Texas vs Alabama discussion

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Its a long time off so lets discuss the game here.


I think the key matchup in this game will be the Bama Dline vs the Texas Oline.

Bama's Dline is so much better than the Texas Oline and it may be where the game is decided

As good as Nebraskas defense is they have nothing on Alabamas.

Texas should run the ball early but that really doesn't fit Greg Davis's style but I think Balance will be the key for the Texas Offense.

Texas has a good defense as well but im a little worried about how their undersized front 7 will stop the physical run game of the Crimson Tide.

With that said Colt McCoy is magical and there is no team in the Nation better than Texas when it comes to playing the underdog role.
 

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mmy Johnson when he said if the game was next week Bama would be a big favor but with a month to prepare for the game I think Texas and it speed is going to give Bama a run for their money
 

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i think it will be a close game and its all dependent on the defenses. if they somehow get into a shootout i think texas will win, but if its low scoring alabama will most likely win, specially with that guy that blocks FGs like crazy, i forget his name
 

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It's a long way off, besides the cowboys always choking the other thing i hate about December is that there's no college football :mad:
 

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Well if it comes down to blocked kicks, Texas is unparallelled in that regard. Alabama back 7 is probably better than Nebraska but not sure their front four is better, or even as good as Nebraska. I do think that is the key matchup though. If the Texas o-line gets abused as badly as Saturday, it's gonna be a rough night.
 

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Shady12;3128899 said:
Well if it comes down to blocked kicks, Texas is unparallelled in that regard. Alabama back 7 is probably better than Nebraska but not sure their front four is better, or even as good as Nebraska. I do think that is the key matchup though. If the Texas o-line gets abused as badly as Saturday, it's gonna be a rough night.

Alabams front 7 is way better than Nebraskas.

I dont know who # 57 is for bama other than he is a sophomore but i'd be shocked if he isn't a 1st round pick.

Not to mention Terrence Cody is going to control the LOS and there is nothing Texas can do about that.
 

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I think the Nebraska front FOUR is as good. And Cody will control it, plug it up, control the running game, but he's not Suh, he won't be in the backfield as much. He might I guess, just because the Texas o-line is so bad.
 

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Shady12;3128955 said:
I think the Nebraska front FOUR is as good. And Cody will control it, plug it up, control the running game, but he's not Suh, he won't be in the backfield as much. He might I guess, just because the Texas o-line is so bad.

Good thing Texas uses the short passes in the spread offense as an extention of the run. In doing that they could open up some draws if they can get Bama spread out. I think the passing game of Texas is better than most teams Bama has faced this year. I would also add Texas has a pretty darn good defense of their own with a big play secondary and has been a good run stopping team as well. I look forward to this matchup
 

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Shady12;3128955 said:
I think the Nebraska front FOUR is as good. And Cody will control it, plug it up, control the running game, but he's not Suh, he won't be in the backfield as much. He might I guess, just because the Texas o-line is so bad.

Cody isn't going to make all the plays in the backfield like Suh will but Cody can play the run as good or better than Suh.
 

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Shady12;3128955 said:
I think the Nebraska front FOUR is as good. And Cody will control it, plug it up, control the running game, but he's not Suh, he won't be in the backfield as much. He might I guess, just because the Texas o-line is so bad.

i think its unfair to call the texas oline bad, its actually pretty good. the problem was that Suh completely dominated that game, he single handedly took up and beat 2 blockers, giving the rest of the guys one on ones. His performance was amazing, and as someone who loves defense in general i really appreciated it.

i saw a highlight that showed Chris Hall, the UT center on some battles with Suh, Mark Schlereth(sp?) showed how Suh attacked Hall, but Hall countered perfectly, his technique was sound and according to Mark, Suh was just so overpowering it was almost impossible for anyone in the college level to contain him.

so even though its not as good as it has been in years past, the o line is at least good, if not very good.
 

