Thanking Rams, Eagles

[gimmesix]

Honestly, the only way this could work out better for us is if whichever QB the Eagles take is a colossal bust.

The trades force the two QBs to the top of the draft (whether they are truly considered the top two players in the draft or not), which gives Dallas its pick of the other player minus whomever the Chargers take.

I know for the QB-at-all-costs crowd that's little consolation, but I'm ecstatic about the trades, especially with what the Eagles had to pay to ensure that they get one of the QBs.

Now, we can get Bosa, Ramsey or Elliott and still have plenty of picks left to address other positions, even QB.

 

[reddyuta]

I think Goff would be a very good NFL QB if given some time,if he gets beaten due to the porous LA oline then all bets are off.

 

[Rogerthat12]

If the Eagles draft Wentz at least Risen will now be an Eagles fan, any consolation people?

He is probably on EaglesNest forum right now uploading his avatar..LoL.

 

[gimmesix]

I think Goff would be a very good NFL QB if given some time,if he gets beaten due to the porous LA oline then all bets are off.

Not sure his career will go better than Bradford's. Of course, we could say that about virtually any draft pick.

The things that bugged me about these QBs is there never was an Andrew Luck type in the lot. Wentz kind of got elevated to those type comparisons late in the process, but I just wonder if that's because of the dearth of true sure-bet types or if he truly deserves it.

I don't take teams trading up for them as signs of deserving it. Teams once took David Carr and Joey Harrington within the first three picks in a draft and have missed on nearly 50 percent of QBs taken in the top five

 

[gimmesix]

If the Eagles draft Wentz at least Risen will now be an Eagles fan, any consolation people?

He is probably on EaglesNest forum right now uploading his avatar..LoL.

I think this has saved us some whining on draft day. Probably not much, but at least we won't have to constantly hear how Dallas should have taken a QB.

Of course, some fans are calling for Dallas to now take Lynch at No. 4.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I think this has saved us some whining on draft day. Probably not much, but at least we won't have to constantly hear how Dallas should have taken a QB.

Of course, some fans are calling for Dallas to now take Lynch at No. 4.

Yuck!

 

[DFWJC]

I think Goff would be a very good NFL QB if given some time,if he gets beaten due to the porous LA oline then all bets are off.

The Rams did it better than some though.
Stud RB
Stud defense
Equals
Way easier for any QB

They did start addressing the line..pretty good LT

 

[ConceptCoop]

The Rams did it better than some though.
Stud RB
Stud defense
Equals
Way easier for any QB

They did start addressing the line..pretty good LT

If you want to make it easy on your QB, give him time and weapons. They have two weapons and an awful offensive line.

 

[egn22]

I'm with OP, I didn't wanna go QB and I like our options.
I'm hoping LA picks Goff because the more I've read about Wentz, the less I'm convinced he's the real deal. So if Wentz is gonna bust, I want it to be in Philly. That would be fantastic.

The ideal situation now in my opinion would be a trade back to 6 or 7 for Elliott plus picks.

 

[gimmesix]

I'm with OP, I didn't wanna go QB and I like our options.
I'm hoping LA picks Goff because the more I've read about Wentz, the less I'm convinced he's the real deal. So if Wentz is gonna bust, I want it to be in Philly. That would be fantastic.

The ideal situation now in my opinion would be a trade back to 6 or 7 for Elliott plus picks.

I agree that the bust factor is higher with Wentz, as well as his ceiling. I think Goff at worst will be an average NFL starter.

 

[gimmesix]

I'm with OP, I didn't wanna go QB and I like our options.
I'm hoping LA picks Goff because the more I've read about Wentz, the less I'm convinced he's the real deal. So if Wentz is gonna bust, I want it to be in Philly. That would be fantastic.

The ideal situation now in my opinion would be a trade back to 6 or 7 for Elliott plus picks.

If Ramsey, Bosa and Elliott are all there at 4, then I'd be OK with that. I prefer that we end up with one of those three, though Tunsil wouldn't be a bad consolation prize, just a less-needed one.

 

[KB1122]

I don't take teams trading up for them as signs of deserving it. Teams once took David Carr and Joey Harrington within the first three picks in a draft and have missed on nearly 50 percent of QBs taken in the top five

What's the percentage on third round picks?

 

[KB1122]

I think this has saved us some whining on draft day. Probably not much, but at least we won't have to constantly hear how Dallas should have taken a QB.

