Terence Newman Groin again!

Four;2876344 said:
what does injury prone even mean?

doesn't blanket receivers?

it's preseason, wait till it matters and see how injury prone he is.

I loved newman in College and early on..but He's been Lingering a injury for 2 years now. Can't pretend like it's not happening.
 
DallasDomination;2876358 said:
I loved newman in College and early on..but He's been Lingering a injury for 2 years now. Can't pretend likeit's not happening.


meh, i hurt all the time, doesn't mean I am not competitive, newman loves to play, hurt or not he is one of the best in the league.

80 percent newman is better than most, that's huge.

Jerry will do the right thing when it is time, it's not time yet.
 
I should be happy that we're not talking about Tony Romo's leadership, but somehow, I find the Newman's groin talk isn't as refreshing a diversion as it would have seemed even a month ago. I'm ready to start freaking out about something else.
 
Kung ** Pandoval;2876424 said:
I must admit. Newman is a legit corner. You guys are rough on him. Are you like this on everyone?

Are you Bob Sacamano?
 
dogunwo;2876431 said:
No, it doesnt

Unfortunately the green tint doesn't filter ultraviolet light causing the beer to oxidize or something akin to that so it gets that skunky flavor. The only good heineken is out of a keg or very very fresh.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2876447 said:
Unfortunately the green tint doesn't filter ultraviolet light causing the beer to oxidize or something akin to that so it gets that skunky flavor. The only good heineken is out of a keg or very very fresh.

It doesn't absorb the wavelength of green visible light, which is the in the segment of the spectrum that skunks beer and has the same effect. It's the composition of the glass that affects UV light, not the color. The pigment in the glass of a brown bottle of beer also have the effect of filtering UV light, but it's the oxides in the pigmentation and not the color that has the desirable effect.

Ie, the portion of the wavelength of light that skunks beer overlaps the visible and UV segments of the spectrum, but brown glass can limit both the detrimental effects of UV and visible light.

Either way, Heineken is a good beer if you don't mind a little skunk.
 
Idgit;2876471 said:
It doesn't absorb the wavelength of green visible light, which is the in the segment of the spectrum that skunks beer and has the same effect. It's the composition of the glass that affects UV light, not the color. The pigment in the glass of a brown bottle of beer also have the effect of filtering UV light, but it's the oxides in the pigmentation and not the color that has the desirable effect.

Ie, the portion of the wavelength of light that skunks beer overlaps the visible and UV segments of the spectrum, but brown glass can limit both the detrimental effects of UV and visible light.

Either way, Heineken is a good beer if you don't mind a little skunk.

LOL there you go.
 
windward;2875883 said:
It wasn't a huge mistake though, as I'm sure you'd agree.

How wasn't it? We could have had a franchise pass rusher in Terrell Suggs or an anchor on the D-Line in Kevin Williams.

You spend a top 5 pick on a guy who you think will be a key cog to your team for the next 10 years. Considering that Newman was 25 when we picked him, the chances of him playing at a high level to 35 were pretty slim since most CB's don't do that. So we already had one foot in the grave the day we picked him. He'll be 31 this year and he's already breaking down. Meanwhile, Suggs is only 26. TWENTY FREAKING SIX. He's a year older than Newman was when we picked him six years ago!!! That's a mistake any way you look at it.

Newman's been a good, solid player for us but he's not a game changer and his best days (and healthiest days) are probably behind him.
 
Double Trouble;2876331 said:
Is this the bit where you pretend Newman isn't injury-prone?

played 6 seasons...played in every game in 4 of them, so no, I dont think he is "injury prone"

is this the bit where you pretend he isnt a great CB that shuts down opposing WR's?
 
I don't think anybody is saying that Newman isn't a good corner.. My thing is that when Newman's contract was up there was better options out there ie Asante Samuels.. He's younger, healthier and a ball hawk. Jerry falls in love in love with his draft picks and overpays.. I said the same thing about MB3.. Jerry should of waited til the season was over before he gave him 45 mil. especially after drafting 2 rb's. But I think Jerry has learned a lesson, he let Canty and Burnett walk and is letting Ware ride out the end of his Contract. I'm not saying don't sign Ware but injuries and bad seasons happen.
 
