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Dallas;2397324 said:
I hear ya and understand. I make fun w/ you all the time regarding TX/OU. I hope you take what I say in that regard (just funnin). We had our issues in the past over these games but I think we understand we are both rugged fans until the end. I respect you for that.

I made my reference to you because I like you. Its just me stirrin the pot. I hope you didn't take what I said to heart. I don't mean to sound like I am being cross w/ you.

I think you and I are similar in that regard. We make our funnies w/ a slight litle GIG back at our ole buddy crying in his beer.

I was crying in my beer after the game. :p:

Fair 'nuf, and I appreciate your candor. No hard feelings here, trust that.

Now, go beat those overrated dust farmers, and BIG too!!

BOOMER!!

~I just threw-up a little in my mouth I think!?~


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DallasCowpoke;2397357 said:
Fair 'nuf, and I appreciate your candor. No hard feelings here, trust that.

Now, go beat those overrated dust farmers, and BIG too!!

BOOMER!!

~I just threw-up a little in my mouth I think!?~


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I hope the Sooners are up to the task. I think the offense is. Its the defense I am worried about.

Hopefully they can get it turned around on the D. Our LB corp are just a bunch of babies out there now. Learning w/ every snap.

We got some bad news yesterday. Austin English could miss 2-3 games. That wont help the D any.

We'll try and do our part thought. Thanks for the words Poke.

HOOKEM.................... :shoot4:
 

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Dallas;2396245 said:
Some classy horn fans in this thread.


Well - those w/o excuses are classy.


You didn't see me crying w/ excuses when Oklahoma lost to Texas.


You know who you are. :D

excuses? what is the difference between excuses and analysis.......the perspective of the reader, that is all.

I will take the bait, cause I was complaining about the officiating a lot. I feel that TT got away with a lot on Saturday, especially offensive holding and illegal hands to the face by their OL. You cannot grab the facemask of the DE or DT and drive their head backwards, that is a penalty....but the refs never called it.

TT played out of their minds. That defense, especially the front 4 looked like the Steel Curtain or the late 70s Doomsday. They were living in the backfield the entire 1st half. Colt was running for his life. TT had some nice success running the football and their WRs seemed to always be open. Those kids played the game of their lives.

As far as Texas, they didn't run the ball very well. They also had far too many dropped passes. Shipley dropped a few, including one that could have been a TD, but definitely would have been a 1st down. almost all of the Texas drops negated what could have been at least a first down.

The clock management at the end of the game was not very good. They should have taken more time off the clock before they scored the go ahead TD. If they would have waited 20 seconds before running that one play, even if they scored, TT would have only been left with about 1:05 instead of 1:31. Then, TT got a very nice KO return. If the Texas kick coverage team ever needed to step up, that was the time to do so. Instead TT got the ball at the 40 with 1 timeout and 1:31 left.

Even after all of that, if Gideon merely catches that tipped ball, it goes to Texas with 8 seconds left.....they kneel and win by 1. he dropped it, and Crabtree scored on the next play.....mainly cause the safety didn't do his job and also, Brown didn't learn from the first half when Harrell and Crabtree did the same thing to him.

So prop to Tech....

and next time your team loses, why dont you show up and take the verbal beating. At least us Horns fans were here in masses. We didnt run and hide.

HOOK EM HORNS
 

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If TT beats OSU, I am rooting for them to run the table.....cause I dont want OU to beat them and then have to deal with three 1 loss teams and all the tiebreaker nonsense. It would also give a Big 12 team a shot at the National Championship, since TT would have beaten UT, OU, and OSU.....

If TT loses to OSU, I am rooting for OU to beat them. This would give UT the Big 12 South title and send them to the Big 12 Championship and still have a decent shot to play for the National Championship.

HOOK EM HORNS
 

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Biggems;2397546 said:
excuses? what is the difference between excuses and analysis.......the perspective of the reader, that is all.

