Terrence Williams, Baylor pick ay 74

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theogt;5066650 said:
Frederick helps redzone offense probably more so than the others, to be honest. Our ability to run up the middle in the redzone has been embarrassing recently. Frederick will move the line.

I sure hope so.

Definitely says more man than zone blocking to me.

And that says to me that if they do hopefully sign the free agent RT, it would likely be Clabo over Winston.

I just hope they do something there.
 

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SDCowboy85;5066672 said:
I'm pretty sure he's expected to be a starter this season. 3rd WR is essentially a starter.

I think they wanted more size at the #3 outside receiver position.

Austin in the slot more, while he's still here.
 

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stasheroo;5066678 said:
I think they wanted more size at the #3 outside receiver position.

Austin in the slot more, while he's still here.
That's my guess.
 

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stasheroo;5066652 said:
I see more Jimmy Smith, but its early.

Great comparison! Plus he's a life long Cowboy fan! Grew up dreaming to play for the Cowboys! How many players actually can say that!
 

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I really like this pick, its put up health wise for Miles this year this guy has same size. Only pick I LOVE esp at this spot.
 

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rat2k8;5066644 said:
Slow possession WR, No deep threat. Once again some Cowboy fans showing their ignorance. Do some research. This kid will be the real deal.
What research? You are talking nonsense.
Combine Results:
40 yard dash - 4.52 (18th among receivers)
32.5 and 9'11" inch vertical and broad jumps.

He is slow compared to other receivers.
 

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baddude;5067052 said:
What research? You are talking nonsense.
Combine Results:
40 yard dash - 4.52 (18th among receivers)
32.5 and 9'11" inch vertical and broad jumps.

He is slow compared to other receivers.

Everyone is ____ compared to ____. What does that even mean?
 

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baddude;5067052 said:
What research? You are talking nonsense.
Combine Results:
40 yard dash - 4.52 (18th among receivers)
32.5 and 9'11" inch vertical and broad jumps.

He is slow compared to other receivers.

Those times are unofficial. Half of the receivers who ran "faster" are all clustered within about 0.02 seconds of Williams, which is within the measurement error and undetectable to the eye. It's not slow -- it's almost exactly on par with all the other draftable receivers who are taller than 5'11".

Go look up what Dez Bryant ran at his pro day.
 

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NinePointOh;5067303 said:
Those times are unofficial. Half of the receivers who ran "faster" are all clustered within about 0.02 seconds of Williams, which is within the measurement error and undetectable to the eye. It's not slow -- it's almost exactly on par with all the other draftable receivers who are taller than 5'11".

Go look up what Dez Bryant ran at his pro day.
That is the official time. You made up the .02 margin of error. The point that I'm making is that he is not fast like some people are claiming. He is fast like Dez; Dez is not a burner.
 

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baddude;5067364 said:
You made up the .02 margin of error.

Nope. I didn't say .02 is the margin of error. I said .02 is easily within the measurement error, which is absolutely true if you know how they're measured. In fact, .02 is an extremely conservative estimate -- the actual error is likely many times larger than that. If you weren't aware, the 40-yard-dash clock at the combine is done with partial electronic timing, which means the clock is stopped with a laser, but has to be started by hand. But humans are simply not capable of timing the push of a button consistently with accuracy down to a few hundredths of a second.

According to one source, 40-yard-dash times are expected to be, on average, about 0.2-0.24 seconds different when they eventually convert to full-electronic timing. That's ten times bigger than 0.02. Some reading: http://********.com/5988939/three-g...lded-receiver-actually-ran-a-419-40+yard-dash

And, even if you could measure a difference of 0.02 seconds with sufficient precision, it would still be inconsequential and virtually undetectable to the eye. Hardly the difference between "slow" and "not slow."

The point that I'm making is that he is not fast like some people are claiming. He is fast like Dez; Dez is not a burner.
No, the point you're making is that Williams is "slow." That was your word, not anybody else's. Nobody's claiming he's Trindon Holliday.
 

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baddude;5067052 said:
What research? You are talking nonsense.
Combine Results:
40 yard dash - 4.52 (18th among receivers)
32.5 and 9'11" inch vertical and broad jumps.

He is slow compared to other receivers.

Its not always about Combine numbers... Ask Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice and Chris Carter.. And no i'm not comparing Williams to those 3, but Football speed and productivity are more important..
 

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baddude;5067364 said:
That is the official time. You made up the .02 margin of error. The point that I'm making is that he is not fast like some people are claiming. He is fast like Dez; Dez is not a burner.

All Dez does is stop in the endzone.......that is slow enough for me!
 

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Has it been mentioned yet that supposedly he grew up a Cowboys fan?

“It feels like a dream, to be honest, to be drafted by a team that I grew up watching and always liked,” Williams said. “To get a chance to play for them, this just means the world to me.”
 

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NinePointOh;5067444 said:
Nope. I didn't say .02 is the margin of error. I said .02 is easily within the measurement error, which is absolutely true if you know how they're measured. In fact, .02 is an extremely conservative estimate -- the actual error is likely many times larger than that. If you weren't aware, the 40-yard-dash clock at the combine is done with partial electronic timing, which means the clock is stopped with a laser, but has to be started by hand. But humans are simply not capable of timing the push of a button consistently with accuracy down to a few hundredths of a second.

According to one source, 40-yard-dash times are expected to be, on average, about 0.2-0.24 seconds different when they eventually convert to full-electronic timing. That's ten times bigger than 0.02. Some reading: http://********.com/5988939/three-g...lded-receiver-actually-ran-a-419-40+yard-dash

And, even if you could measure a difference of 0.02 seconds with sufficient precision, it would still be inconsequential and virtually undetectable to the eye. Hardly the difference between "slow" and "not slow."

No, the point you're making is that Williams is "slow." That was your word, not anybody else's. Nobody's claiming he's Trindon Holliday.
I'm only stating facts. It does not matter how they measure the 40 yard dash at the combine. The point is that it is official and standardized and it allows us to make comparisons.

The clock on the combine starts with motion. I recommend you look at the NFL network combine coverage. Your blog link is wrong. Anybody can say anything on the internet.

I'm not claiming that he will not be a good wide receiver. I can change my wording and claim he is not fast.
 

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baddude;5067604 said:
I'm only stating facts. It does not matter how they measure the 40 yard dash at the combine. The point is that it is official and standardized and it allows us to make comparisons.

Baloney. Even "official" times are measured with error. You can try to compare whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you're comparing anything other than random error. Are you at all familiar with science, by chance?

The clock on the combine starts with motion. I recommend you look at the NFL network combine coverage. Your blog link is wrong. Anybody can say anything on the internet.

Nope. Sorry, that's just not true. Here's a CBS Sports article with information directly from the group that actually runs the Combine. It confirms, and I quote, "On any one 40-yard run at the combine, a player has three times. Two are started and stopped by hand-held watches and one that is started by hand and ended by an electronic beam."
 
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