Teams who may take Austin for a 2nd?

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It should have been a first and third tender, and would have been except for the deal for Roy Williams that should have never been made. Williams will take the reps that Austin should get if he stays. Williams is not really that good, and is a locker room problem to boot.

With reps, Austin would be better than Williams within a year if he is not already, but Miami will probably offer the poorer second and Jones will take it because he has morphed into another Danny Boy, I fear.


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BraveHeartFan;2654719 said:
I'd gladly give up Austin for a #2 that gives us a shot at a quality Safety and a NT or OL player that we'd like to have.

And then what happens if we cut Owens, or he is even more in-effective than last season?

Crayton is ok as a #2, but his ideal role is a #3. RW should be ok as the #1 guy, Austin is the best combination of size, speed and age on this team. he could be a quality #2.
 

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nyc;2654486 said:
If I was going to draft a unknown WR in the second round, I think I would go after Austin first.

Derrick Williams or Austin?

Juaqin Iglesias or Austin?

Brian Robiskie or Austin?

I take Austin who is a known commodity and is a quality special teams player. In every case.
 

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Cowboys22;2654473 said:
Austin won't even get a sniff from any team now! Noone is giving up a 2nd round pick for a WR who really hasn't done anything in 3 years in the league. At most, I can see Parcells and Ireland making a lame attempt to trade for him but thats about it.

Austin could be a 3rd receiver or a 2nd on some teams. Especially teams that are rebuilding. The guy has high potential so i don't think you know what you are talking about.
 

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I like Miles Austin. I'd rather keep him than Patrick Crayton. I don't dislike Crayton, I just like Austin better.

I hope we don't lose him, but if we do, I am glad we turned an Undrafted Free Agent into a 2nd round Draft Pick. There is some solace in that because grabbing a NT, OG, ILB, or SS who can start for us seems more valuable to me than a potential 3rd or 4th WR Option.

Teams I could see going for Austin are Oakland and Miami.
 

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Meh, I doubt anyone goes after Miles. And if they do, we can just match the contract.

I mean, I love his potential and have for three years now (remember when so many people thought Hurd was better?), but he's still very unproven as a regular WR. You don't know how he'll fare under pressure, if he wears down as the year goes on playing every snap, if corners can figure out his game, etc.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2654834 said:
Meh, I doubt anyone goes after Miles. And if they do, we can just match the contract.

I mean, I love his potential and have for three years now (remember when so many people thought Hurd was better?), but he's still very unproven as a regular WR. You don't know how he'll fare under pressure, if he wears down as the year goes on playing every snap, if corners can figure out his game, etc.

I agree. I think Austin has a chance to become good but I think teams in need of WR will be looking to the draft or players who are established players. I think some may be over rating how the league thinks of Austin.
 

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Hostile;2654825 said:
I like Miles Austin. I'd rather keep him than Patrick Crayton. I don't dislike Crayton, I just like Austin better.

I hope we don't lose him, but if we do, I am glad we turned an Undrafted Free Agent into a 2nd round Draft Pick. There is some solace in that because grabbing a NT, OG, ILB, or SS who can start for us seems more valuable to me than a potential 3rd or 4th WR Option.

Teams I could see going for Austin are Oakland and Miami.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.
 

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dbair1967;2654386 said:
I could see several teams with late 2nd rd choices willing to part with their 2nd for Austin. Maybe Miami, but teams like the Titans & Jets also come to mind.

Those that think losing Austin and getting a late 2nd rd pick back in return arnt being very smart. And they will be the first one's that complain if Austin does get away and then catches 60 balls for 1000 yds and 7 or 8 tds. If he continues to work hard he can definitely be a #2 for alot of teams. I'd prefer it be here. I'd rather have Austin than TO at this stage.

David

Yes. The Jets come to mind because they just released Coles.
They are in a complete rebuild of their offense.
Austin would come at a good price.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2654834 said:
Meh, I doubt anyone goes after Miles. And if they do, we can just match the contract.

I mean, I love his potential and have for three years now (remember when so many people thought Hurd was better?), but he's still very unproven as a regular WR. You don't know how he'll fare under pressure, if he wears down as the year goes on playing every snap, if corners can figure out his game, etc.

totall agree for a team to give up a 2nd rounder for Austin a lot has to be thought of. Including injuries with this player. He has potential to be very good. However just the thought that he was tendered with 2nd round sends me the msg. that Dallas is willing to match offers for him. Thats how highly he is thought of.
 

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Alexander;2654811 said:
Derrick Williams or Austin?

Juaqin Iglesias or Austin?

Brian Robiskie or Austin?

I take Austin who is a known commodity and is a quality special teams player. In every case.

I would too.
 

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TheCount;2654450 said:
No one is going to give a second rounder for Austin.

Exactly.

Austin has flashed some potential but he hasn't shown any real tangible production. He is a solid but not special kick returner and he has great deep speed at WR. That's it.

He just doesn't have the production to merit paying a second.

I can not ever recall a WR with such little actual production over 3 years getting such applause from a fan base that seemingly hates everyone who actually produces.

