Teams already interested in Jason Garrett for their HC position?

[Chuck 54]

I wouldn't go annointing Garrett just yet.

1. Let's see how the offense does against a really good defense this week.

2. Let's see how the season goes and teams get more familiar with his style
and playcalling.


I love what I've seen, but he's not head coaching material yet...not after a couple seasons as QB coach and two games as OC.

 

[sbark]

I wouldn't go annointing Garrett just yet.

1. Let's see how the offense does against a really good defense this week.

2. Let's see how the season goes and teams get more familiar with his style
and playcalling.


I love what I've seen, but he's not head coaching material yet...not after a couple seasons as QB coach and two games as OC.

agreed..........Bob Saprano just sitting back and being the quiet guy here......Finally got a Head C that is willing to attack ..........Couldve Garrett gotten this kind of leeway from BP.............doubt it very much

 

[Ashwynn]

Why?

Because he MAY get the HC job here in the future?

You don't get many shots at HC. Jerry didn't have enough faith in him to give him the head job this off-season. It would be stoopid for Garrett to pass up a HC job somewhere else.

Lets see.....O-coordinator for the boys now, waiting to be coach of the boys in 2 years...... HC for the Raiders now, unemployed in 2 years.....

That does seem like a no brainer to me.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I agree with Leon on this -- except I'd say Jerry will try to do whatever he can to keep him -- but if Wade has done an outstanding job he isn't going to fire him - it would cause a defensive mutiny.

Many folks have the perspective that the Cowboy's HC job is the most desirable in the NFL - I don't think every coach looks at it that way. Many would not appreciate Jerry's "hands on" approach. That approach is fine when you've got a strong guy like Parcells or even a guy like Wade who knows how to roll with the punches. A young coach might not flourish under that sort of management.

I still maintain that Jerry is trying to be too "cute" here with his moves. If he wanted Garrett as HC in the future he should have hired him to be HC in the present.

He is actually making the right moves in my opinion. An effective move for right now and a possible GREAT move for the future. Talk about covering all bases. Jerry knows that if he needs to secure Garrett in future. HE CAN.
This move can lead to a decade of contendership instead of another trilogy of 5-11 campaigns. Jerry has actually postitioned himself quite well IMO.

 

[superpunk]

I agree with Leon on this -- except I'd say Jerry will try to do whatever he can to keep him -- but if Wade has done an outstanding job he isn't going to fire him - it would cause a defensive mutiny.

Many folks have the perspective that the Cowboy's HC job is the most desirable in the NFL - I don't think every coach looks at it that way. Many would not appreciate Jerry's "hands on" approach. That approach is fine when you've got a strong guy like Parcells or even a guy like Wade who knows how to roll with the punches. A young coach might not flourish under that sort of management.

I still maintain that Jerry is trying to be too "cute" here with his moves. If he wanted Garrett as HC in the future he should have hired him to be HC in the present.

I think you've got it a bit backwards. I think Jerry rolls depending on his head coach. I think Jerry is a great boss, would be a great boss for just about anyone. There's a reason why Bill wanted to work for him. I don't think he micromanages, so much as he wants to be involved - and I think almost any coach would love that sort of commitment from their boss.

I agree that if Garrett's the plan, Garrett should have been the move. But I don't think we can really fault this process.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think you've got it a bit backwards. I think Jerry rolls depending on his head coach. I think Jerry is a great boss, would be a great boss for just about anyone. There's a reason why Bill wanted to work for him. I don't think he micromanages, so much as he wants to be involved - and I think almost any coach would love that sort of commitment from their boss.

Bill had talked about Jerry being a meddling owner when with ESPN before taking cowboys job. He expressed how he didnt like it... didnt think it was right.

Bill went for money first. He had lost money to wife in divorce.

Now... he probably rationalized a few things into positives.... make no mistake... he wanted to replace the cash that was lost. Then he got Jerry again for the extension.

Come on guys

 

[superpunk]

Bill had talked about Jerry being a meddling owner when with ESPN before taking cowboys job. He expressed how he didnt like it... didnt think it was right.