I will take the bait, cause I was complaining about the officiating a lot. I feel that TT got away with a lot on Saturday, especially offensive holding and illegal hands to the face by their OL. You cannot grab the facemask of the DE or DT and drive their head backwards, that is a penalty....but the refs never called it.

TT played out of their minds. That defense, especially the front 4 looked like the Steel Curtain or the late 70s Doomsday. They were living in the backfield the entire 1st half. Colt was running for his life. TT had some nice success running the football and their WRs seemed to always be open. Those kids played the game of their lives.

As far as Texas, they didn't run the ball very well. They also had far too many dropped passes. Shipley dropped a few, including one that could have been a TD, but definitely would have been a 1st down. almost all of the Texas drops negated what could have been at least a first down.

The clock management at the end of the game was not very good. They should have taken more time off the clock before they scored the go ahead TD. If they would have waited 20 seconds before running that one play, even if they scored, TT would have only been left with about 1:05 instead of 1:31. Then, TT got a very nice KO return. If the Texas kick coverage team ever needed to step up, that was the time to do so. Instead TT got the ball at the 40 with 1 timeout and 1:31 left.

Even after all of that, if Gideon merely catches that tipped ball, it goes to Texas with 8 seconds left.....they kneel and win by 1. he dropped it, and Crabtree scored on the next play.....mainly cause the safety didn't do his job and also, Brown didn't learn from the first half when Harrell and Crabtree did the same thing to him.

So prop to Tech....

and next time your team loses, why dont you show up and take the verbal beating. At least us Horns fans were here in masses. We didnt run and hide.

HOOK EM HORNS

It's not just that Tech got away with all the holds and the hands to the face it's the fact that every one and their dog knew it was going to happen. That's what was soooooo damn frustrating.
 

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jimmy40;2397605 said:
It's not just that Tech got away with all the holds and the hands to the face it's the fact that every one and their dog knew it was going to happen. That's what was soooooo damn frustrating.
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all freaking game long. and if you didn't notice, that's hands to the face and holding on the same play, neither called.
 

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I haven't been on since before the game started, and just wanted to say congrats to the Raiders fans. That was hard to watch after the comeback by the Longhorns only to have Tech score with :01 on the clock. And having to work with a lot of Raider fans... ah well.
 

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Doomsday101;2397061 said:
Tech plays OSU 1st a loss to OSU will drop them but they still have the tie breaker over Texas. So hopefully when OU facing Tech they will not be ranked that high and a Tech loss to OU will still be needed if that Happens Texas goes to the Big 12 not Oklahoma and chances are will face Mizz once again that will be more than enough to get Texas past OU who will not make the big 12 championship game.

i hope you're right.. we'll see though.

all i know is tech better lose or they're gonna go into norman ranked 2 or 1. that's just not good for texas.

the conference championship definitely plays to ut's advantage, but they need to take care of business against Kansas, then possibly KU again in the conference game.

ou will lose in stillwater so this whole discussion is meaningless.
 

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Hank Johnson;2398471 said:
i hope you're right.. we'll see though.

all i know is tech better lose or they're gonna go into norman ranked 2 or 1. that's just not good for texas.

the conference championship definitely plays to ut's advantage, but they need to take care of business against Kansas, then possibly KU again in the conference game.

ou will lose in stillwater so this whole discussion is meaningless.

