum posted a thread suggesting Dez was the best receiver in the NFL.

A better question is how he can merit playing time when half the time he has zero clue about the plays and his responsibilities.

Look at the numbers from today's game:
Kitna when targeting anyone other than Dez: 30-36
Kitna when targeting Dez (All NFL, All Universe): 0-6

And Hostile laughably suggested that (and I quote) "Kitna just wasn't in synch with him."

Some of you are riding the Dez train just as it is heading completely off the tracks.

It's halfway through a season and Dez can't keep track even of the limited plays that he is assigned to know.

He is zigging when he should be zagging. He often doesn't get appropriate depth on his routes. He needs to be reminded before the play what he should be doing. Put simply: he doesn't put himself where a quarterback can reliably expect him to be when he's supposed to be there. Little wonder that Kitna was barking at him more than a time or two.

The kid is running around in diapers playing sandlot football and he has more enabling fans than there are Americans who over eat and drink on holidays.

This is one case where I sure miss the disciplinarian style of Bill Parcells. Hopefully JG can help this kid get serious about knowing his job.

If you want to watch an NFL offense that works...watch the Patriots. They operate with *consistent* precision...often even with less athletically talented players. There is zero tolerance in that culture for not knowing and doing your job.

The Randy Moss's of the world ultimately never win much for long. Disciplined players win a ton.

The reality: Roy Williams played a much better game today than Dez did.
 
T-RO;3718980 said:
I just about threw up in my coffee when I somebody on this fine forum posted a thread suggesting Dez was the best receiver in the NFL.

A better question is how he can merit playing time when half the time he has zero clue about the plays and his responsibilities.

Look at the numbers from today's game:
Kitna when targeting anyone other than Dez: 30-36
Kitna when targeting Dez (All NFL, All Universe): 0-6

And Hostile laughably suggested that (and I quote) "Kitna just wasn't in synch with him."

Some of you are riding the Dez train just as it is heading completely off the tracks.

It's halfway through a season and Dez can't keep track even of the limited plays that he is assigned to know.

He is zigging when he should be zagging. He often doesn't get appropriate depth on his routes. He needs to be reminded before the play what he should be doing. Put simply: he doesn't put himself where a quarterback can reliably expect him to be when he's supposed to be there. Little wonder that Kitna was barking at him more than a time or two.

The kid is running around in diapers playing sandlot football and he has more enabling fans than there are Americans who over eat and drink on holidays.

This is one case where I sure miss the disciplinarian style of Bill Parcells. Hopefully JG can help this kid get serious about knowing his job.

If you want to watch an NFL offense that works...watch the Patriots. They operate with *consistent* precision...often even with less athletically talented players. There is zero tolerance in that culture for not knowing and doing your job.

The Randy Moss's of the world ultimately never win much for long. Disciplined players win a ton.

EVERYONE STOP! Breaking news here!

A rookie is learning the game!

Holy Crap!

I gotta go tell someone!:cool:
 
I just wasted a minute of my life I Will never get back.. some "fans" are laughable.
 
T-RO;3718980 said:
I just about threw up in my coffee when I somebody on this fine forum posted a thread suggesting Dez was the best receiver in the NFL.

A better question is how he can merit playing time when half the time he has zero clue about the plays and his responsibilities.

Look at the numbers from today's game:
Kitna when targeting anyone other than Dez: 30-36
Kitna when targeting Dez (All NFL, All Universe): 0-6

And Hostile laughably suggested that (and I quote) "Kitna just wasn't in synch with him."

Some of you are riding the Dez train just as it is heading completely off the tracks.

It's halfway through a season and Dez can't keep track even of the limited plays that he is assigned to know.

He is zigging when he should be zagging. He often doesn't get appropriate depth on his routes. He needs to be reminded before the play what he should be doing. Put simply: he doesn't put himself where a quarterback can reliably expect him to be when he's supposed to be there. Little wonder that Kitna was barking at him more than a time or two.

