Terrance Williams preferred Romo over Dak

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Steve just admit your rag to riches story was taken from you and that would make you more credible ( not that you don’t have sone credibility)

Your arguments are based more on emotion .

You can argue now the veteran made more sense because the rookie failed but the vet failed too against essentially the same team in GB with a better squad in 14

You’re crusade to argue with anyone who disagrees with you is apparent

Just say Tony was one of my favorite cowboys ever and I had hoped he’d have a chance to complete his legacy with a sb run

Unfortunately his legacy says the same as Dak at the moment and only one qb can change it
I think that's what hurts for a lot of them. Dak has a chance to change his legacy and Romo's is cemented..
 

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I think that's what hurts for a lot of them. Dak has a chance to change his legacy and Romo's is cemented..
I think they're afraid that Dak will win one more playoff game and thus be more successful than Romo. That is a good possibility. In the end it doesn't matter unless we start playing for titles. Dak is the only one that can change the narrative...well for most fans anyway.
 

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My take on both of the GB losses is that we didn't have a defense built for the playoffs. We've lucked our way into having a few decent defenses over the years, but our emphasis was always on the offense until McCarthy & Quinn got here.
 

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We are actually sitting here, caring what a failed player who is now playing in Mexico says about the QB situation.

I don't really have a preference between either. They have both been failures as far as I am concerned. And yes, I am an incredibly spoiled.

I just do not understand the "debate".

If Prescott does exactly what Romo did, why should we care who was better?
Sounds good.

Romo was a much better QB than this stiff.

Close your eyes and imagine Romo being completely incompetent against the 49ers in back to back playoff performances, one of which his defense is balling out. You can't.

It takes more than LEADERSHIP and sky points. You have to have talent.
 

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remind me/us why we care what "T'won't" says? I barely even recall him being a factor.
 

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OK dont kill the messenger...

This should be fun...:popcorn:


So. You’re saying that Romo in 2013 & 2014, in his 11th & 12th seasons in the NFL was a more savvy QB than Dak was in the first 3 years of his career (2016-2018)?

Huh. That’s astonishing!

Question: How good was Romo in his first 3 seasons, from 2003 - 2005?
 
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I mean that's a possibility I guess. I think his body telling him retire is a more reasonable reason as opposed to not wanting to play for anyone else.

I can't imagine Romo not wanting the chance to stick it to the organization who benched him for a rookie.

But its certainly possible.

And yes I do think he was willing to finish the season......I don't think the Cowboys wanted him to honestly.

I don't think people remember how bad things got in 2014 or maybe it was '15 but Romo had to get shot up every Wednesday just to get his body ready for Gameday....the signs were there long before 2016 I feel.
What I mean is that I think he would've been willing to risk playing as a starter for the Cowboys, but not for another team. As for "sticking it" to the Cowboys, I think his concession speech shows that he had no interest in being vindictive and petty.

You're right about them not wanting him to finish the season, otherwise he would have.

He did need to get shot up every week in one season, and maybe he would have, had he continued to play, but he was a warrior his whole career, and I'm guessing his wife and family had more to do with his retirement than he did.
 

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So. You’re saying that Romo in 2013 & 2014, in his 11th & 12th seasons in the NFL was a more savvy QB than Dak was in the first 3 years of his career (2016-2018)?

Huh. That’s astonishing!

Question: How good was Romo in his first 3 seasons, from 2003 - 2005?
Did Romo ever start a game in his first 3 seasons? I've heard stories that the team thought he was their best QB, but Parcells didn't think he was ready.
 

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Did Romo ever start a game in his first 3 seasons? I've heard stories that the team thought he was their best QB, but Parcells didn't think he was ready.
To be clear, I think the Cowboys should have brought Romo back at the end of 2016. At that point, he was still better than Dak. If he got injured again, then they could’ve gone back to Dak.

But I also believe that Romo, after two straight seasons of being knocked out early in the season, or before the season, was not a viable alternative for the Cowboys in 2017 or beyond. Perhaps he might have been able to lead the Cowboys to a Super Bowl in 2016. But I still would’ve moved on to Dak in 2017.
 

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I think they're afraid that Dak will win one more playoff game and thus be more successful than Romo. That is a good possibility. In the end it doesn't matter unless we start playing for titles. Dak is the only one that can change the narrative...well for most fans anyway.
That would not make him more successful than Romo. Not even winning a championship would unless somehow Dak morphs into a QB that can carry teams.

