Terence Newman Groin again!

[DeaconBlues]

deion couldn't cover buehler's jock with both hands

Now THAT is a disturbing image.

 

[windward]

Drafting a 25-year-old rookie CB was a huge mistake, but extending him with that huge contract was even worse. One of the biggest mistakes of Jerry's career. Ever since then he's gone completely downhill. Now he's 31 and can't stay healthy to save his life. If he's already hurt this early into training camp, why would anyone have faith that he can play a full season?

what? You're not making any sense. Drafting a Top 5 cb in the first round is now a "huge mistake"

 

[jterrell]

what? You're not making any sense. Drafting a Top 5 cb in the first round is now a "huge mistake"

His point is a valid one that concerned me as well.

TNew was 2 to 3 years older then many draftees and 4 years older than Witten when they were each drafted.

TNew is now 31 years old and has been to 1 Pro Bowl.

He has been a solid player but a top 5 pick is supposed to be a backbone of the team. I preferred Terrell Suggs even with his mediocre 40 time because pass rush skill translates to the NFL. I also like Byron Leftwich tho so as always, the draft is a crap shoot.

All that said TNew was generally regarded the best overall player in that draft. He was ranked first by the majority of the teams so taking him at 5 even at 25 years old was understandable.

And as was stated I think the age was a major concern on that contract extension. If TNew isn't healthier for the remainder of his career than he has been the last 2 years that contract become an albatross; or we get scared and gamble he's done by trying to jettison him in the uncapped year.

Newman is a heck of a good player but his age and health make him a very good, very scary player.

 

[RoadRunner]

you are clueless if you think that.

your posts are a joke and only you think thy are relevant.

cry on

There is nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of other people right? Makes you feel alive and relevant does it?

 

[starfrombirth]

I'm guessing you've forgotten about the fantastic DB play we had in the games he didn't play last season

Newman was the main reason we could even play man to man towards the end of the season which again let us be more aggressive, had he been healthy all season Stewart might still have had a job

Yeah, he did great against Santana Moss in the Commanders game... oh wait.. no he didn't. Nor did he do good against DeSean Jackson (a rookie I might add). He played but he played hurt so your argument that he only missed 4 or 5 games last year doesn't hold water because there were many games where he played hurt and was toasted. If he was any other player than your cousin, brother, nephew, friend in passing he would be getting hammered by you. Yes, he was great for the first 4 years and Yes, when he is healthy he is still one of the best in the game but for the last 2 years he has been out or hurt more than 75% of the time. Now tell me, is that a smart utilization of resources mr. businessman?

 

[starfrombirth]

No need for flaming. This was the last thing that should have happend but it did.

Worst decission was to trade Henry away. We should have given them Tnew instead (of course for more value). Let the injury bug hamper him one more season and we won't get alot for him anymore. Better trade them when they have worth on the market....

Tnew always seems to start his career "this" seasons or from "this" game on. Then there are alsways excuses why he couldn't play up to his potential. And potential and talent does he have. But his fans seem to forget that staying healthy in football is also a talent and a important one.

They don't forget it for anyone else tho.

 

[Idgit]

Or constipated. The doctor said I should try more fiber. Or anal. Whichever I prefer.

I recommend starting with fiber.

 

[Jon88]

you are always late, I think that means you're pregnant.

Oh the wit!

 

[superpunk]

I recommend starting with fiber.

Too late.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is funny Newman has been in the league 6 years and has played the full season is 4 of those 6. Owens on the other hand has played 14 years and has managed to play all 16 only 2 times yet Newman is injury prone? :laugh2:

 

[windward]

His point is a valid one that concerned me as well.

TNew was 2 to 3 years older then many draftees and 4 years older than Witten when they were each drafted.

TNew is now 31 years old and has been to 1 Pro Bowl.

He has been a solid player but a top 5 pick is supposed to be a backbone of the team. I preferred Terrell Suggs even with his mediocre 40 time because pass rush skill translates to the NFL. I also like Byron Leftwich tho so as always, the draft is a crap shoot.

All that said TNew was generally regarded the best overall player in that draft. He was ranked first by the majority of the teams so taking him at 5 even at 25 years old was understandable.

And as was stated I think the age was a major concern on that contract extension. If TNew isn't healthier for the remainder of his career than he has been the last 2 years that contract become an albatross; or we get scared and gamble he's done by trying to jettison him in the uncapped year.

Newman is a heck of a good player but his age and health make him a very good, very scary player.

It wasn't a huge mistake though, as I'm sure you'd agree.

 

[jterrell]

It is funny Newman has been in the league 6 years and has played the full season is 4 of those 6. Owens on the other hand has played 14 years and has managed to play all 16 only 2 times yet Newman is injury prone? :laugh2:

Call me when Newman has played 14 years....

Also please do fact check before posting....
Owens has played and probably sulked through 16 games 6 times in his career. Including 2 of the last 3 which all occurred in Dallas.

Beyond that T.O. played in 14 or more games every year but 1, when he had a broken leg which he recovered from in time to play in the Super Bowl.