I could careless about Oklahoma but I do know that if at the end of the season if Tech and Texas are tied with 1 loss then Tech goes to the Big 12 Championship. Texas holds the tie breaker over OU and OSU so if Texas and OU or OSU are tied at the end Texas goes to the Big 12 and OU can't leap frog Texas without making it to the Big 12 Championship game. Right not Tech has 3 games left 2 of the tough games with OSU and OU. Texas will need Tech to lose both of those games and win out if they hope to make it to the Big 12 Championship. As for KU they are a good team but I think Missouri is a better team and will win the Big 12 North
 

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Doomsday101;2399141 said:
I could careless about Oklahoma but I do know that if at the end of the season if Tech and Texas are tied with 1 loss then Tech goes to the Big 12 Championship. Texas holds the tie breaker over OU and OSU so if Texas and OU or OSU are tied at the end Texas goes to the Big 12 and OU can't leap frog Texas without making it to the Big 12 Championship game. Right not Tech has 3 games left 2 of the tough games with OSU and OU. Texas will need Tech to lose both of those games and win out if they hope to make it to the Big 12 Championship. As for KU they are a good team but I think Missouri is a better team and will win the Big 12 North

if there is a three way tie of 1 loss teams, doesn't the team with the highest ranking automatically goto the conference title game? If Tech is 1 loss, they have the edge over texas. texas obviously over ou, and ou over tech.

if ou beats an undefeated tech, they will jump tech and texas.
 

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Hank Johnson;2399399 said:
if there is a three way tie of 1 loss teams, doesn't the team with the highest ranking automatically goto the conference title game? If Tech is 1 loss, they have the edge over texas. texas obviously over ou, and ou over tech.

if ou beats an undefeated tech, they will jump tech and texas.

Not necessary. As I said OU faces Tech after OSU plays them this week. An OSU win will drop Tech out of the spot they are currently hold in the BCS. As for OU they have Tech and OSU remaining on their schedule and Texas has the easiest road compared to the rest.
 

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Doomsday101;2399435 said:
Not necessary. As I said OU faces Tech after OSU plays them this week. An OSU win will drop Tech out of the spot they are currently hold in the BCS. As for OU they have Tech and OSU remaining on their schedule and Texas has the easiest road compared to the rest.

you're proving my point to you.

you are automatically assuming that osu will defeat tech ---in luboock---. and right now, ou NEEDS the toughest road. the only way they have a chance is to defeat high ranked teams.

now if osu wins, as i said earlier. we will all be fine. ou's only chance would be a bcs game (which disgusts me because they will just go lose again).
 

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Hank Johnson;2399492 said:
you're proving my point to you.

you are automatically assuming that osu will defeat tech ---in luboock---. and right now, ou NEEDS the toughest road. the only way they have a chance is to defeat high ranked teams.

now if osu wins, as i said earlier. we will all be fine. ou's only chance would be a bcs game (which disgusts me because they will just go lose again).

I don't care about OU if they win it then so be it, my concern is the Horns and the Horns only. If you want Tech to beat OU good for you I want my Horns to make it to the big 12 and chances are it will take both an OSU win and a OU win over Tech to achive it.
 

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Wow- This thread took off again. I thought Poke and I killed it.

Hank and Doom need a room. :D


No offense but come on Horn fans. What is the deal w/ the yeah buts? That is comical that you are basically saying the refs took the game from you.


Look at all the holds (Like not a single guy on UT ever held and not get called)

Look at all the hands to the face (Like not a single guy at UT ever held and not get called)

I am sure more even went on that wasn't called.

It happens w/ every game. Calls are made and calls are missed.


I don't want to be over there w/ some of you folks giving excuses as to WHY Oklahoma lost to Texas. They LOST. I won't blame it on anyone or anything. A W is a W...regardless however you want to spin it.

Good game Tech. Great win folks.

NEXT GAME
 

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Dallas;2399698 said:
Wow- This thread took off again. I thought Poke and I killed it.

Hank and Doom need a room. :D


No offense but come on Horn fans. What is the deal w/ the yeah buts? That is comical that you are basically saying the refs took the game from you.


Look at all the holds (Like not a single guy on UT ever held and not get called)

Look at all the hands to the face (Like not a single guy at UT ever held and not get called)

I am sure more even went on that wasn't called.

It happens w/ every game. Calls are made and calls are missed.