I would love for all these guys thinking Austin gets an offer that forfeits a 2nd rounder to point to any WR that was traded for such a pick after 3 years of minimal production.
 

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montgod;2654353 said:
Honestly, Austin is a good wr, but not worth losing out on a second rounder. Besides, with all the vet wrs available in fa, this would the best time someone could come knocking for Austin... even though I don't see it happening.


Let's weigh a proven athlete (Austin) with an unproven commodith (a second-round pick).

With austin, we know what we have. With a second-round pick it's a crapshoot.

Follow your philosophy to continually losing up and comers and pretty soon we are wallowing mediocrity and a whole army of youngsters we lost will be thriving in other cities.


Give me Austin anytime over a gamble with a second-rounder.
 

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Alexander;2654811 said:
Derrick Williams or Austin?

Juaqin Iglesias or Austin?

Brian Robiskie or Austin?

I take Austin who is a known commodity and is a quality special teams player. In every case.

Agreed. In this case the the odds are way better with a known commodity who is austin.
 

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dbair1967;2655066 said:
I would too.

... then it is a good thing neither of you are scouts because you'd be out of work:)

It is quite likely this time next year Robiskie will have eclipsed Austin's career totals in receptions, receiving yards and TDs.

But even more all 3 of those guys may well end up as 3rd round picks.

I am fairly certain Williams and Iglesias are day 2 picks.

Austin has more speed than all 3 prospects. He also has the biggest question marks regarding hands and route running. All 3 prospects caught over 100 passes as a collegian and had 9 or more career TD receptions. they were all regarded as possession guys who can run routes very meticulously. If you watched the Senior Bowl and combine you saw Robiskie display plus hands, speed and route-running as well as in the actual SB game itself.

And FWIW Austin ran a 4.47 40 at 6'2" and 215 pounds. He had a 40 inch vertical leap.

Robiskie ran 4.48 40, 37.5 vert, at 6"3 and 209.

And there is zero question who has better hands or runs better routes.

Now Williams ran like molasses and probably falls to round 4 or 5. Iglesias looked like a solid possession type but again he didn't secure any round 2 selection.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2655107 said:
Let's weigh a proven athlete (Austin) with an unproven commodith (a second-round pick).

With austin, we know what we have. With a second-round pick it's a crapshoot.

Follow your philosophy to continually losing up and comers and pretty soon we are wallowing mediocrity and a whole army of youngsters we lost will be thriving in other cities.


Give me Austin anytime over a gamble with a second-rounder.

HUH???

Proven to do what?
Again Austin has been in the league 3 years. He has measurables akin to a 2nd round pick without any production. Known commodities do not have 18 career receptions.

All these Austin fans are killing me. Tell me what the guy can do besides run fast?

He is a kick off return guy but his career there are average. He averaged 21+ ypr while Felix Jones average 27+ ypr for instance.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2655112 said:
Agreed. In this case the the odds are way better with a known commodity who is austin.

I like Austin I hope we keep him he has shown flashes but thus far he has shown he can't stay healthy. I think teams who are looking for a WR will look to the draft, you say they are unknown but right now all that is really known about Austin is he can't remain healthy. He is just as much of a crap shoot at this point.
 

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jterrell;2655156 said:
HUH???

Proven to do what?
Again Austin has been in the league 3 years. He has measurables akin to a 2nd round pick without any production. Known commodities do not have 18 career receptions.

Most developmental WRs brought into the league as undrafted free agents do, you know, take time to develop. But since he took that time and hasn't produced what you feel is appropriate catching the football, nobody will want him. He's a quality kick returner. But I suppose that doesn't give him enough value.

Looks like we wasted our time even bothering to tender him.

And "known" isn't the same as saying "proven". He is known to this team. He also has shown he can play in enough instances to make us want make the attempt to see if he can contribute. It is not the same as saying he's been consistent and proven.

All these Austin fans are killing me. Tell me what the guy can do besides run fast?

You act like he's the next Randall Williams. He isn't.

He is a kick off return guy but his career there are average. He averaged 21+ ypr while Felix Jones average 27+ ypr for instance.

Felix Jones is also a first round draft choice and a special player. Austin is an undrafted developmental WR who might be turning the corner and making something of himself. But, per you, he can't play. Nice to know.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2654326 said:
I like all this Sean Smith love...keep it up guys

But I'm not sure if I want to lose Austin yet. I'd maybe take the Commanders 2nd rounder but not the Dolphins. It just isn't worth it.

They wouldn't have to give up the Commanders 2nd.

I don't know why people think they would.

It would have to be a trade and that would be monumentally stupid.
 

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lol that is a joke... this guy isn't worth a 3rd or a 4th let alone a 2nd.

lets be serious here... we had to trade a 1st, a 3rd, and what a 5th? to get a receiver because we had this 2nd round talent on our team? lol no...

you trade a 2nd for a player who is pretty much all pro. Hell same for a 3rd.

I'd be shocked if someone traded us a 5th for him. I'd take it too.
 
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