Bill went for money first. He had lost money to wife in divorce.

Now... he probably rationalized a few things into positives.... make no mistake... he wanted to replace the cash that was lost. Then he got Jerry again for the extension.

Come on guys

Meanwhile Bill Parcells was watching that Cowboys-Giants game in the ESPN studio, where he was doing NFL commentary. Jerry Jones came on the screen, and these words came out of Parcells's mouth: "I could work for a guy like that." His colleague Chris Mortensen remembers "just about falling out of my chair." The Big Tuna was a coaching legend, having turned two bad teams into Super Bowl contestants. .....Parcells replied, "He wants to win. If you ever talk to Jerry, give him my cellphone number."

Come on, guys.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Come on, guys.

Meanwhile Bill Parcells was watching that Cowboys-Giants game in the ESPN studio, where he was doing NFL commentary. Jerry Jones came on the screen, and these words came out of Parcells's mouth: "I could work for a guy like that." His colleague Chris Mortensen remembers "just about falling out of my chair." The Big Tuna was a coaching legend, having turned two bad teams into Super Bowl contestants. .....Parcells replied, "He wants to win. If you ever talk to Jerry, give him my cellphone number."

He said that AFTER the comments(meddling owner) I am talking about.
He said that AFTER he lost all that money in the divorce.

Like... OMG....

 

[superpunk]

Meanwhile Bill Parcells was watching that Cowboys-Giants game in the ESPN studio, where he was doing NFL commentary. Jerry Jones came on the screen, and these words came out of Parcells's mouth: "I could work for a guy like that." His colleague Chris Mortensen remembers "just about falling out of my chair." The Big Tuna was a coaching legend, having turned two bad teams into Super Bowl contestants. .....Parcells replied, "He wants to win. If you ever talk to Jerry, give him my cellphone number."

He said that AFTER the comments(meddling owner) I am talking about.
He said that AFTER he lost all that money in the divorce.

Like... OMG....

WHEN he said it doesn't change the fact that he said it. Unless you think people can't change - in which case I'll be waiting on your post declaring that TO is about to tear our team apart.

He wanted to work for jerry Jones. He sought him out, and worked to make it happen.

Take your conspiracy theories to the trash can.

 

[Echo9]

Andy Reid would disagree.

So would Ray Handley...

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

WHEN he said it doesn't change the fact that he said it. Unless you think people can't change - in which case I'll be waiting on your post declaring that TO is about to tear our team apart.

He wanted to work for jerry Jones. He sought him out, and worked to make it happen.

Take your conspiracy theories to the trash can.

When he said it = waffling - he said both things... first he was against Jerry then he was with him

Its not a conspiray theory. YOU and I would do the same thing to replace millions lost... dont kid yourself.....

"oh sure I could work for Jerry, he wants to win".... and I gotta replace some benjamins that my ex wife took

 

[rw54]

I think Jerry is sold on Garrett. He will dump or buy off Wade if Jason looks like he will leave. Tony Sparano can attest to Jerry's love for JG. I think Wade is HC this year and probably next and Garrett takes over then.

 

[superpunk]

When he said it = waffling - he said both things... first he was against Jerry then he was with him

Its not a conspiray theory. YOU and I would do the same thing to replace millions lost... dont kid yourself.....

"oh sure I could work for Jerry, he wants to win".... and I gotta replace some benjamins that my ex wife took

This is idiotic.

He wanted to work for Jerry.

Jerry is a great owner.

Affirmation.

 

[peplaw06]

When he said it = waffling - he said both things... first he was against Jerry then he was with him

Its not a conspiray theory. YOU and I would do the same thing to replace millions lost... dont kid yourself.....

