Team Garrett

JoeCorrado;4311336 said:
You would have absolutely hated Landry, and Johnson then. Their first 19 games had worse than what we have seen from Garrett's first 19 games.

Nice one dude... That reminds me of a quote by Tom Landry too from this link

"Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about achieving it and staying with that plan."

The plan beckons for a bit of patience. This day's NFL has not much to do with that premise because of the what have you done for me right this very second, damn the long road kind of thinking.
 
I'm sick of this whole "team" business. I hate that phrase: "Team Garrett." What is this? Twilight?
 
The Emperor;4311570 said:
I'm sick of this whole "team" business. I hate that phrase: "Team Garrett." What is this? Twilight?

LOL: Seems to have become popular the last couple years especially on twitter.
 
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"I spent my whole career hoping for a chance to throw, and now I get to call pass plays every single down to make up for it. I also preach accountability, but will throw anyone around me under the bus to cover up my mistakes. I also have coached 3 of the 5 largest collapses in franchise history in just one season. We're gonna stack one collapse on top of another here in all 3 phases of the game."
 
Risen Star;4311423 said:
I'm all for Garrett but it's pretty ridiculous to compare the teams Landry and Jimmy took over to what Jason has taken over.

true.

Landry had the expansion team and spent many seasons (seven?) as a door mat before his first winning season.

Johnson took over for a Landry team that finished 3-13, and had Irvin, the first pick... Aikman. And then the Herschel Walker trade (yep... Jimmy inherited him too- not too shabby) which put HIS rebuilding efforts into warp drive.

Don't think it is a fair comparison either, now that you mention it. Johnson had it better than Landry or Garrett.
 
JoeCorrado;4311809 said:
true.

Landry had the expansion team and spent many seasons (seven?) as a door mat before his first winning season.

Johnson took over for a Landry team that finished 3-13, and had Irvin, the first pick... Aikman. And then the Herschel Walker trade (yep... Jimmy inherited him too- not too shabby) which put HIS rebuilding efforts into warp drive.

Don't think it is a fair comparison either, now that you mention it. Johnson had it better than Landry or Garrett.

Huh?

You think Jimmy took over a better team than Jason Garrett?

Tell me you didn't just say that.
 
Risen Star;4311441 said:
What kind of energy are you talking about?

I'm assuming you mean being demonstrative on the sidelines. No. He doesn't do that. Neither did Tom Landry. Neither did Bill Walsh. Neither did Tony Dungy. Neither did Bill Belichick and a whole list of great head coaches.

I'm more concerned with the work ethic kind of energy. The guy who burns the midnight oil breaking down film, Xs and Os, anything he can do to better his team.

I think Garrett has that. I've seen nothing to tell me he doesn't have that. But fans want him to take over a mess of a team, have no offseason, an abbreviated FA period where our cap funds are extremely limited, wave a magic wand and produce a Super Bowl contender his first year.

It doesn't work that way. It's a process. This is year 1. You have to give him time to build his team. And if we're still at this point two or three years from now, then we can make a change and try something else.

Great post. I really love everything about Garrett. He has made some very questionable in-game decisions in the past couple of games, but I'm still behind him 100%. He's a young, new coach that still needs time to develop his team and the way he manages a game. I love the way he carries himself and the message he seems to be sending to the team. Time will tell, but I think he's going to be the coach here for a while, as long as Jerry gives him the freedom and space to do as he pleases.
 
Also, what was the stat they showed Sunday night? 9 of his 10 losses were by a combined 30 points or something like that? We're in every single game (minus the Eagles game).

We just need to learn how to finish those games, because I'm pretty sure we were up in the 4th quarter for all of those.
 
JoeCorrado;4311809 said:
true.

Landry had the expansion team and spent many seasons (seven?) as a door mat before his first winning season.

Johnson took over for a Landry team that finished 3-13, and had Irvin, the first pick... Aikman. And then the Herschel Walker trade (yep... Jimmy inherited him too- not too shabby) which put HIS rebuilding efforts into warp drive.

Don't think it is a fair comparison either, now that you mention it. Johnson had it better than Landry or Garrett.

I lol
 
Risen Star;4311814 said:
Huh?

You think Jimmy took over a better team than Jason Garrett?

Tell me you didn't just say that.

Not entirely tongue in cheek.