Vinnie2u;2876554 said:
I don't think anybody is saying that Newman isn't a good corner.. My thing is that when Newman's contract was up there was better options out there ie Asante Samuels.. He's younger, healthier and a ball hawk. Jerry falls in love in love with his draft picks and overpays.. I said the same thing about MB3.. Jerry should of waited til the season was over before he gave him 45 mil. especially after drafting 2 rb's. But I think Jerry has learned a lesson, he let Canty and Burnett walk and is letting Ware ride out the end of his Contract. I'm not saying don't sign Ware but injuries and bad seasons happen.

I dont see that there were "better options" than resigning Newman. He is an elite CB, he got the going rate for elite CB's (and there arnt very many) We'd all like our guys to make more plays, but if you arnt thrown at much I dont care how good you are, you arnt going to make a ton of plays. Samuel makes alot of plays but also gives up alot and is not anywhere near as good a tackler, nor does he give you anything as a punt returner. He also dropped the game clinching pick vs NYG in the Super Bowl, had one of our guys done that I dont care what he had done previously, you people would be butchering him over it.
 
dbair1967;2876570 said:
I dont see that there were "better options" than resigning Newman. He is an elite CB, he got the going rate for elite CB's (and there arnt very many) We'd all like our guys to make more plays, but if you arnt thrown at much I dont care how good you are, you arnt going to make a ton of plays. Samuel makes alot of plays but also gives up alot and is not anywhere near as good a tackler, nor does he give you anything as a punt returner. He also dropped the game clinching pick vs NYG in the Super Bowl, had one of our guys done that I dont care what he had done previously, you people would be butchering him over it.

I don't think Newman is Elite.. I've seen too many plays where he doesn't turn around to look for the ball or he doesn't make a play for it. That's part of being elite. Just because there is a shortage of great corners doesn't mean you overpay for what you got. Thats bad business. I'm not a Newman basher and I think he's a true Cowboy but don't make him out to be great. Kevin Smith before the injuries was a better DB than Newman.
 
burmafrd;2875141 said:
He is by far the best CB we have had since Deion was good. He is probably the third or fourth best CB we have ever had.

Don't think so. Cornell Green, Herb Adderley, Mel Renfro, Kevin Smith pre-injury, and I'm certain I'm leaving some off. He stays nicked up too often to put him in the top few CBs we've had. He could be though. Maybe right behind Renfro and Green.

jterrell;2875791 said:
I really hope that was tongue-in-cheek.

Deion was on another level period. He could play hurt and not give up passes because QBs were afraid of him. TNew is very, very good but he is not scary.

Deion attacked the ball while TNew just covers the man.

TNew is a top notch CB when healthy but you have to factor in his injuries currently and that makes him a good, not great CB at this time.

Various other nonsense:
No, we aren't cutting him. He is a valuable player and a huge difference maker when healthy. Ideally he'd be able to get a few snaps off with Scandrick and Jenkins coming along nicely.

No he isn't a clear cut top 5 CB right now. We have 2 clear cut top 5 players: Ware and Witten. Newman is top 5 when he is at his very best, but you don't get to count that as his normal week in week out play.

Romo and Newman to be are about the same. Very good players who needs to stay healthy and stay consistent to reach elite status. Romo needs to play better in December and Newman needs to attack the ball more so teams stop testing him. If he isn't getting targeted he can get by a few weeks with various minor ailments.

Pay attention people. This is a good post.
 
My two cents.

He's a very good CB. If he has a groin injury this year, again, then I'll put the pretty concerned tag on him. Medically speaking, it's not too uncommon for groin injuries to persist for 6 to 12 months or more.

You don't cut starting talent without good reason. If you argue TNew is elite then you sure don't cut him. Wait and see. If he stays injured too much then the situation will take care of itself. Someone will step up and take the job and he will fade away. If not then his level of play will keep someone on the bench or he'll play the slot.

So stop being so hysterical about his groin. In fact too many of you are way too interested in this man's groin.
 
jobberone;2876616 said:
My two cents.

So stop being so hysterical about his groin. In fact too many of you are way too interested in this man's groin.

Hey its pre-season what else we going to talk about? The Young And The Restless? :)
 
Chocolate Lab;2878235 said:
Gotta love how Newman threads attract DCC posters like flies to stink.

Do we gotta? Because I don't really love it all that much.
 

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