TBFC: A Few Quick Hits From Tuesday's OTA Practice

[Richmond Cowboy]

Buehler could die. He'd just be resurrected in a couple of days though.

Buehler was holding on his own kicks, he's that flexible.

Buehler > (Jack Bauer) X (Chuck Norris) X (Dos Equis Man)

 

[ethiostar]

Buehler was holding on his own kicks, he's that flexible.

Buehler > (Jack Bauer) X (Chuck Norris) X (Dos Equis Man)

:laugh2:

now you're pushing it.

 

[ethiostar]

Hey mods, on the title of this thread i credited DCBlog for the article by mistake, it is actually from http://www.truebluefanclub.com/blogs. In case you want to do something about it.

 

[28 Joker]

I think this will be the line they'll give Scandrick when Jenkins is named starter despite Scandrick being the better player.

Scandrick's value to the team as its' best slot corner may cost him the 'starter' title.

You mean "second best" slot CB.

Terence Newman is the best slot CB in the NFL and has been since 2005.

Orlando Scandrick is really good, but the master is number 41.

He's has been shutting down players like Donald Driver, Dallas Clark, Terrell Owens, Steve Smith, Santana Moss, and Jeremy Shockey for six years.

 

[28 Joker]

Was that Mike Jenkins that took Plaxico Burress all over the field and held him to 3-34-0 and had a pick six on him and Eli Manning?

Phillips is respecting Orlando Scandrick's talent by giving him some first team reps. It will be a competition. The nickel CB is really a starter anyway.

Mike Jenkins is a younger, faster, and bigger version of Asante Samuel, and he will win that job on his own blue-chip talent.

 

[Stash]

You mean "second best" slot CB.

Terence Newman is the best slot CB in the NFL and has been since 2005.

Orlando Scandrick is really good, but the master is number 41.

He's has been shutting down players like Donald Driver, Dallas Clark, Terrell Owens, Steve Smith, Santana Moss, and Jeremy Shockey for six years.

OK, but I think Newman is better than Scandrick outside, hence the team using Scandrick extensively in the slot last season.

I think the team will go the best role rather than best player route when making their decision.

 

[28 Joker]

OK, but I think Newman is better than Scandrick outside, hence the team using Scandrick extensively in the slot last season.

I think the team will go the best role rather than best player route when making their decision.

There certainly is a lot of flexibility for sure. Orlando Scandrick played really strong last year inside. If he keeps that up, Dallas may have the two best slot defenders in the NFL.

Mike Jenkins held up inside nicely last year, too. You can line him up inside on the bigger guys like Burress.

 

[Stash]

Was that Mike Jenkins that took Plaxico Burress all over the field and held him to 3-34-0 and pick had a pick six on him and Eli Manning?

Phillips is respecting Orlando Scandrick's talent by giving him some first team reps. It will be a competition. The nickel CB is really a starter anyway.

Mike Jenkins is a younger, faster, and bigger version of Asante Samuel, and he will win that job on his own blue-chip talent.

Your current opinion of Jenkins is much higher than mine.

I felt he had an up-and-down season and needs to rebound a bit from his 'olay' tackle attempt which sticks in many a fan's 'craw'.

That said, I hope you're right in the Samuel comparison.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Cowboys Expected To Release DB Battle, DL Tyler
Posted by jellis at 5/26/2009 2:58 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

The Cowboys are expected to make a couple moves to trim their roster to 80 players on Tuesday, by releasing safety Tra Battle and defensive tackle Casey Tyler.

Battle signed with the Cowboys last Nov. 26 after a stint on the Chargers practice squad. He appeared in five games, mostly on special teams, though he did play in an emergency role against Pittsburgh. The Cowboys were thin at the position late last season but addressed it heavily through free agency and the draft, making the 5-11, 173-pound Battle expendable.

A first-year free agent who was cut by New England last summer and didn't play in 2008, Tyler signed with the Cowboys after the NFL Draft in late April.

Both Battle and Tyler participated in Tuesday's OTA session.

-Josh Ellis

 

[WoodysGirl]

Hey mods, on the title of this thread i credited DCBlog for the article by mistake, it is actually from http://www.truebluefanclub.com/blogs. In case you want to do something about it.

No biggie. They're the same. Trueblue is the fan site to DC.COM.

I usually put DC.COM, because they're the same writers.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

*Hurd did take the field after the practice, working with snapper L.P. Ladouceur and kicker David Buehler on holding for field goals.

Was wondering who they thought about using since Brad is gone.

 

[ethiostar]

No biggie. They're the same. Trueblue is the fan site to DC.COM.

I usually put DC.COM, because they're the same writers.

Thanks WG.

 

[Noryb]

Your current opinion of Jenkins is much higher than mine.