Garrett took over a team that was 1-7 and was playing awful. I think some perspective may be in order. What if JJ had kept Wade and we finished at 1-15? or 3-13, 6-10?? But Garrett comes in and gets immediate results so instead you hold it against him?

I am saying that Johnson inherited a 3-13 team with some talent and Aikman is his hip pocket. Herschel Walker wasn't too shabby so there is a HOF QB, HOF WR, HOF RB- and you pretend the cupboard was bare? How many HOF players on the 2010 version?

We won't even talk about the NFL Trade of the Century that gave Johnson a shot in the arm skill wise with the 5 player 6 draft pick swap early in the season. Those 5 players were helpful, four of the 5 anyway.

Maybe my memory isn't great- but it ain't completely gone.
 
Hostile;4311427 said:
Yeah, 20 hour days are pure lazy creeping through.

Thank you. An energetic coach needs to be running out on the field and throwing headsets, obviously.
 
5Stars;4311430 said:
Garrett is learning just like the team is learning.

I just wish JJ would buy him a new watch!


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At this point, 20 years in the NFL in one capacity or another, and he doesn't know if he should call timeouts or when it's appropriate, he never will. It's like sending a kid off to college who can't read. It's hardly a surprise that defensive players admit that they don't know their assignments, or that Romo has to tell half the team what to do after they break the huddle sometimes. Their play and misplays is just a reflection of the tone at the top.

A couple of years from now when Garrett is fired, most fans will act like they knew it all along, even though they're denying the obvious now. The job is way too big for him. For that matter, OC was way too big for him.
 
I'd have faith in him if he'd ever actually done something to warrant it.
 
theogt;4312034 said:
I'd have faith in him if he'd ever actually done something to warrant it.

How about leading a team that was awful last year to being tied for the division lead 13 games in?
 
Dallas Cowboys Fan;4312036 said:
How about leading a team that was awful last year to being tied for the division lead 13 games in?
Uh....no.
 
Austin 3-16;4311314 said:
I got faith in this guy. I love his energy. What you are seeing now are teething problems. If Jerry gives him carte blanche with personnel decisions I have no doubt he will make the hard ones. Give the man time and he will deliver.


The guy botched 3 games this year all by himself.

The guy has presided over 3 of the 5 biggest EPIC FAILS in team history.

Did I mention those 3 were in just 13 games, while the previous 2 were over 50+ years.



And you got faith in this guy?
 
theogt;4312034 said:
I'd have faith in him if he'd ever actually done something to warrant it.

"Faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see."
 
I like Garrett too.

I don't like Campo's coaching of the defensive backs, and I don't like Ryan's propensity to blitz disregarding the former.

Shore up the defensive backs and this team would have won the last games. Garrett seems to have learned from Arizona. Ryan has yet to have learned from Arizona, or any of the other games where we've been leading in the 4TH only to lose.

Also, I wish the Cowboys organization would actually complain about the lack of blatant holding calls against the defense. I'm getting tired of seeing obvious grabs in front of the refs being disregarded.

I just want the team to get into the playoffs. It will be too long of an off season for me if it doesn't happen. Despite the erratic play and the propensity for mistakes this team makes at inopportune times, I highly doubt any team does not fear them in a playoff situation.
 
ChopBlock;4311546 said:
I keep hearing Garrett is some kind of football genius who preaches discipline and stacking good days upon each other. But all I see is someone who can't even manage the clock, is an average playcaller who gets too enthralled with the passing game and who oversees a team that is mistake prone and totally undisciplined and often unprepared.

I want to believe that Garrett it is the guy. I REALLY do. Unfortunately, everything you mentioned is true. If we just had some holes on the roster and guys getting outplayed physically, I could deal with it - but those things are just a part of the problem. Lingering issues that remain are the lack of discipline that has not changed, the poor clock management and questionable playcalling/decisions. The coach is responsible for much of that and those things have cost us games (and possibly wasted a season) IMO. Even if this team doesn't win out, I want to see a fired-up, disciplined, team that doesn't beat itself these last three games. Any coaching gaffes during this stretch would be completely unacceptable (we've already had a seasons-worth). As much as I liked the fat trimming of the roster earlier this year, I have despised the stupidity I have seen on the field and the sidelines this year from the Cowboys.
 

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