The kid is running around in diapers playing sandlot football and he has more enabling fans than there are Americans who over eat and drink on holidays.

This is one case where I sure miss the disciplinarian style of Bill Parcells. Hopefully JG can help this kid get serious about knowing his job.

If you want to watch an NFL offense that works...watch the Patriots. They operate with *consistent* precision...often even with less athletically talented players. There is zero tolerance in that culture for not knowing and doing your job.

The Randy Moss's of the world ultimately never win much for long. Disciplined players win a ton.

The reality: Roy Williams played a much better game today than Dez did.

your analysis is mostly on target (but Roy turnover cost the game). I am shocked that Dez needs to be pointed to what side of field he should be lined up on still. But he is going to be an amazing talent...i think he just needs to focus tad more and little less on showing us how everyone was wrong on draft day.
 
It didnt even bother me that he was mad on the sidlines. He has more passion in one finger then some of our other players have in their entire body.


The only player to show up against the Giants the first time around. Lets not forget that. Everybody else quit for hte most part and Dez kept fighting. He can zig when He's supposed to Zag if He wants. They are double covering him for a reason...He's a straight BEAST!
 
LOL!

Oh brother.

While I thought it was silly for someone to suggest he's the best WR in the NFL right now, that is just plain crazy, for you to post this thread and suggest, in anyway, that he's somehow not a star on the rise cause of a bad game, as a rookie, makes you just as silly.

Probably more so.
 
Give T-RO a break. He's been waiting for a game like this all season, and I'm sure he's as giddy as a schoolgirl right now. Let's just let him enjoy the moment, because I get the feeling that there won't be too many more of these for him to enjoy.
 
Mid-season report after week 12?

More like "waiting until my angle fits" report.
 
I wasn't sure what was going on at the time since I was watching the game and had the sound muted so I could listen to the radio feed. All I seen was a lot of passion and when I seen Ray Sherman laughing as he sent him back into the game, I realized it was nothing more than a rookie learning experience. I can't imagine how great Dez is going to be in a couple of years. But I do know it's going to be a lot of fun to watch. :cool:

DallasDomination;3719081 said:
It didnt even bother me that he was mad on the sidlines. He has more passion in one finger then some of our other players have in their entire body.


The only player to show up against the Giants the first time around. Lets not forget that. Everybody else quit for hte most part and Dez kept fighting. He can zig when He's supposed to Zag if He wants. They are double covering him for a reason...He's a straight BEAST!
 
I dont know why they felt like the only way they could get him the ball today was to throw him a bubble screen or a back shoulder throw. The Saints were not even covering him when he was running quick slants. Kitna has been playing decent but he needs to know who his play makers are, the last 2 weeks he has taken Miles and Dez out of the game. ZERO targets for Dez the whole first half is a joke.
 
I must have missed something. I've heard Dez called the Cowboys best WR today by Troy & Buck but certainly not the best in the NFL. Dez has played great for a rookie, particularly a rookie who essentially was injuried the entire TC & many of the early games. As for his being confused, you better believe he is. Most rookie WRs, except for the very great ones, don't do zilch in their first season because of the difficulties in learning all the plays, how to read defenses & make adjustments. Even Irvin wasn't great in his rookie season.
 
AdamJT13;3719097 said:
Give T-RO a break. He's been waiting for a game like this all season, and I'm sure he's as giddy as a schoolgirl right now. Let's just let him enjoy the moment, because I get the feeling that there won't be too many more of these for him to enjoy.

I must have missed something. Does T-Ro not like Dez or something?
 
StylisticS;3719157 said:
I must have missed something. Does T-Ro not like Dez or something?

Before the season, T-RO created a thread and said "we'll be lucky if Bryant catches 25 balls for 400 (yards) this season," and he didn't take kindly to some people saying that his expectations were far too low, barring some sort of major injury to Dez.

Then he started challenging everyone to make predictions, and his were 29 catches for 450 yards and four touchdowns. Of course, Dez had surpassed all of those numbers by the ninth game of the season.

Here's the thread --

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183450
 

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