"oh sure I could work for Jerry, he wants to win".... and I gotta replace some benjamins that my ex wife took

Do you have some kind of insight into the personal finances of Bill Parcells? You're essentially saying he came back to coaching just for the money. He stayed 4 years, including the initial contract and an extension. Share the info if you have it.... for the record I don't think you do. You seem to be talkin out your arse.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Do you have some kind of insight into the personal finances of Bill Parcells? You're essentially saying he came back to coaching just for the money. He stayed 4 years, including the initial contract and an extension. Share the info if you have it.... for the record I don't think you do. You seem to be talkin out your arse.

It was talked about here in NY that he lost alot in settlement. you cannot deny that he waffled on Jerry. Thats fact.

I believe he came back for money.

4 year deal = how much $16

arse = :

you have your opinion of what you think happened and I have mine... opinions are like _________ everyone has them... so now everyone know where you and I and others stand. great.

 

[peplaw06]

It was talked about here in NY that he lost alot in settlement. you cannot deny that he waffled on Jerry. Thats fact.

I believe he came back for money.

4 year deal = how much $16

arse = :

you have your opinion of what you think happened and I have mine... opinions are like _________ everyone has them... so now everyone know where you and I and others stand. great.

Yo do realize that he makes a boatload of cash working for ESPN. He did before he came to Dallas. He does now. He turned down a chance to be part of the MNF crew, where he would have made even more cash. He doesn't seem like the type that is hurting for cash. but you go on thinkin that.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This is idiotic.

He wanted to work for Jerry.

Jerry is a great owner.

Affirmation.

Yep, Parcells said the reason he would work for Jerry is that knew Jerry wanted to win, and not all owners do. Some just pay it lip service.

Money never hurts, but do you think Parcells would have worked for the Bidwells?

BTW, I'd never heard this before, but Pat Summerall has a weekly bit on GAC and he was telling this story last week. He said in 2002 they were flying home after another pitiful loss -- who knew Pat flew with the team? -- and Jerry was extremely dejected. He gave Pat a pad of paper and a pen and asked him for any ideas he had for improving the situation. Pat wrote one thing on it and gave it back to Jerry. It said, "Hire Bill Parcells."

 

[Aikbach]

Offensive coordinators are always the hot commodity down the pipe line from Noirv Turner in '93 to Mike Shanahan in '95 and Mike Martz in '99 or Gary Kubiak in '06 , teams with successful coordinators usually end up surrendering them to a down on their luck team in need of a start.

Low and behold it is the West Coast philosophy that seems to fair better as a quick fix application than the Norv Turner, Mike Martz, Jason Garrett balanced attack.

Answer stems from the fact that solid personnel must be compiled before running the balanced attack.

Turner was thus unable to do it in Washington, Martz inherited a Super Bowl champion and Garrett has taken the reigns of a unit that mostly has four to two years experience together and is stocked with talent.

I'm not putting down Kubiak or Shanahan but balance is tougher than dump off passing and short route running.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think you've got it a bit backwards. I think Jerry rolls depending on his head coach. I think Jerry is a great boss, would be a great boss for just about anyone. There's a reason why Bill wanted to work for him. I don't think he micromanages, so much as he wants to be involved - and I think almost any coach would love that sort of commitment from their boss.

I agree that if Garrett's the plan, Garrett should have been the move. But I don't think we can really fault this process.

I think how Jerry rolls does depend on his HC -- that part is right -- he didn't meddle *much* with BP -- except when he signed TO and Price -- and Bill showed him where it was at in both cases, stubbornly not using either to their potential.

But Jerry did hire puppets like Campo because he wanted to have input and control over coaching decisions. Candidates for the HC job saw how he treated the last young hot OC (Gailey) he hired as a coach and may not want a part of that.

I do think Garrett is the plan down the road in Jerry's mind but I don't believe Wade is totally on board with that. Wade wants this to be his last stop - if he's successful it would be very hard to shove him out the door to make way for Garrett.

 

[scottsp]

It's certainly no surprise Garrett is on the radar right now. Most folks knew if this offense performed even reasonably well this season, he would be making the interview rounds next spring.

I believe he would leave for the right head coaching job. Darn near anyone would. When the coaching staff of a world champion is picked off by an organization such as Cleveland, then anything is possible.