The 2023 draft is killing this organization

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Bobhaze said:
This organization has sold itself for years as being built as a “draft and develop“ team. Not only is this “draft and develop” model outdated and long ago shown to be not enough. Without some decent FAs thrown in as well, it places enormous pressure on each year’s draft to produce starters or at the very least, quality depth.

The 2023 draft is starting to look like a total disaster for an organization completely dependent on the draft to stay competitive, much less be a team capable of winning playoff games. When your first AND second round picks barely even make the box score, your draft is already a disaster.

Yesterday in Atlanta, 2023 1st round pick Mazi Smith had 28 snaps and literally did not make the stat sheet with even an assisted tackle. Second round pick TE Luke Schoonmaker had 1 snap on offense. The UFA Brevyn Spann-Ford is getting 4 times as many snaps as Schoonmaker. What a complete disaster.

The lone bright spot from last year’s draft is 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown who had 7 tackles yesterday including 3 TFLs. He is an impact player on a really bad defense.

So here are the players selected in 2023 and what they bring to the team:
  • 1st round: DT Mazi Smith. Shown almost nothing in 25 regular season games so far. Not only showing he’s not a first round talent, he’s not even appearing to be even a draftable talent. On a team literally begging for DL to shore up the run stoppage, he plays less than 50% of the snaps.
  • 2nd round TE Luke Schoonmaker. Can’t earn playing time. Typically gets less than 5 snaps a game. Has 8 receptions in 8 games this year and 16 receptions in 23 regular season games in his career.
  • 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown. Missed his rookie year due to a knee injury but has been a real bright spot showing great speed, range and tackling ability.
  • 4th round DE Vilami Fehoko. No longer with the team - waived this last September.
  • 5th round T Asim Richards. A backup OL who has looked decent at times in training camp but will only be pressed into regular season duty in a pinch.
  • 6th round CB Eric Scott. Was also waived in September; now on the chiefs practice squad.
  • 6th round RB Deuce Vaughn. In a season and a half almost never plays. Has only played in 12 regular season games and has 7 carries for 20 yards.
  • 7th round WR Jalen Brooks. He has played as a backup WR with occasional receptions but in a season and a half has 13 receptions, no TDs.
  • There are some 2023 UFAs who have been decent for this team. FB Hunter Luepke, G TJ Bass and (now injured) TE John Stephens Jr. Contributors and depth pieces.
So for a draft and develop team, having a draft be this unhelpful is a disaster. It’s one of the biggest reasons this team is so bad this year.
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The Mazi pick made sense at the time, I didn't like the Scoonmaker pick. The Cowboys should just stop drafting TEs in the 2nd round they're just terrible at it.
 
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Bobhaze said:
This organization has sold itself for years as being built as a “draft and develop“ team. Not only is this “draft and develop” model outdated and long ago shown to be not enough. Without some decent FAs thrown in as well, it places enormous pressure on each year’s draft to produce starters or at the very least, quality depth.

The 2023 draft is starting to look like a total disaster for an organization completely dependent on the draft to stay competitive, much less be a team capable of winning playoff games. When your first AND second round picks barely even make the box score, your draft is already a disaster.

Yesterday in Atlanta, 2023 1st round pick Mazi Smith had 28 snaps and literally did not make the stat sheet with even an assisted tackle. Second round pick TE Luke Schoonmaker had 1 snap on offense. The UFA Brevyn Spann-Ford is getting 4 times as many snaps as Schoonmaker. What a complete disaster.

The lone bright spot from last year’s draft is 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown who had 7 tackles yesterday including 3 TFLs. He is an impact player on a really bad defense.

So here are the players selected in 2023 and what they bring to the team:
  • 1st round: DT Mazi Smith. Shown almost nothing in 25 regular season games so far. Not only showing he’s not a first round talent, he’s not even appearing to be even a draftable talent. On a team literally begging for DL to shore up the run stoppage, he plays less than 50% of the snaps.
  • 2nd round TE Luke Schoonmaker. Can’t earn playing time. Typically gets less than 5 snaps a game. Has 8 receptions in 8 games this year and 16 receptions in 23 regular season games in his career.
  • 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown. Missed his rookie year due to a knee injury but has been a real bright spot showing great speed, range and tackling ability.
  • 4th round DE Vilami Fehoko. No longer with the team - waived this last September.
  • 5th round T Asim Richards. A backup OL who has looked decent at times in training camp but will only be pressed into regular season duty in a pinch.
  • 6th round CB Eric Scott. Was also waived in September; now on the chiefs practice squad.
  • 6th round RB Deuce Vaughn. In a season and a half almost never plays. Has only played in 12 regular season games and has 7 carries for 20 yards.
  • 7th round WR Jalen Brooks. He has played as a backup WR with occasional receptions but in a season and a half has 13 receptions, no TDs.
  • There are some 2023 UFAs who have been decent for this team. FB Hunter Luepke, G TJ Bass and (now injured) TE John Stephens Jr. Contributors and depth pieces.
So for a draft and develop team, having a draft be this unhelpful is a disaster. It’s one of the biggest reasons this team is so bad this year.
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Jerry Dumbo GM Jones turns dreams into nightmares. He blind sided McClay with the Cooper trade and not resigning Randy Gregory who they invested years in his suspensions. He let go NFL starting OL. No recovery from all the players he let go after the 2021-2022 season. That 2023 Jonesboys team luck its way to 12-5. Welcome to reality a year late.
 
