Terrell Owens defenders???

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That's an excellent point on the much better weight programs and systems in place to be stronger and such.

I hadn't given any thought to that fact and that does bring up a very interesting set of things to think about on his behalf as well.
 

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Gentlemen, this may just be that one rare occasions to take some advice from an Eagles fan when I say "let it go!"

Been there; done that ...you'll be a stronger team without T.O.

No regrets!

PT
 

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I caught a glimpse of Rome Is Burning earlier today and saw at the bottom of the screen "Owens Off To A Bad Start In Buffalo?". What was that about?
 

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I really feel sorry for all you haters. I really do. Because you guys may not ever get it. It has been explained to you over and over, but you cannot see, because of the hatred.

I will say this to the knucklehead that still does not believe other teams were after Owens.

It is real simple, he signed with the team that offerd him the most, knowing that he is and will be a year older, and yes declining, but they are willing to take the chance that he has not declined as much as the other teams that wanted to low ball him thinks he has.

Plain and simple. Offers were there, ask yourself, if you would have taken a lower pay, and more years or wnet with the 1yr, higher guaranteed money?
Heck he got a raise, even if it is one year.
He takes 2009, and uses his play if it has not declined as much as others think, and he gets another year(2010) for about the same amount of money, maybe they can squeeze a little more, or heck even if he drops down to 5 mil for one season.

Heck I would take 3-6 mil for a single season guaranteed, my last few years in the league, that adds up. When T.O. finally retires he will have a lot of money, he probably has more than doubled the money his old agent robbed him of.

25 mil his first contract with the Boys. then he extends is contract and he gets more guaranteed money which equals to what 12 -15 mil, and the 6.5 mil from the Bills that is how much within the last 4yrs?

I'd say Owens is making out like a fat cat that is not fat.
 

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BHendri5;2687062 said:
I really feel sorry for all you haters. I really do. Because you guys may not ever get it. It has been explained to you over and over, but you cannot see, because of the hatred.

I will say this to the knucklehead that still does not believe other teams were after Owens.

It is real simple, he signed with the team that offerd him the most, knowing that he is and will be a year older, and yes declining, but they are willing to take the chance that he has not declined as much as the other teams that wanted to low ball him thinks he has.

Plain and simple. Offers were there, ask yourself, if you would have taken a lower pay, and more years or wnet with the 1yr, higher guaranteed money?
Heck he got a raise, even if it is one year.
He takes 2009, and uses his play if it has not declined as much as others think, and he gets another year(2010) for about the same amount of money, maybe they can squeeze a little more, or heck even if he drops down to 5 mil for one season.

Heck I would take 3-6 mil for a single season guaranteed, my last few years in the league, that adds up. When T.O. finally retires he will have a lot of money, he probably has more than doubled the money his old agent robbed him of.

25 mil his first contract with the Boys. then he extends is contract and he gets more guaranteed money which equals to what 12 -15 mil, and the 6.5 mil from the Bills that is how much within the last 4yrs?

I'd say Owens is making out like a fat cat that is not fat.
not 1 contender gave him an offer cause if they did he would've taken a pay cut to try and win a ring. but no contenders gave him an offer and that's why he's in buffalo.
 

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Rampage;2687084 said:
not 1 contender gave him an offer cause if they did he would've taken a pay cut to try and win a ring. but no contenders gave him an offer and that's why he's in buffalo.


Bingo.

He took the best money, from the few non-contenders who were after him. I'm sure Oakland probably sniffed around for him as well.

The guy didn't have a ton of options and the fact that he quickly signed with Buffalo clearly shows that.
 

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Juke99;2680067 said:
Here is my response to everyone of them...we don't have to defend our point of view. The NFL says it better than we ever could.

The guy took a ONE year contract (as I've noted, even MANNY got two years from the Dodgers)...he signed his ONE year contract just two days after getting cut. NOW why on earth would he do that if other teams were calling? He wouldn't. He did it because NO ONE was calling. He signed this contract with the Buffalo Bills...read that again....cold weather, no national exposure and surely not one of the NFL flagship franchises for Owens who is all about press coverage. He signed the contract with a team that at best, is mediocre...with slim playoff chances..and he did this at the end of his career when one would think he'd sign on with a team (if he cared about winning) that had a shot to win so that he could experience a run a that elusive trophy that he's never won.