Oh no. Not at all. IF the Cowboys don't get the impact player and win the Super Bowl this year, you're going to hear it. If Tony Romo gets injured again, you're going to hear it. If we're sitting here on the QB carousel in a few years, you're going to hear it. If Philly and Wentz are beating us for the next 15 years, you're going to hear it.

 

[Fredd]

draft is shaping up nicely for Dallas right now

 

[Sydla]

Honestly, the only way this could work out better for us is if whichever QB the Eagles take is a colossal bust.

The trades force the two QBs to the top of the draft (whether they are truly considered the top two players in the draft or not), which gives Dallas its pick of the other player minus whomever the Chargers take.

I know for the QB-at-all-costs crowd that's little consolation, but I'm ecstatic about the trades, especially with what the Eagles had to pay to ensure that they get one of the QBs.

Now, we can get Bosa, Ramsey or Elliott and still have plenty of picks left to address other positions, even QB.

You aren't addressing QB with a later round pick. It's basically pure luck. Anyone thinking the wiser move to get a franchise QB is one in the later rounds is fooling themselves.

You can say you didn't want Wentz or Goff. That's fine. But acting like the wiser move to fix the QB situation is a third or fourth round guy is a pipe dream.

 

[Risen Star]

Says a Melvin who will be crying like a baby when the crippled QB can't play anymore. Whoever they draft at 4? They don't matter without the QB. Completely and totally irrelevant.

Here's the deal, Bathe in this truth while fantasy land is all around you. We have a triple whammy at play here and watch and see if I'm not right as rain.

1) We had a real opportunity to turn the abortion of the 2015 season it's an actual positive with the QB of the future. We've now lost that opportunity. Either the idiots who compose our front office don't believe there's a franchise QB in this draft or they just think it's too soon. Romo can play until it hurts to pee. Either way, I would trust your Mom's opinion on this over those two wastes of space. There is a very good chance we will all look back on this decision with serious regret.

2) Not taking the QB now leaves the Cowboys in familiar territory. Their safe space. Their binky. They will more than likely waste the 4th overall pick on a player who will provide zero impact on this team, CB Jalen Ramsey. Literally the least pay out you can drum up from 4-12 and the 4th pick in the draft. It will be a decision that's celebrated around the Romper Room, but will prove to be just as horrific as the Newman, Carr and Claiborne decisions. Irrelevant players. They win you nothing. They should never command a top of the draft selection or a mega FA deal.

3) Not taking the QB at 4 will also probably lead to another disastrous decision. Burning a pick quite possibly as high as 34, and a lot of time, on a complete bum athlete type QB that Wade Wilson can coach up in the decade and a half or whatever it is our lunatic of an owner has Romo pegged for. Hey, we're addressing QB. See? It's just kind of half ***ed. Did you meet Jalen yet?

Same old, same old. Tick tock. How old is he today? How old tomorrow? We're making progress.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Haha is funny some of you guys are mad at the front office cause they didn't pick a QB in a draft that hasn't played out yet.

They called about trading up but if they didn't feel those steep prices were worth either QB than I can't be mad at the team that others traded ahead to get the QBs. Come on guys yall complain about nothing, is not like a franchise QB made it to 4 and we passed on them. .........this will blow your mind. ......the draft hasn't started yet haha

 

[waving monkey]

The idea of Wentz in our division is depressing enough.
It will take Wentz a couple of years to mature to the NFL speed
so lets go with Elliott and try for that trophy now.

P.S. I am glad we didn't trade up

 

[jnday]

I think this has saved us some whining on draft day. Probably not much, but at least we won't have to constantly hear how Dallas should have taken a QB.

Of course, some fans are calling for Dallas to now take Lynch at No. 4.

No, you will hear that Dallas should have drafted a QB after Romo gets hurt this year. About five years from now and several QBs later, you will be saying they should have drafted a decent QB. The writing is on the wall. They will draft Dak and waste a couple years trying to make him into a decent QB after Tony retires. After 10-15 years of trying to get lucky at QB, they may hit luck. I don't want even one more season like this last season. I would rather see them trade around and land Lynch than draft a mid-round prospect that will be lucky to be a backup. They can wait until next year and spend tons of picks to get back in the position they was in this year. They will win just enough games to keep the top QB prospects out of reach until the team is forced into overpaying.

 

[gimmesix]

What's the percentage on third round picks?

Not high, but the success rate of QBs taken in the 30s is higher than the success rate of QBs taken in the top five (with a much smaller sample size).