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When lose key players, then start reaching in the draft to replace them. This is what happens.
 
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2024 draft isn't doing much either, you can write about them next season.
 
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SteveTheCowboy said:
Even when not in on the tackle....overshown is often in the vicinity making an impact. Either sealing off an escape route or ensuring the tackle. Wonderful.
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He’s played solid for basically a first year player who didn’t get the advantage of having a year to learn the scheme since it changed
 
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Kingofholland said:
The Mazi pick made sense at the time, I didn't like the Scoonmaker pick. The Cowboys should just stop drafting TEs in the 2nd round they're just terrible at it.
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That was a Parcells philosophy that they refuse to remove from their heads.

That and “the devil you know” thing on second contracts for anyone. I’ll never forget those words.

Parcells was nice as far as turning the franchise in the right direction, but not so much on other situations.
 

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Bobhaze said:
This organization has sold itself for years as being built as a “draft and develop“ team. Not only is this “draft and develop” model outdated and long ago shown to be not enough. Without some decent FAs thrown in as well, it places enormous pressure on each year’s draft to produce starters or at the very least, quality depth.

The 2023 draft is starting to look like a total disaster for an organization completely dependent on the draft to stay competitive, much less be a team capable of winning playoff games. When your first AND second round picks barely even make the box score, your draft is already a disaster.

Yesterday in Atlanta, 2023 1st round pick Mazi Smith had 28 snaps and literally did not make the stat sheet with even an assisted tackle. Second round pick TE Luke Schoonmaker had 1 snap on offense. The UFA Brevyn Spann-Ford is getting 4 times as many snaps as Schoonmaker. What a complete disaster.

The lone bright spot from last year’s draft is 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown who had 7 tackles yesterday including 3 TFLs. He is an impact player on a really bad defense.

So here are the players selected in 2023 and what they bring to the team:
  • 1st round: DT Mazi Smith. Shown almost nothing in 25 regular season games so far. Not only showing he’s not a first round talent, he’s not even appearing to be even a draftable talent. On a team literally begging for DL to shore up the run stoppage, he plays less than 50% of the snaps.
  • 2nd round TE Luke Schoonmaker. Can’t earn playing time. Typically gets less than 5 snaps a game. Has 8 receptions in 8 games this year and 16 receptions in 23 regular season games in his career.
  • 3rd round LB DeMarvion Overshown. Missed his rookie year due to a knee injury but has been a real bright spot showing great speed, range and tackling ability.
  • 4th round DE Vilami Fehoko. No longer with the team - waived this last September.
  • 5th round T Asim Richards. A backup OL who has looked decent at times in training camp but will only be pressed into regular season duty in a pinch.
  • 6th round CB Eric Scott. Was also waived in September; now on the chiefs practice squad.
  • 6th round RB Deuce Vaughn. In a season and a half almost never plays. Has only played in 12 regular season games and has 7 carries for 20 yards.
  • 7th round WR Jalen Brooks. He has played as a backup WR with occasional receptions but in a season and a half has 13 receptions, no TDs.
  • There are some 2023 UFAs who have been decent for this team. FB Hunter Luepke, G TJ Bass and (now injured) TE John Stephens Jr. Contributors and depth pieces.
So for a draft and develop team, having a draft be this unhelpful is a disaster. It’s one of the biggest reasons this team is so bad this year.
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A 2nd round pick should EASILY be a starter as an interior OL or any Linebacker position. Why we are obsessed with picking TEs in the 2nd round has always been puzzling to me. Especially when we've proven time and time again, we can find TEs after the 2nd round. Forget 2nd round, Schoonmaker is looking like a guy that should not have been drafted!!!!!!
 
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