The 2008 Commanders Really Suck Thread
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Heres the thing with the Commanders and their fans........Much of their fanbase is REALLY hung up on Campbell, so much so that it reminds me of the Q Carter situation in Dallas. Those fans LIE to themselves on a daily basis to prop up their Campbell love...LOL Ive seen many many posts over at extremeskins like this........." Finally Campbell will be allowed to shine now that he has an offensive genius calling the shots in Zorn" Or........" With Gibbs and Saunders ran out of town now our young QB can finally take the next step"! Ummmm.....WHAAAATTTT! Gee, dont let a little thing like FACTS get in the way. FACT is Gibbs MILKED more wins out of that deadbeat bunch then their talent ever deserved . Gibbs is a three time superbowl winning headcoach, Saunders is recognized as one of the leagues brightest offensive minds, his work with the chiefs, Rams, and Chargers speaks for itself. Each team put out explosive offenses. Now Zorn on the otherhand has done.....ZILCH. In fact, he wasnt even wanted in Seattle under Holmgren. He's never even been an offensive co. YET these delusional Campbell HOMERS honestly believe that Gibbs and Saunders werent any good and Zorn is here to save the day. I mean, it just CANT be anything Campbell did, it just has to be that Gibbs and Saunders werent any good, they just SUDDENLY forgot how to coach!....LMAO Dont let a little thing like actual facts or track record get in the way .The whole thing is laughable to be honest. This season Skins fans and specifically Campbell homers will find out just how good Gibbs/ Saunders were. They were the best thing for Campbell but were thrown under the bus by a bunch of Campbell lovers. Hey......ANYTHING for an excuse ya know....:laugh2: Should be highly entertaining to sit back and watch this season.
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sonnyboy;2221624 said:
Dude... The Skins aren't that bad... There's a few divisions in the NFL that the Skins would be favored to win... They definitely wont be near the top 5 picks of the draft... I'm pretty sure they'll be between 7-9 and 9-7, most likely an 8-8 team...
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Wonder if any deadskin fans have ever pondered WHY exactly it is the team keeps switching offensive systems? I mean, you dont really change whats working well do you?...LMAO! The systems change is used as a constant excuse for the poor QBing in washington without ever examing the possibility that they keep changing the scheme to TRY to hit on one their QB can be effective in. So far, none have worked.........
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dmq;2221790 said:
Sorry but I strongly disagree and I'm far from a novice. It's not the results of the preseason game that's important, it's the way the STARTERS played in those games. The Foreskins STARTERS were absolutely terrible in their dress rehersal game. So terrible that JZ made them play a full qtr in their final preseason game, which is virtually unheard of. They even stunk that game up too where they were actually focusing and trying to prove that the previous game was a fluke. Again, it's not the results, it's the performance of the STARTERS that counts the most. Their STARTERS got progessively worse as the preseason went on. That's extremely important..
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Mansta54;2222313 said:
Come on Man. That is just silly. Do you really believe this or is it because you live in Commanders land you are just sick of hearing about them?
No way they win as few as 3 or 4 games. They are much too talented for that, they could play bad and win 6 games with the talent they have.
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sonnyboy;2221624 said:
I take serious issue with the title of this thread.
Shouldnt it be dated as "20xx"
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........Im witcha Mansta! Their gonna be putrid. I got my money on 5-11. This year their fans find out just how important Joe Gibbs was to that team. His conservative play not to lose approach kept them competitive by limiting turnovers and controlling the clock. This year their on their own, with a clueless coach. Gonna get exposed badly...Mansta54;2222331 said:
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theebs;2222316 said:
Thanks for the posts MANSTA54
Yes we do think they are a 3-4 win team. Would you like to list all this "talent"?
Some actual play in pre-season does matter.
This team and Campbell in particular have been horrible.
They would not be favored in any division. The fact they are in the NFC East with 3 superior teams simply increases the odds of a 4 win finish.
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sonnyboy;2222363 said:Thanks for the posts MANSTA54
Yes we do think they are a 3-4 win team. Would you like to list all this "talent"?
Some actual play in pre-season does matter.
This team and Campbell in particular have been horrible.
They would not be favored in any division. The fact they are in the NFC East with 3 superior teams simply increases the odds of a 4 win finish.
I think they have alot of talent. I am not going to bother listing it or getting into it though, because I know you will just shoot it all down and put emoticons up!
So I will just leave it as I have a different opinion.
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Avenging Hayseed;2222358 said:
Yep, they're gonna miss GW running their D also. They have ZERO pass rush, JT is hurt and doesn't scare anybody anyway, their secondary is horrible, they have no safety, Landry been nursing a hammy all preseason long, SS is old, Rogers is coming off major knee surgery and sucked even before the injury, Smuut is avg at best. Their LB's MacIntosh and Washington are hurt and Fletcher is damn near 65yrs old but still very good though.
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theebs;2222367 said:
Thats cool but I wouldn't call it shooting it down if I list justifiable points to your post. I just don't think they're very good. And what, do my emoticons offend you? They have them on the board for a reason. And yes, it's cool to have different opinions...
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Mansta54;2222382 said:
I wasnt responding to you. The emoticon joke was meant for sonny.
like I said, I have a different opinion and I am not going to bother breaking down the roster. There really is no point.
I do think they are going to miss GW alot though.
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I think Tops they are a 7-9 team, but more like 6-10.
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theebs;2222367 said:
I'll help you out!!! Their QB isn't even avg, their oline is old slow and injured, their WR's are small and not very productive, the rookie WR's that they spent 2nd RD picks on came to camp out of shape and MK may be put on IR, they do have a good HB in Cooley. They have a HC who's in way over his head. Remember, JZ was a icon in Seattle from his playing days and then he was the QB coach for many yrs. Holmgren and the Seattle frtofc knew JZ very well but chose Mora Jr. over him when Holmgren retires after this season. We all know that Mora Jr. is a complete joke. That speaks volumes to me. JZ stumbled into the HC position. I listed their defensive issues a few posts ahead of this one.