Oh...and as another clue to his talent level vs how much of a pain in the backside he is...just stop and think about it...the Cowboys took a NINE MILLION DOLLAR cap hit to release him...and the guy who released him was his biggest supporter.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

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Juke99;2680067 said:
Here is my response to everyone of them...we don't have to defend our point of view. The NFL says it better than we ever could.

The guy took a ONE year contract (as I've noted, even MANNY got two years from the Dodgers)...he signed his ONE year contract just two days after getting cut. NOW why on earth would he do that if other teams were calling? He wouldn't. He did it because NO ONE was calling. He signed this contract with the Buffalo Bills...read that again....cold weather, no national exposure and surely not one of the NFL flagship franchises for Owens who is all about press coverage. He signed the contract with a team that at best, is mediocre...with slim playoff chances..and he did this at the end of his career when one would think he'd sign on with a team (if he cared about winning) that had a shot to win so that he could experience a run a that elusive trophy that he's never won.

Oh...and as another clue to his talent level vs how much of a pain in the backside he is...just stop and think about it...the Cowboys took a NINE MILLION DOLLAR cap hit to release him...and the guy who released him was his biggest supporter.

On the nosey.
 

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khiladi;2681144 said:
And yet, Garrett is still around... BTW, it was when Barry was around that the Detroit Lions went farther than they ever did I believe in the play-offs, making it to the 92 NFC championship ganme, after Sanders ran all over our Cowboys and had one of the most breath-taking runs in NFL history...

Yet Greenbay held him to -13 yards with ease kicking them from the playoffs because he kept trying to bounce it outside and he would never put his head down and get the tough yards
 

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BHendri5;2687062 said:
I really feel sorry for all you haters. I really do. Because you guys may not ever get it. It has been explained to you over and over, but you cannot see, because of the hatred.

I will say this to the knucklehead that still does not believe other teams were after Owens.

It is real simple, he signed with the team that offerd him the most, knowing that he is and will be a year older, and yes declining, but they are willing to take the chance that he has not declined as much as the other teams that wanted to low ball him thinks he has.

Plain and simple. Offers were there, ask yourself, if you would have taken a lower pay, and more years or wnet with the 1yr, higher guaranteed money?
Heck he got a raise, even if it is one year.
He takes 2009, and uses his play if it has not declined as much as others think, and he gets another year(2010) for about the same amount of money, maybe they can squeeze a little more, or heck even if he drops down to 5 mil for one season.

Heck I would take 3-6 mil for a single season guaranteed, my last few years in the league, that adds up. When T.O. finally retires he will have a lot of money, he probably has more than doubled the money his old agent robbed him of.

25 mil his first contract with the Boys. then he extends is contract and he gets more guaranteed money which equals to what 12 -15 mil, and the 6.5 mil from the Bills that is how much within the last 4yrs?

I'd say Owens is making out like a fat cat that is not fat.

Why do you label anyone that does not like him haters.

I never hated TO; I never wanted him on this team; I never liked him period thought he was bad for the team concept. There is no hate towards him from me. heck I disliked Deion and was glad to see him leave Dallas but again no hate or malice.

TO was very Talented he put up big numbers in his career including in Dallas; there where issues clearly in the locker room. Was he the entire issue ? no he was part of issue. The team chose which side of the locker room they where going to build around and it was not a 35 year old wr.

Heck Wade Phillips is a clown IMO I think he is an average Headcoach at best but I do not hate him either.

Lets say I just dislike TO and I am not heartbroken he is gone.
 

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BHendri5;2687062 said:
I really feel sorry for all you haters. I really do. Because you guys may not ever get it. It has been explained to you over and over, but you cannot see, because of the hatred.

I will say this to the knucklehead that still does not believe other teams were after Owens.

It is real simple, he signed with the team that offerd him the most, knowing that he is and will be a year older, and yes declining, but they are willing to take the chance that he has not declined as much as the other teams that wanted to low ball him thinks he has.

Plain and simple. Offers were there, ask yourself, if you would have taken a lower pay, and more years or wnet with the 1yr, higher guaranteed money?
Heck he got a raise, even if it is one year.
He takes 2009, and uses his play if it has not declined as much as others think, and he gets another year(2010) for about the same amount of money, maybe they can squeeze a little more, or heck even if he drops down to 5 mil for one season.

Heck I would take 3-6 mil for a single season guaranteed, my last few years in the league, that adds up. When T.O. finally retires he will have a lot of money, he probably has more than doubled the money his old agent robbed him of.

25 mil his first contract with the Boys. then he extends is contract and he gets more guaranteed money which equals to what 12 -15 mil, and the 6.5 mil from the Bills that is how much within the last 4yrs?