I felt he had an up-and-down season and needs to rebound a bit from his 'olay' tackle attempt which sticks in many a fan's 'craw'.

That said, I hope you're right in the Samuel comparison.

I know there are a lot of people on this board who believe Jenkins didn’t have a solid year. Personally, for a rookie, I thought he had a decent year. Outside of that one play where he was obviously gun shy, can anybody be specific on a play or two that helped them come to this conclusion?

 

[28 Joker]

Your current opinion of Jenkins is much higher than mine.

I felt he had an up-and-down season and needs to rebound a bit from his 'olay' tackle attempt which sticks in many a fan's 'craw'.

That said, I hope you're right in the Samuel comparison.

Orlando Scandrick played very well last year for sure. He played well outside, too. (ex. see him covering Braylon Edwards outside in game one and playing outside when Newman was inside) I fully expect Scandrick to pick up where he left off. He's a good looking player and runs a 4.32 and has great tools or blue-chip skills or talent. He did a great job on T.J. Houzmendzada when they lined him up in the slot. He took care of the Giants' Steve Smith, inside and outside (at Dallas).

There were times last year where Jenkins was lined up inside and Newman and Scandrick were lined up outside (see the second Giants game).

However, Mike Jenkins' play in the Tampa Bay game was very, very good. Plus, it has been forgotten or ignored by some fans or media. Jenkins showed his mettle in that game; and remember, he's the guy that wasn't getting as many reps as Scandrick. Jenkins showed his mettle in the Tampa Bay game and proved he was ready to keep growing as a starter. His play on Plaxico Burress is not recognized by people like Tim MacMahon. Holding Burress to a 3-34-0 and a pick 6, in your third NFL start, was outstanding. Jenkins covered him (lined up on him) all over the field that day.

Phillips praised Mike Jenkins' play in December or the end of the year and said that he played really well (see the 2nd Washington game, Giants game, and Ravens game).

Scandrick seems to be the fan favorite, and that's fine. I like him, too.

If Jenkins doesn't make a play, on that bomb, in the first Eagles game, Dallas doesn't win that game. Also, Jenkins' play on Greg Jennings was very good. Keeping Jennings from breaking huge plays or scoring a TD, while covering him quite a bit on the outside, was important to winning that game.

Mike Jenkins is being very, very under-estimated, imo. Jenkins has blue-chip talent and blue-chip skill sets, too.

All rookie CBs have growing pains. If you want them to grow, you have to let them take some lumps and keep playing them. That is how young players develop. If Jenkins would have been in Arizona (drafted DRC), he would have been starting, for good, after a game like Tampa Bay, imo. I think most teams wouldn't have pulled him in order to put Henry back in the lineup. Anthony Henry had a clear "ole' on Brandon Jacobs (inside the 5) just before he busted into the endzone but got a pass.

It may be me, AdamJT13, and Chocolate Lab standing alone and perhaps some others.

I'll say this, too. Larry Fitzgerald really hurt Dallas (see him jumping over Henry on a long pass and beating Pacrat for TDs), and Jenkins took care of him given the few opportunites to do cover him. Jenkins athletic ability and long arms could have prevented that jump ball. Jenkins' size gives you a shot deep inside the redzone, too. Not playing him or limiting him in dime, hurt Dallas in that game.

 

[Cowboys22]

I know there are a lot of people on this board who believe Jenkins didn’t have a solid year. Personally, for a rookie, I thought he had a decent year. Outside of that one play where he was obviously gun shy, can anybody be specific on a play or two that helped them come to this conclusion?

That one play still pisses me off but I felt he played very well at CB for a rookie. He made some really nice plays as the season wore on. He could be a very good CB if he continues to develop and improve. We will probably just have to deal with him not being very physical.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Orlando Scandrick played very well last year for sure. He played well outside, too. (ex. see him covering Braylon Edwards outside in game one and playing outside when Newman was inside) I fully expect Scandrick to pick up where he left off. He's good looking player and runs a 4.32 and has great tools or blue-chip skills or talent.

There were times last year where Jenkins was lined up inside and Newman and Scandrick were lined up outside (see the second Giants game).

However, Mike Jenkins' play in the Tampa Bay game was very, very good. Plus, it has been forgotten or ignored by some fans or media. Jenkins showed his mettle in that game and remember, he's the guy not getting as many reps as Jenkins. Jenkins showed his mettle in the Tampa Bay game and proved he was ready to keep growing as a starter. His play on Plaxico Burress is not recognized by people like Tim MacMahon. Holding Burress to a 3-34-0 and a pick 6, in your third NFL start, was outstanding. Jenkins covered him (lined up on him) all over the field that day.

Phillips praised Mike Jenkins' play in December or the end of the year and said that he played really well (see the 2nd Washington game, Giants game, and Ravens game).

Scandrick seems to be the fan favorite, and that's fine. I like him, too.

