TCU To #1?

[Hoofbite]

With Oregon and Auburn each playing nobodies and TCU currently slapping down the #5 team, does TCU go to #1?

They should but I'm gonna guess not.

I can already see it now. The BCS is going to pit TCU and BSU against each other again. If they do it, both teams should accept and then meet at the 50 yard line to join together and flip the bird to the BCS before heading to the locker room without playing a single snap.

 

[kmp77]

Doubt it...TCU isn't sexy enough.

 

[Cythim]

TCU will probably move up to 3 ahead of Boise St in the human polls and will gain some ground in the computer polls but it will not be enough to jump Auburn or Oregon. If Alabama survives LSU they will draw much closer to Boise St, setting up a jump next week against Mississippi State.

 

[big dog cowboy]

does TCU go to #1?

Not a chance.

 

[Hoofbite]

Not a chance.

I know.

I just think it's funny that playing a good team only helps the BCS darlings.

You could put any of a number of teams in TCU's spot, have them beat the #5 team and you can almost guarantee a move up of at least 1 ranking.

 

[Hostile]

No, and it further underscores the need for a real championship to have 4 teams like we do right now atop the standings.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Doubt it...TCU isn't sexy enough.

The only thing that must mean is they aren't BCS, because other than that they have everything. Probably the best defense in college football and one of the best offenses to boot.

The BCS needs to man up and face their fears.

 

[StylisticS]

They won't move about Auburn or Oregon and they shouldn't. They should however solidly stay above Boise State.

 

[DallasEast]

No, and it further underscores the need for a real championship to have 4 teams like we do right now atop the standings.

Only one division, men's or women's, out of dozens does not have a playoff or tournament system:

The NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision.

Money (in the form of the bowl games) is the root of the problem.

Division III football plays a five-round, 32-team playoff following a 10/11 game regular season schedule. Division II Football plays a five-round, 24-team playoff following a 10/11 game regular season. Division I Football Championship Subdivision plays a four-round, 16-team playoff following a 11-game regular season.

The FBS?

No playoffs.

Bowl games.

I repeat: only one division, men's or women's, out of dozens does not have a playoff or tournament system.

 

[kmp77]

Oregon, Auburn, TCU, and Boise in a playoff...you realize how exciting that would be????

 

[Rogah]

Oregon, Auburn, TCU, and Boise in a playoff...you realize how exciting that would be????

That would be a great New Year's Day Football Final 4. I remember when I was a kid plaing on New Year's Day used to actually mean something. Today it's just a consolation prize.

Oh, and how pathetic is it going to be that we are very likely looking at an unranked team in the BCS? Let me say that again: There could very likely be an unranked team in the Orange Bowl (or whichever BCS bowl is forced unwillingly to take the sad sack winner of the Big Least).

 

[jimmy40]

Oregon, Auburn, TCU, and Boise in a playoff...you realize how exciting that would be????

exiting maybe but TV ratings would suck as bad as a four team playoff possibly could.

 

[Rogah]

exiting maybe but TV ratings would suck as bad as a four team playoff possibly could.

I'm not so sure. I think the TV ratings for a New Year's Day Fiesta Bowl would be better if it was a national championship semi-final than it would be with the unranked Big Least winner (Pittsburgh?) versus VA Tech (or some other meaningless matchup).

 

[kmp77]

I'm not so sure. I think the TV ratings for a New Year's Day Fiesta Bowl would be better if it was a national championship semi-final than it would be with the unranked Big Least winner (Pittsburgh?) versus VA Tech (or some other meaningless matchup).

Yeah, the game would actually matter. Not sure how that would cause the ratings to go down.

 

[Dallas]

This just in. The NCAA is not playing a playoff system this year or the next couple.


But by all means..lets cry and stomp and wring our hands over something that nobody can control but them.


Seriously get tired of hearing all of the playoff BS. It ain't happening right now.

Should it? Yes...

Ain't happening though.

 

[rkell87]

This just in. The NCAA is not playing a playoff system this year or the next couple.


But by all means..lets cry and stomp and wring our hands over something that nobody can control but them.


Seriously get tired of hearing all of the playoff BS. It ain't happening right now.

Should it? Yes...

Ain't happening though.

message board dude, nothing any of us say about anything, cowboys included, controls any outcome. but we like discussing it so deal with it

 

[Jack-Reacher]

They won't move about Auburn or Oregon and they shouldn't. They should however solidly stay above Boise State.