Newman has missed 9 games in two years with about 5 other games where he played poorly due to injury. Even more than that he had an issue in previous years where he was banged up and started getting pass interference calls racked up on his like they were on special at KMart. Newman's injuries are an issue because his play is so markedly effected by them. He is in a position where you can't hide.

 

[jterrell]

It wasn't a huge mistake though, as I'm sure you'd agree.

I would agree.

But I think where Newman is concerned there is a middle ground between is he is as good as a sure-fire hall of famer and he sucks lilke Dwayne Goodrich.

 

[Doomsday101]

Call me when Newman has played 14 years....

Also please do fact check before posting....
Owens has played and probably sulked through 16 games 6 times in his career. Including 2 of the last 3 which all occurred in Dallas.

Beyond that T.O. played in 14 or more games every year but 1, when he had a broken leg which he recovered from in time to play in the Super Bowl.

Newman has missed 9 games in two years with about 5 other games where he played poorly due to injury. Even more than that he had an issue in previous years where he was banged up and started getting pass interference calls racked up on his like they were on special at KMart. Newman's injuries are an issue because his play is so markedly effected by them. He is in a position where you can't hide.

I agree Newman being hurt has been a problem but the fact is players get hurt playing football I wish that was not the case but it happens. Newman has not been injury prone he has missed time over the last 2 years and because we had nothing behind him it hurt. That is not a reason to claim a player as injury prone or that some how it is a given he will get injured and miss time this season. He very well could but no more or less than other starting players around the league.

I check my facts on Owens you may want to check your own.

 

[JPM]

Am I late to the panic party?

Hop in. The crazy water is just right.

 

[jterrell]

I agree Newman being hurt has been a problem but the fact is players get hurt playing football I wish that was not the case but it happens. Newman has not been injury prone he has missed time over the last 2 years and because we had nothing behind him it hurt. That is not a reason to claim a player as injury prone or that some how it is a given he will get injured and miss time this season. He very well could but no more or less than other starting players around the league.

I think the issue is the injuries TNew has had.

They are nagging things like this groin, or a high ankle sprain. Torn ACL, ok, you sit a year and come back stronger... the groin you play through it but never really heals and your play looks like bumpkus.

Also its an age thing. If T.O. had missed 9 games over the last 2 years he may very well be unemployed right now. But 31 at CB with a huge salary... ignore that is Newman and just weigh that versus a guy we could trade for like say Champ Bailey.

I tend to lump Romo and TNew together. They are key guys who need to play at a higher level all year this year. They get paid like superstars but are clearly less consistent than Witten/Ware.

 

[Hoofbite]

Call me when Newman has played 14 years....

Also please do fact check before posting....
Owens has played and probably sulked through 16 games 6 times in his career. Including 2 of the last 3 which all occurred in Dallas.

Beyond that T.O. played in 14 or more games every year but 1, when he had a broken leg which he recovered from in time to play in the Super Bowl.

Newman has missed 9 games in two years with about 5 other games where he played poorly due to injury. Even more than that he had an issue in previous years where he was banged up and started getting pass interference calls racked up on his like they were on special at KMart. Newman's injuries are an issue because his play is so markedly effected by them. He is in a position where you can't hide.

Pretty sure the only year that TO didn't play 14 games was when Philly deactivated him after 7 weeks. His leg was injured way later in the season so he had 14 games that year as well.

As far as how many games hes missed, it looks like you two aren't on the same page. Looks like you are arguing the number of games played in and he is arguing the number of games stared.

 

[bbgun]

Stolen from another poster, but quite fitting:

"Newman says he's never felt better"

"Newman won't play in pre-season opener"

"Newman sitting out all of pre-season"

"Newman will miss first 4 weeks of season at minimum"

"Newman gets two picks in season debut, reinjures groin"

"Newman needs season-ending surgery"

 

[Doomsday101]

I think the issue is the injuries TNew has had.

They are nagging things like this groin, or a high ankle sprain. Torn ACL, ok, you sit a year and come back stronger... the groin you play through it but never really heals and your play looks like bumpkus.

Also its an age thing. If T.O. had missed 9 games over the last 2 years he may very well be unemployed right now. But 31 at CB with a huge salary... ignore that is Newman and just weigh that versus a guy we could trade for like say Champ Bailey.

I tend to lump Romo and TNew together. They are key guys who need to play at a higher level all year this year. They get paid like superstars but are clearly less consistent than Witten/Ware.

The injuries he has had are also common injuries around the league and very common at the CB position. When healthy Newman has done a good job and sorry but ints is not the only way to prove how effective a CB plays the position. Newman gets targeted a lot less than what Henry was getting targeted. I don't know if Newman will make it through 16 games no more than any other player will make it through 16 but as I said to claim he is injury prone is a joke.

 

[Clove]

If you feel that way just put me on ignore because you have me misread and I'm tired of reading your posts. They're like nails on a chalkboard. Kind of like your lame avatar.

:laugh2: