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darthseinfeld

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Thing is none of the players we pick at 4 are better talents then the QBs. Those guys outside of Tunsil are borderline top 10 talents we are going to reach for because the talent at the top of the draft.
 

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Says a Melvin who will be crying like a baby when the crippled QB can't play anymore. Whoever they draft at 4? They don't matter without the QB. Completely and totally irrelevant.

Here's the deal, Bathe in this truth while fantasy land is all around you. We have a triple whammy at play here and watch and see if I'm not right as rain.

1) We had a real opportunity to turn the abortion of the 2015 season it's an actual positive with the QB of the future. We've now lost that opportunity. Either the idiots who compose our front office don't believe there's a franchise QB in this draft or they just think it's too soon. Romo can play until it hurts to pee. Either way, I would trust your Mom's opinion on this over those two wastes of space. There is a very good chance we will all look back on this decision with serious regret.

2) Not taking the QB now leaves the Cowboys in familiar territory. Their safe space. Their binky. They will more than likely waste the 4th overall pick on a player who will provide zero impact on this team, CB Jalen Ramsey. Literally the least pay out you can drum up from 4-12 and the 4th pick in the draft. It will be a decision that's celebrated around the Romper Room, but will prove to be just as horrific as the Newman, Carr and Claiborne decisions. Irrelevant players. They win you nothing. They should never command a top of the draft selection or a mega FA deal.

3) Not taking the QB at 4 will also probably lead to another disastrous decision. Burning a pick quite possibly as high as 34, and a lot of time, on a complete bum athlete type QB that Wade Wilson can coach up in the decade and a half or whatever it is our lunatic of an owner has Romo pegged for. Hey, we're addressing QB. See? It's just kind of half ***ed. Did you meet Jalen yet?

Same old, same old. Tick tock. How old is he today? How old tomorrow? We're making progress.



Yep...

Today was a bad day for this franchise..

Wentz better be a bust or today was one of the worst days in this franchises history.
 

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Wentz better be a bust or today was one of the worst days in this franchises history.

Based on today, if Wentz is a bust the Eagles will trade us a 1st and 2nd round pick for Kellen Moore to take his place.
 

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Yep...

Today was a bad day for this franchise..

Wentz better be a bust or today was one of the worst days in this franchises history.

And the thing is, you know that's what's going to happen .... you can feel the sense of impending doom ...... because you know Fate will find it too tempting to give the Joneses a nice swift kick in the ...
 

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Yep...

Today was a bad day for this franchise..

Wentz better be a bust or today was one of the worst days in this franchises history.

Talk about over dramatic.....If Wentz turns out to be the next Brady/P.Manning then yes, we will never hear about Randy Moss again because this will take its place.....but more likely than boom or bust is he'll just turn out to be an average QB/bus driver type....or what if even he's Andy Dalton or Matt Ryan and can never win in the playoffs? if he's an ok or even a good QB but ultimately the sheagles still never get their SB in the next 10-15 years, nobody will care that we "passed" on him via not outbidding the Rams or Sheagles......
 

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3) Not taking the QB at 4 will also probably lead to another disastrous decision. Burning a pick quite possibly as high as 34, and a lot of time, on a complete bum athlete type QB that Wade Wilson can coach up in the decade and a half or whatever it is our lunatic of an owner has Romo pegged for. Hey, we're addressing QB. See? It's just kind of half ***ed. Did you meet Jalen yet?

Same old, same old. Tick tock. How old is he today? How old tomorrow? We're making progress.

You mean the Wade Wilson who coached up Romo over the last 9 years? I personally have liked the progression i've seen in Romo over the last decade. You haven't?
 

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No, you will hear that Dallas should have drafted a QB after Romo gets hurt this year. About five years from now and several QBs later, you will be saying they should have drafted a decent QB. The writing is on the wall. They will draft Dak and waste a couple years trying to make him into a decent QB after Tony retires. After 10-15 years of trying to get lucky at QB, they may hit luck. I don't want even one more season like this last season. I would rather see them trade around and land Lynch than draft a mid-round prospect that will be lucky to be a backup. They can wait until next year and spend tons of picks to get back in the position they was in this year. They will win just enough games to keep the top QB prospects out of reach until the team is forced into overpaying.

The fact that the QBs will go 1-2 doesn't absolve Dallas of any criticism. They had the option of moving up too. They were even in better position to do it.