I've got no problem with TCU jumping BSU, but comments like these are part of the bias that Boise fans get accused of whining about all the time. TCU's SOS of schedule is .51 and BSU's was .47 With Baylor losing and VT winning that gap closes even more. The projected SOS has BSU with a better SOS than TCU by the end of the year, so what exactly warrants TCU staying solidly above BSU? Boise still has 4 games left to play where TCU only has 2. 2 of those games left are against decent teams, and 2 are doormats, but wins against Fresno and a ranked Nevada will push BSU above TCU.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Only one division, men's or women's, out of dozens does not have a playoff or tournament system:

The NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision.

Money (in the form of the bowl games) is the root of the problem.

Division III football plays a five-round, 32-team playoff following a 10/11 game regular season schedule. Division II Football plays a five-round, 24-team playoff following a 10/11 game regular season. Division I Football Championship Subdivision plays a four-round, 16-team playoff following a 11-game regular season.

The FBS?

No playoffs.

Bowl games.

I repeat: only one division, men's or women's, out of dozens does not have a playoff or tournament system.

I dated the assistant to the AD of U of Tennessee for a few weeks. You cannot have any idea how fundamentally opposed those up in the hierarchy of Div 1 football are to changing the Bowl system. I mean, it's beyond obtuse. I can throw all kinds of hyperbole at you, and almost all of it would fit. I think if I had mentioned that she needed to lose weight and her niece was an ugly little urchin with bad parents, I wouldn't have gotten any worse of a reaction than when I brought up any kind of Div 1 playoff system.

I brought up the very thing you did here, Div II and III have playoffs. Baseball playoffs go well into Summer sessions in most college semester systems which blows the "too many games too far past when the semester is over" crap argument.

She had every excuse in the book, and even accused me of being close minded because I wouldn't accept there were too many obstacles to change. Too many obstacles? Those obstacles were created by the NCAA, they can be overcome by the NCAA.

I kid you not when I say our football discussions led to the end of that relationship. I got to see a lot of her personality get revealed in those debates, and can say I pity her future ex-husband.

 

[The Horned Frog]

The projected SOS has BSU with a better SOS than TCU by the end of the year, so what exactly warrants TCU staying solidly above BSU?

No offense Jack, but Utah is better than any team Boise State has played this year, and I'll include Virginia Tech and Oregon State in that mix.

Why should they solidly stay above Boise? Because they went IN to Salt Lake City, played the #5 team in the nation and cornholed them.

Also, while you mention Fresno and a ranked Nevada, I'd also be willing to bet you come Monday, 7-2 San Diego State will be in the rankings.

I'll argue the fact that the Frogs have played a tougher schedule than the Broncos any day.

Regardless, I'm resigned to the fact that both of them are gonna get screwed at the end of the season. Even if Alabama beats Auburn, and Oregon loses between now and then, I still forsee them putting a one loss LSU (if it boils out that way) and a one loss Oregon or Big Ten team in the title game under the belief that they'd lose their *** financially with viewers if TCU or Boise were in it.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

No offense Jack, but Utah is better than any team Boise State has played this year, and I'll include Virginia Tech and Oregon State in that mix.

Why should they solidly stay above Boise? Because they went IN to Salt Lake City, played the #5 team in the nation and cornholed them.

Also, while you mention Fresno and a ranked Nevada, I'd also be willing to bet you come Monday, 7-2 San Diego State will be in the rankings.

I'll argue the fact that the Frogs have played a tougher schedule than the Broncos any day.

Regardless, I'm resigned to the fact that both of them are gonna get screwed at the end of the season. Even if Alabama beats Auburn, and Oregon loses between now and then, I still forsee them putting a one loss LSU (if it boils out that way) and a one loss Oregon or Big Ten team in the title game under the belief that they'd lose their *** financially with viewers if TCU or Boise were in it.

I'm not taking anything away from TCU, they laid the wood to Utah, the SOS argument is not mine it is Sagarin's. My beef is the perception that TCU's schedule is far and away better than BSU's.

Utah was indeed ranked #5, but did they deserve it? With a unimpressive win over Pitt who else have they beat? Did VT deserve their ranking at the beginning of the year? Does anyone expect Baylor to win out? The end of the year could have both clubs with two teams in the top 25, BSU with VT and Nevada and TCU with Utah and SDSU, the rest of the schedule is a wash. Sagarin's rating has BSU rated .1 higher than TCU at the end of the year.

I would not have an issue with TCU getting the nod over BSU, I think both teams are very good this year and it is difficult to determine which team is better. Schedule wise they are closer than most people realize.

I agree that neither team will be in the NCG, I think we see another TCU-BSU match-up or one of these teams gets the Rose Bowl and the other team is on the outside looking in, which I think is a shame regardless of which way it plays out.