If Jenkins doesn't make a play, on that bomb, in the first Eagles game, Dallas doesn't win that game. Also, Jenkins' play on Greg Jennings was very good. Keeping Jennings from breaking huge plays or scoring a TD, while covering him quite a bit on the outside, was important to winning that game.

Mike Jenkins is being very, very under-estimated, imo. Jenkins has blue-chip talent and blue-chip skill sets, too.

All rookie CBs have growing pains. If you want them to grow, you have to let them take some lumps and keep playing them. That is how young players develop. If Jenkins would have been in Arizona (drafted DRC), he would have been starting, for good, after a game like Tampa Bay, imo. I think most teams wouldn't have pulled him in order to put Henry back in the lineup. Anthony Henry had a clear "ole' on Brandon Jacobs (inside the 5) just before he busted into the endzone but got a pass.

It may be me, AdamJT13, and Chocolate Lab standing alone and perhaps some others.

I'll say this, too. Larry Fitzgerald really hurt Dallas (see him jumping over Henry on a long pass and beating Pacrat for TDs), and Jenkins took care of him when he the few opportunites to do cover him. Jenkins athletic ability and long arms could have prevented that jump ball. Jenkins' size gives you a shot deep inside the redzone, too. Not playing him or limiting him in dime, hurt Dallas in that game.

41 - You make a good case for Jenkins, he does have the skills. My only question would be about whether he has the heart....per the missed tackle against the Giants. I gave him a pass on that one but am watching with interest at how he will react to that "mistake."

I think it is a good think we have both Jenkins and Scandrick pushing one another for a starting position. Personally I wouldn't bet against Scandrick. I think the guy is truely driven/motivated to constantly improve to become a great player. I'd also bet he'd have made an effort to make that tackle against the Giants.

One thing is for sure whoever wins that starting role the real winners will be the team and the fans.

 

[cobra]

And it would sure look better for the team and scouts if their #1 draft choice was starting over their 5th rounder.

Our fans are being way too critical of Jenkins. He clearly played well last year for a rookie. Hopefully he will be even better, but the negative impression of Jenkins is being fueled by two things: (1) one stinking missed tackle is being treated like emblematic of his entire season when it is clearly not so; and (2) Scandrick exceeded expectations so much that people are down on Jenkins for not exceeding expectations as much.

Or, to put the second point in other words, it's almost as if fans expected Jenkins to be a B to B+ CB and he was a B CB in his first year. Scandrick was expected to be a C- CB and he ended up being a B-. So fans are holding it against Jenkins that he was not a whole letter grade better than they expected, even though Jenkins is still better in absolute terms.



ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I want to take issue with the part I quoted above. The team should not be embarassed that Scandrick outplayed a first round draft pick even if that was the case. Rather, they should be proud that they were able to find a jewel in the 5th round. Jenkins was a legit 1st round pick and would have gone there even if we did not draft him, so there is no reason to be embarassed for having drafted him. (I think he earned his position). But if Scandrick beats him out, then that should be a CREDIT to the team because it shows they scored with a 5th round pick.

The focus on draft position is unncessary. If we tried to justify our drafting philosophy by always starting the higher drafted player, then we would not be seeing Romo, Ratliff, and Witten in the games. We'd be starting McGee, Stanley, and Bennett instead.

I'm so happy that we have both Jenkins and Scandrick instead of holding one's success against the other. They are teammates, not competition.

 

[28 Joker]

41 - You make a good case for Jenkins, he does have the skills. My only question would be about whether he has the heart....per the missed tackle against the Giants. I gave him a pass on that one but am watching with interest at how he will react to that "mistake."

I think it is a good think we have both Jenkins and Scandrick pushing one another for a starting position. Personally I wouldn't bet against Scandrick. I think the guy is truely driven/motivated to constantly improve to become a great player. I'd also bet he'd have made an effort to make that tackle against the Giants.

One thing is for sure whoever wins that starting role the real winners will be the team and the fans.

A little motivation and competition never hurt anyone. It will be a battle for sure. I still think Jenkins offers some things on the outside (size, long arms, down hill ability (fast/quick) to get picks or jump routes around the numbers to the sidelines) that will help him win the job.

You are right, though. Scandrick (very talented) seems very driven and will motivate not only Jenkins but Newman. Newman sees how talented both those guys are, and he's going to be driven to continue to succeed at a very, very high level.

Everyone is going to win. I agree.

I'll take Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick and go play anyone, anywhere, or anytime.

Let's schedule the Giants, Eagles, and Redkins three times.

Let's go.

4.37 (probably a little faster; old time)
4.38
4.32

Our corners can FLY.

Speed kills.

 

[gimmesix]

Is there anything this guy can't do?

Holding for his own field goals is pretty special. Just consider him a one-man special team.