Thank You, Bill Parcells

HoleInTheRoof;3277782 said:
That certainly was impressive. But we certainly benefited from an easy schedule. And we did collapse down the stretch. I was real impressed with the win vs Carolina that year.




While taking four losing franchises to the playoffs is impressive, the reason why no one else has ever done it could largely be attributed to the fact that no other coach routinely "quit" after such short tenures.

Name me another coach who would stick with a team for 3-4 years before "retiring", only to come out of retirement? I can't think of any off the top of my head.



And his Induction speech should consist of four words: "Thank you Bill Belichick!"



He's overrated. It's my opinion. I don't think a difference in opinion qualifies as someone being stupid. We'll agree to disagree.

Good post. I agree with it. I don't think he was a very good coach. But I do think he turned our team around and he also helped us attain some quality personnel.
 
Hostile;3277829 said:
I knew Quincy was gone in March of 2004, 5 months before he was axed. So I have never doubted Romo was going to be here. Not necessarily as our future starter, because I admittedly thought that was Henson.

How could we forget? :p:
 
CowboysFaninDC;3278003 said:
also, coaches bring with them other coaches, to teach their way of doing things. so what payton knew romo....it was under parcells that romo got here and it was under his watch that romo developed. there was also a lot of rumor about jerry wanting bledsoe to start over romo and parcells wanted romo.

From an anthropology standpoint, if you watched the way Bill reacted towards Romo you could tell he liked Romo. Sometimes he adored him, other times he pulled the reigns back on in--and a bit too much at that I might add.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3278339 said:
Yes, that is the original point. Bill Parcells is a .500 coach when Little Bill isn't on his staff.




With Little Bill on his staff.



With Little Bill on his staff.




Parcells has never won a division title, or playoff game, without Bill Bellichick on his staff.


Meanwhile, Bill Bellichicks defensive game plan used to beat the Bills in the Super Bowl is in the Hall of Fame. Bill Bellichick has won many division titles, many playoff games, won three out of four Super Bowls, went 16-0 in the regular season.... without Bill Parcells.

And when he lost Tom Brady in 2007, he still coached his team to an 11-5 record.

:eagles: <---insert head.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3278339 said:
Parcells has never won a division title, or playoff game, without Bill Bellichick on his staff.

Meanwhile, Bill Bellichicks defensive game plan used to beat the Bills in the Super Bowl is in the Hall of Fame. Bill Bellichick has won many division titles, many playoff games, won three out of four Super Bowls, went 16-0 in the regular season.... without Bill Parcells.

And when he lost Tom Brady in 2007, he still coached his team to an 11-5 record.

You are conveniently excluding Belichick's 1991-95 stint with the Browns where he went 36-44 in the regular season.

Like someone else already said in this thread, no one man wins championships by themselves, be it the big or the little Bill.
Takes the whole organization.
 
lolli;3278753 said:
You are conveniently excluding Belichick's 1991-95 stint with the Browns where he went 36-44 in the regular season.

If you put a chef in a trucker bathroom and gave him flour and eggs... don't expect him to come out with blueberry muffins.

Name a coach who has had any measure success in Cleveland?

Besides, this Belichick learned from that experience and made the neccessary adjustments needed to have success.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Super...+Bill+Belichick+the+preeminent...-a0130348163
COACH: Your first NFL head coaching job was with the Cleveland Browns.
During your five seasons, you guided the team to the playoffs in 1994 with an impressive 11-4 record. That Browns team was defined by its defense, allowing a league-low 204 points (12.8 ppg) and a mere 301.6 yards per game, which was second in the AFC. Looking back in retrospect, what did you learn about yourself during your tenure in Cleveland that helped prepare you as head coach of the Patriots?

BELICHICK: Basically, it's two things. One, I have tried to allocate my time more efficiently by delegating more to other people in the organization. Second, I have paid more attention to the big picture, non-football aspects of the team. Not necessarily from and X's and O's standpoint, but that still impact our players and in the end affect winning and losing.

lolli;3278753 said:
Like someone else already said in this thread, no one man wins championships by themselves, be it the big or the little Bill.
Takes the whole organization.

I agree that it takes an entire organization, with a little luck, to win championships. But the fact still stands that Bill Parcells is a career .500 coach and has never won anything without Bill Belichick on his staff, whereas Bill Belichick has had incredible success without Bill Parcells.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3278811 said:
If you put a chef in a trucker bathroom and gave him flour and eggs... don't expect him to come out with blueberry muffins.

Wow, .. that's deep, .. I'm speechless. :clap2:



:huh:
 
HoleInTheRoof;3277076 said:
+1.


Personally, I'm glas Parcells is gone. He is overrated as a coach, IMO. His record without Belichick on his staff speaks for itself. I also think his eye for talent is overrated.

Having said that, I think Parcells greatest quality is that he changes cultures. He demands respect from players. And he has this aura about him where players would run through walls for him.

I'm happy that he came when he did. The team desperately needed it. But I also took solace in that Seattle game as I knew it meant the end of the Parcells era.
+ 1 on every point.
 

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