I don't want to be over there w/ some of you folks giving excuses as to WHY Oklahoma lost to Texas. They LOST. I won't blame it on anyone or anything. A W is a W...regardless however you want to spin it.

Good game Tech. Great win folks.

NEXT GAME


I never said the refs took anything away from the Horns. Tech came out like a team possessed in the 1st half and took it to Texas. Horns put up a fight in the 2nd half and was 1 dropped int from putting the game away. They didn't and Crabtree made a big play like he does on many occasions and helped Tech hold on to the win. I tip my hat to them with no excuses at all.
 

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Doomsday101;2399719 said:
I never said the refs took anything away from the Horns. Tech came out like a team possessed in the 1st half and took it to Texas. Horns put up a fight in the 2nd half and was 1 dropped int from putting the game away. They didn't and Crabtree made a big play like he does on many occasions and helped Tech hold on to the win. I tip my hat to them with no excuses at all.


It is not you Dooms. It's some of the other UT fans here. Texas Tech deserved that win. They came to play. Texas didn't wake up until the 2nd half. It went down to the wire. Tech made the play that won the ball game.

I read some of these posts and they read like Tech didn't deserve to win. Go back and read some of Biggs posts.

To many yeah...buts...What if this happenend and this didn't happen. Yeah but this happened and it could have been like this. :rolleyes:


Texas Tech didn't job Texas. Texas Tech came to play.
 

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Dallas;2399763 said:
It is not you Dooms. It's some of the other UT fans here. Texas Tech deserved that win. They came to play. Texas didn't wake up until the 2nd half. It went down to the wire. Tech made the play that won the ball game.

I read some of these posts and they read like Tech didn't deserve to win. Go back and read some of Biggs posts.

To many yeah...buts...What if this happenend and this didn't happen. Yeah but this happened and it could have been like this. :rolleyes:


Texas Tech didn't job Texas. Texas Tech came to play.

I tell you that stadium was rocking and I knew it was going to be a tough game after the 1st Texas snap when Chris Ogbonnaya was nailed for a safety. I also knew Texas would make a comeback against Tech but just did not finish it up with a critical drop of an easy int off the tipped pass. I give the credit to the Red Raiders they came to play.
 

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Dallas;2399698 said:
Wow- This thread took off again. I thought Poke and I killed it.

Hank and Doom need a room. :D


No offense but come on Horn fans. What is the deal w/ the yeah buts? That is comical that you are basically saying the refs took the game from you.


Look at all the holds (Like not a single guy on UT ever held and not get called)

Look at all the hands to the face (Like not a single guy at UT ever held and not get called)

I am sure more even went on that wasn't called.

It happens w/ every game. Calls are made and calls are missed.


I don't want to be over there w/ some of you folks giving excuses as to WHY Oklahoma lost to Texas. They LOST. I won't blame it on anyone or anything. A W is a W...regardless however you want to spin it.

Good game Tech. Great win folks.

NEXT GAME

Next time I'll just post gay crap before the game and then hide for two weeks after the loss, that's much better than complaining about the refs.

I didn't say the refs took the game from us, we dropped the game with 8 seconds left.
 

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jimmy40;2400412 said:
Next time I'll just post gay crap before the game and then hide for two weeks after the loss, that's much better than complaining about the refs.

I didn't say the refs took the game from us, we dropped the game with 8 seconds left.

What does that have to do w/ anything we are talking about?

You can't debate the specifics so you need to try and get one in on the poster? Is that how it works?

YOU were the one boo-hooing about the ref no calls. I think you even posted some images from the game w/ holds and hands to the face? Im not making this up.

I am just pointing out what I think are excuse posts by some in the UT community which does include you, good sir.

I am also not saying you said the refs took the game from Texas. You just kinda post like that is what happened. Reading those posts its like Tech didn't deserve the win. That is insane.

Thing is - you don't want to give Tech its do. You just want to snipe someone who calls you out on the crying.

Thats fine. The obvious hurts sometimes.
 
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