It's alarming to see how our fans think. Most of these people deserve this team.
 

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Not sure his career will go better than Bradford's. Of course, we could say that about virtually any draft pick.

The things that bugged me about these QBs is there never was an Andrew Luck type in the lot. Wentz kind of got elevated to those type comparisons late in the process, but I just wonder if that's because of the dearth of true sure-bet types or if he truly deserves it.

I don't take teams trading up for them as signs of deserving it. Teams once took David Carr and Joey Harrington within the first three picks in a draft and have missed on nearly 50 percent of QBs taken in the top five

And missed much worse on quarterbacks drafted later. But yeah, we'll 'just get one later'...

:rolleyes:
 

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I think this has saved us some whining on draft day. Probably not much, but at least we won't have to constantly hear how Dallas should have taken a QB.

Of course, some fans are calling for Dallas to now take Lynch at No. 4.

And the less-informed think that they can 'just get one' at any point.
 

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You aren't addressing QB with a later round pick. It's basically pure luck. Anyone thinking the wiser move to get a franchise QB is one in the later rounds is fooling themselves.

They're ignorant of the facts around the situation. They can't see 'big picture' to save their lives. It's the instant gratification society. Everything has to be now! now! now!

You can say you didn't want Wentz or Goff. That's fine. But acting like the wiser move to fix the QB situation is a third or fourth round guy is a pipe dream.

And truly shows that whoever's typing it hasn't done their homework on the subject they're trying to talk about.
 

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Thing is none of the players we pick at 4 are better talents then the QBs. Those guys outside of Tunsil are borderline top 10 talents we are going to reach for because the talent at the top of the draft.

It's funny that some people cry for 'playmakers' and then want to draft one of these defensive guys who don't make plays!

 

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Iggles just bailed on Bradford, possibly fleeced themselves out of two Drafts and set back ala' RG3 Skins - to move up 6 spots. Eagles Nation is blithering, lol - today was a good day.

And if they got a franchise quarterback, it's an act of sheer genius. They will be set at the position for 10 years while we're sifting through the trash and failed baseball players - again!
 

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Those who are celebrating these trades just dont get it. We have no semblance of a QB of the future on this roster right now and probably will reach for a bum like Prescott in the 3rd or 4th and think we found our next Russell Wilson. We'll draft in the mid-late first round each year until Romo retires unexpectedly like Troy did. At that point, we'll either roll with that bum Prescott for a few years, or be forced to give up more then Philly and the Rams just did to move up for our QB. Then, the QB we pick, wont have the luxury of sitting for a yr or two to help refine his skills/mechanics. And I dont want to hear "we didnt think either of these QBs were franchise qbs" because we called and inquired about moving up and Philly knew we would take Wentz.

Most of you will celebrate when we take Ramsey who wont do a thing to help this defense. Also, the thinking that Philly has no draft picks to put pieces around the qb doesnt make sense to me either. There is still free-agency and they can still trade for draft picks.
 

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And if they got a franchise quarterback, it's an act of sheer genius. They will be set at the position for 10 years while we're sifting through the trash and failed baseball players - again!

You realize there will be other drafts, right? If Philly made just a genius move by trading their future picks to move up, what is stopping us from doing that next year, or the year after that, or the year after that...
 

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Most of you will celebrate when we take Ramsey who wont do a thing to help this defense. Also, the thinking that Philly has no draft picks to put pieces around the qb doesnt make sense to me either. There is still free-agency and they can still trade for draft picks.

Please tell me how adding a top DB at $6 mil per will not help our defense, while keeping in mind MO is a free agent next year and Carr is over-paid. Look how much Josh Norman is commanding! Look how much NY paid Jenkins.
 

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Please tell me how adding a top DB at $6 mil per will not help our defense, while keeping in mind MO is a free agent next year and Carr is over-paid. Look how much Josh Norman is commanding! Look how much NY paid Jenkins.

DBs wont help this defense without a pass rush. We've seen this for how long now, and fans of this team just dont get it.
 

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I think Goff would be a very good NFL QB if given some time,if he gets beaten due to the porous LA oline then all bets are off.

I just hope whichever QB turns out to be the best of the two that LA gets him. If one is a massive bust, definitely the Eagles deserve that one. :D
 
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