You can win a title with Dak just like you could with other middling quarterbacks who have won them.

It takes a different formula, and a guy like Dan Quinn could possibly provide that. But Dak is not going to will this team to anything with his shotgun arm. He just needs to bus drive against the really good teams, which he so far can't do.
 

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That's all very true but I feel like you are downplaying the QB spot. You did pick some extremely average (and LUCKY!) Qb's to make your case. And I apologize, I do not have anything as specific as you to counter...
Those average, and lucky, quarterbacks are what makes the case. If we're going to say essentially you can't hide the quarterback, then there can't be any cases where the QB wasn't at the center of the success. However, there are cases throughout NFL history where these average NFL starters got Super Bowl victories because of the team they were on. There are also cases where these great NFL starters got Super Bowl victories because of the teams they were on.

How many rings would Aikman have now if he had been on a team that didn't have the No. 1 defense, that didn't have the NFL's rushing leader, that didn't have the right head coach at the right time? Those elements, aspects of the game, keep it from being all about the quarterback and allow the QB to just play his part and not have to be relied on to be the savior of the team throughout the postseason. Again, sometimes that part is bigger and sometimes it is smaller.

Although I used Eli as an example earlier, throughout New York's postseason runs in 2007 and 2011, Eli did make plays to help his team win. However, if the defense had not played as well as it had, then those plays would have gotten overshadowed, especially in the two games where his numbers were not great, by the plays he did not make. The narrative would have been that Eli wasn't good enough, which he wasn't without the defensive effort. Just like Romo wasn't good enough in 2014 against Green Bay because of the defensive effort, because of Murray's fumble, because of Dez's drop, etc.
 

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My agenda? I literally replied to his post. This is why you shouldn't jump in grown folks discussion because you don't know what's going on....but you want to talk about "agenda".
Hey, remember the Olympics........ :muttley: .......agenda no matter how many playoff games Prescotts loses!
 

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Did Romo ever start a game in his first 3 seasons? I've heard stories that the team thought he was their best QB, but Parcells didn't think he was ready.
Romo himself said he needed a lot of work on the mechanical aspects of the game. He got that from David Lee and developed. It might have been quite ugly if he'd started his first year. Exciting but ugly.

"I would not be where I am today if it weren't for Coach Lee," said current Dallas Cowboys Quarterback Tony Romo, who Lee tutored Romo's first four years (2003-2006) in the National Football League. "I was so raw when I first came to Dallas. My knowledge of the game, my throwing motion, everything was just not good enough for the NFL, to be honest.
 

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So. You’re saying that Romo in 2013 & 2014, in his 11th & 12th seasons in the NFL was a more savvy QB than Dak was in the first 3 years of his career (2016-2018)?

Huh. That’s astonishing!

Question: How good was Romo in his first 3 seasons, from 2003 - 2005?
I'm not saying anything - the video is about Williams PREFERRING Romo, he never said Tony was better and he actually had very high praise for Dak.

As for the obvious point that Romo was a seasoned vet as apposed to Dak at that point - I wrote that later on in the thread.
 

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Sounds good.

Romo was a much better QB than this stiff.

Close your eyes and imagine Romo being completely incompetent against the 49ers in back to back playoff performances, one of which his defense is balling out. You can't.

It takes more than LEADERSHIP and sky points. You have to have talent.
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Sounds good.

Romo was a much better QB than this stiff.

Close your eyes and imagine Romo being completely incompetent against the 49ers in back to back playoff performances, one of which his defense is balling out. You can't.

It takes more than LEADERSHIP and sky points. You have to have talent.
The difference is that Romo would have teased us with the possibility of winning only to throw the game sealing interception on our last drive.
 

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That would not make him more successful than Romo. Not even winning a championship would unless somehow Dak morphs into a QB that can carry teams.

You can win a title with Dak just like you could with other middling quarterbacks who have won them.

It takes a different formula, and a guy like Dan Quinn could possibly provide that. But Dak is not going to will this team to anything with his shotgun arm. He just needs to bus drive against the really good teams, which he so far can't do.
Well Romo couldn't will his team to victory either so he and Dak have something in common.
 
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