Terrance Williams makes Mel's rookie rankings

[TheRomoSexual]

Hindsight is ultimately how we determine success or failure. People lose their jobs based on hindsight.

Yes, but when hindsight causes you to bash a solid draft because you think we should have drafted a guard who doesn't fit our scheme over a TE who has been fairly productive, and it's only been 5 games, I'd say your hindsight is absurdly premature.

 

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

I love this board because I always find something that gets me thinking. It irks me when common sense is thrown out the window. For example blaming the front office for players being hurt. I like where the offensive line is going and not seeing the center get bum rushed into Romo's lap like last year. There is no doubt that we are hurting on the defensive line. No pressure in last two games. If the front 4 can't create pressure then it'll be very difficult to implement the Tampa 2 scheme successfully. If somehow we could've gotten Richardson and Frederick?! Mind blown. Williams looked great last week and look forward to see him continue to improve.

 

[Mookie]

1 TD in his career so far. It is far too premature to call him a future star. Not that he won't be one, but let's not get ahead of the facts a bit.

 

[DogFace]

No, it means he didn't fit our scheme. This, it was BC's call, not Jerry's. So, basically people are crying that Jerry should have overruled BC...and those crying tend to be those who cry that Jerry has too much power with the draft.

Oh. Ok. I wonder how he doesn't fit our scheme but Leary does. Seem
Similar but Warford is more mobile/athletic.

 

[DogFace]

Hindsight is ultimately how we determine success or failure. People lose their jobs based on hindsight.

This is very smart. I love how people say hindsight 20bla bla. Yes. That's how we decide if we have a propensity to make bad decisions.

 

[CowboyManDan]

If I ever have another kid, I think I really like the name 'Barkevious.' For a boy, of course. That name would be ridiculous for a girl.

If I get a dog, that's the name I'm using!

 

[theogt]

This is very smart. I love how people say hindsight 20bla bla. Yes. That's how we decide if we have a propensity to make bad decisions.

No, it's not. If I bet only on hands that have a 60% chance of winning and I lose three in a row, those bets don't become bad decisions because of hindsight.

You should ONLY judge a decision based on the information that is available at the time of the decision. This is basic stuff here that too many people can't grasp.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Oh. Ok. I wonder how he doesn't fit our scheme but Leary does. Seem
Similar but Warford is more mobile/athletic.

How so? Leary had better numbers in every combine mobility category.

 

[BIGDen]

I agree, but our draft as a whole would look much better taking Warford in the 2nd round instead of Escobar.

We had a 10 year answer at one of the G spots staring us right in the face.

I totally agree but the team didn't like him at all apparently as he wasn't even on their board IIRC. As right as they were about TFred they were apparently very wrong about Warford. I know people will say he wasn't a good scheme fit in their eyes, but to not even have him on their board seems dumb IMO. All 5 of our OL are probably not "perfect" fits for our scheme, but if you can block well you'll help more than hurt the team. It's not like we have some tiny, super quick line that he couldn't play on. It would have been a great draft with Warford over Escobar, but Escobar has been ok with potential. It could have been much worse. Looking like a pretty good draft thus far.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

I totally agree but the team didn't like him at all apparently as he wasn't even on their board IIRC. As right as they were about TFred they were apparently very wrong about Warford. I know people will say he wasn't a good scheme fit in their eyes, but to not even have him on their board seems dumb IMO. All 5 of our OL are probably not "perfect" fits for our scheme, but if you can block well you'll help more than hurt the team. It's not like we have some tiny, super quick line that he couldn't play on. It would have been a great draft with Warford over Escobar, but Escobar has been ok with potential. It could have been much worse. Looking like a pretty good draft thus far.

There is a difference between drafting a perfect fit and drafting a guard who runs a 5.6.

 

[visionary]

I love this board because I always find something that gets me thinking. It irks me when common sense is thrown out the window. For example blaming the front office for players being hurt. I like where the offensive line is going and not seeing the center get bum rushed into Romo's lap like last year. There is no doubt that we are hurting on the defensive line. No pressure in last two games. If the front 4 can't create pressure then it'll be very difficult to implement the Tampa 2 scheme successfully. If somehow we could've gotten Richardson and Frederick?! Mind blown. Williams looked great last week and look forward to see him continue to improve.

How about posts about getting upset about something other posters have not said , sort of like posts "blaming the FO for players getting hurt"

Do those 'irk' you as well?

 

[visionary]

No, it's not. If I bet only on hands that have a 60% chance of winning and I lose three in a row, those bets don't become bad decisions because of hindsight.

You should ONLY judge a decision based on the information that is available at the time of the decision. This is basic stuff here that too many people can't grasp.

That may be true but you take the results and go back and reevaluate your evaluation process to learn from your successes and failures to improve your odds

You can only do that by using hindsight

 

[SportsGuru80]

T. Williams will be a good player for the Cowboys, he's developing into a really nice route runner if you break down the film.

 

[BIGDen]

There is a difference between drafting a perfect fit and drafting a guard who runs a 5.6.

Like Frederick, he was clearly a better player/prospect than that 40 time indicated. Frederick's 40 time was terrible too IIRC. Frederick also had poor bench numbers despite the fact that he was one of the strongest guys in the Wisconsin weight room and consistently played with great power in college. Warford not being on the board at all looked and looks like a mistake.

 

[Risen Star]

Cherry picking at that. 17 players were selected between Escobar and Warford. But it was a clear no brainer that Warford was a can't miss guy.

When I banged the drum for him pre, during and post draft, yeah...it was a can't miss guy.

The problem is you're just finding out how good he is now. You are me, two years ago.

 

[Risen Star]

Hindsight is ultimately how we determine success or failure. People lose their jobs based on hindsight.

That dose of truth will be accepted with the bad medicine face.

Get with the program or risk your fan card. As long as the Cowboys stick to their board, they had a good draft. It doesn't matter how the players actually play on the field.

 

[theogt]

That may be true but you take the results and go back and reevaluate your evaluation process to learn from your successes and failures to improve your odds

You can only do that by using hindsight

You can only use past results to determine future probabilities if that's what you mean. But you still don't judge decisions based on results.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Like Frederick, he was clearly a better player/prospect than that 40 time indicated. Frederick's 40 time was terrible too IIRC. Frederick also had poor bench numbers despite the fact that he was one of the strongest guys in the Wisconsin weight room and consistently played with great power in college. Warford not being on the board at all looked and looks like a mistake.

If you are going to have an unagile "anchor" in the ZBS, it should be the center. You can't have fat, slow guards.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

That dose of truth will be accepted with the bad medicine face.

Get with the program or risk your fan card. As long as the Cowboys stick to their board, they had a good draft. It doesn't matter how the players actually play on the field.

That isn't true. It's just that some except the Cowboys to stick to the fan's board, and others except the Cowboys to draft nothing but onlinemen. Both notions are silly.

 

[Risen Star]

That isn't true. It's just that some except the Cowboys to stick to the fan's board, and others except the Cowboys to draft nothing but onlinemen. Both notions are silly.

I don't know what's so silly about pointing out the Cowboys drafted an inferior player in the 2nd round. Larry Warford is a 10 year starter on this team. He's better than any G on the roster by a mile. You can spin it any way you want, the Cowboys made a mistake there. Add it to the list of mistakes they make on a yearly basis with personnel. The team won't get any better until they stop making those mistakes.

A top three of Frederick, Warford and Williams looks really good.

Frederick, Escobar, Williams....not so much.