I'd say Owens is making out like a fat cat that is not fat.
He only got one offer, from Buffalo. So he signed with the only team that would take him.
 

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Vtwin;2680943 said:
Still no answer to this question.... hmmmmmm.

In my opinion everything he did to punch his ticket out of town was done prior to his arrival in town. He'll never be allowed to live down the rep he earned as a 49er and an Eagle. He will always have a mic stuck in his face and every "journalist" with some white space to fill will try and bait him into coughing up some controversial soundbites.

Dallas being the media magnet that it already is I can see the decision to let TO go simply because of the attention his past attracts. I've read nothing to convince me he was a real problem beyond the attention he attracts.

The same sort of decision making process that lead to letting Randy Moss go by in the draft. It's too bad this team isn't tougher and much better lead then it is.

Good post.
 

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BHendri5;2687062 said:
I really feel sorry for all you haters. I really do. Because you guys may not ever get it. It has been explained to you over and over, but you cannot see, because of the hatred.

I will say this to the knucklehead that still does not believe other teams were after Owens.

It is real simple, he signed with the team that offerd him the most, knowing that he is and will be a year older, and yes declining, but they are willing to take the chance that he has not declined as much as the other teams that wanted to low ball him thinks he has.

Plain and simple. Offers were there, ask yourself, if you would have taken a lower pay, and more years or wnet with the 1yr, higher guaranteed money?
Heck he got a raise, even if it is one year.
He takes 2009, and uses his play if it has not declined as much as others think, and he gets another year(2010) for about the same amount of money, maybe they can squeeze a little more, or heck even if he drops down to 5 mil for one season.

Heck I would take 3-6 mil for a single season guaranteed, my last few years in the league, that adds up. When T.O. finally retires he will have a lot of money, he probably has more than doubled the money his old agent robbed him of.

25 mil his first contract with the Boys. then he extends is contract and he gets more guaranteed money which equals to what 12 -15 mil, and the 6.5 mil from the Bills that is how much within the last 4yrs?

I'd say Owens is making out like a fat cat that is not fat.


:p: Well, this knucklehead hater thinks you are WAY off the mark.

Owens/Rosenhaus took a ONE year offer, within two days of Owens being released because that was the best offer? That's too funny...talk about knuckeheads. 48 hours isn't enough time to even pick up the phone and talk to all the teams.

Ya think if there were so many offers coming in, he might have waited more than 48 hours to get oh, I dunno...maybe a two or three year offer? Ya think? And maybe an offer from, oh, I dunno...a better team than the Bills.

He took a one year offer from the Buffalo Bills within 48 hours of being released because both he and Rosenhaus knew, there weren't going to be any other offers, other than garbage offers because Owens has burned too many bridges.
 

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Juke99;2688870 said:
:p: Well, this knucklehead hater thinks you are WAY off the mark.

Owens/Rosenhaus took a ONE year offer, within two days of Owens being released because that was the best offer? That's too funny...talk about knuckeheads. 48 hours isn't enough time to even pick up the phone and talk to all the teams.

Ya think if there were so many offers coming in, he might have waited more than 48 hours to get oh, I dunno...maybe a two or three year offer? Ya think? And maybe an offer from, oh, I dunno...a better team than the Bills.

He took a one year offer from the Buffalo Bills within 48 hours of being released because both he and Rosenhaus knew, there weren't going to be any other offers, other than garbage offers because Owens has burned too many bridges.

On the nosey....sue me :p: ....I'd also add he took a one year deal because in his mind he will earn another big contract even though he'll be 37 or 38. :rolleyes:
 

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I think he should go ahead and just retire. No, not because I dislike him. But because he is going to be seen soon as just hanging on for stats. That's the worst thing you can say about an aging athlete. If he retires now people will say he could have done so much more if he hadn't retired.
 

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He only got one offer, from Buffalo. So he signed with the only team that would take him.
Agreed and i also think they took the offer because i think THE PLAYER and the AGENT did not want to be on the market to long and hearing about how nobody wants him and since that would embarass him,he took the only offer he could get in the shortest amount of time just to save face,imo:star:
 

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bigE79;2688948 said:
Agreed and i also think they took the offer because i think THE PLAYER and the AGENT did not want to be on the market to long and hearing about how nobody wants him and since that would embarass him,he took the only offer he could get in the shortest amount of time just to save face,imo:star:

as a great philosopher once said, "On the nosey"
 
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