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also, someone mentioned earlier the big play ability of the texas D and i think thats a big key. If someone like earl thomas can get a TD off an INT or at least get texas easy points off a turnover it will go a long way towards pulling off the upset. i dont know much about the alabama D but from what ive seen i havent really seen them score TDs off INTs, fumbles or blocked kicks
 

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MC KAos;3129141 said:
also, someone mentioned earlier the big play ability of the texas D and i think thats a big key. If someone like earl thomas can get a TD off an INT or at least get texas easy points off a turnover it will go a long way towards pulling off the upset. i dont know much about the alabama D but from what ive seen i havent really seen them score TDs off INTs, fumbles or blocked kicks

Bamas got a good secondary. They lost their star safety earlier in the year but it is still a good group of players.

I like the Texas secondary better than Bamas secondary.

But what im worried about is the small finesse Texas Defense against the Big physical Alabama Offense.

The Texas D is meant to stop the high powered big 12 Offenses. I dont know how they will deal with the style of play that Alabama brings.

This is a no brainer but the biggest key for Texas is to stop the run 1st.
 

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Texas o-line is definitely below average. I also don't like the running scheme. I'd like to see them go to some pistol next season if they stay in primarily the shotgun. You can at least put the back a step or two behind the qb(still next to him) as most spread teams do.

One thing worth mentioning is Shipley wasn't close to 100%, turf toe. I read from an insider that he was pretty limited in this game and limited what the offense could do. He'll have over a month to get back to 100%.

Also don't think the D is undersized, it's just not huge compared to Alabama's front 7. It's about average size, the talent is above average though obviously. But yeah we'll see how they do against a power running game.
 

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CATCH17;3128695 said:
Texas should run the ball early but that really doesn't fit Greg Davis's style but I think Balance will be the key for the Texas Offense.

I don't know if that is true or not. Ricky Williams won a Heisman because Greg Davis ran the ball. Cedric Benson is the Big 12's all time leader rusher(5540 yards) because Greg Davis ran the ball. Their current crop of offensive linemen are just not that good. They are soft and not overly athletic. That is not a good combination. Plus they can't keep tight ends healthy on their team. They would probably utilize more run friendly packages had they not lost two tight ends to injury to start the season.
 

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SEC >>>>> Big 12, period, end of discussion.

Texas has no running game and McCoy is no threat to throw the ball downfield.

Texas D will probably keep it close, but Alabama is eons better than Nebraska offensively too. I cant think of one player on Nebraska's offense that would start for Alabama's

I expect Bama to win by 10-14...probably something like 27-10 or 27-13
 

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Colt McCoy has to run the ball for Texas offense to work against Alabama.
 

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A great deal is made of how good Bama's defense is and how poor Texas OL is. I don't know that I buy into that much. I agree that the Texas running game is not as good as I would like it to be but I don't know that I completely understand it. I definately agree that the Texas OL is not as good as in years past. I mean, they have lost some pretty good guys along the OL in the last two years. The real problem here, IMO, is perception. It's true that Bama is good but I don't believe for a second that they are better then Nebraska is. The two games that Colt and the Texas Offense really struggled in were the Nebraska game and the OU game. The two things that both of those defenses have in commen are their ability to bring pressure. The Nebraska D is 3rd in the Nation in Defensive Sacks. OU is 5th. Bama is 35th.

Bama is a good defense but they don't seem to be able to bring it as well as either Nebraska or OU. I am not sold on those who say that Bama's defense front 7 is better then Nebraska's. They may have more talent defensively but they don't have that dominating pass rusher, so far as I can tell. I think Dareus leads the team 6.5. You look at Nebraska and OU and you have Suh (12), Crick (9.5) and Turner (5.5). With OU, you have Beal (11). McCoy(5) and like 5 other guys with 3 or 4 sacks.

I don't know if Bama just doesn't play that kind of defensive scheme but they can just turn it on and do it or not but I know that if you can't pressure Colt, he's going to put up numbers.
 

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dbair1967;3129901 said:
SEC >>>>> Big 12, period, end of discussion.

Texas has no running game and McCoy is no threat to throw the ball downfield.

Texas D will probably keep it close, but Alabama is eons better than Nebraska offensively too. I cant think of one player on Nebraska's offense that would start for Alabama's

I expect Bama to win by 10-14...probably something like 27-10 or 27-13

Based on what?
 

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I was stationed in both states for training but I'd have to say I enjoyed Texas better because it was warmer there.

Huh? Oh you meant the football game.

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