The Annual Eagles Lovefest

[Sydla]

Smart thing is to build through the draft. Get players that will grow with your young QB and build chemistry instead of investing money in players that may go to the highest bidder in a season.

We resigned Williams due to this reason. We wanted Dak to have familiarity and continue to build chemistry. This will allow him to focus on improving other aspects of his game instead of focusing on building chemistry and getting the timing down with all new players.

LOL. So you are going with the "progress stoppers" angle?

Geezus.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Actually I think it's a pretty smart way to do business, these one year deals for vets. I've been advocating the Cowboys do this to fill in holes and create some depth. This actually is new for the Eagles. They've been burned on long term deals for guys - Maxwell being one of the most recent.

For Jeffries, it's perfect. You aren't tied to a guy who has some question marks, so if he sucks or gets hurt, you aren't tied to a vet likely sliding down. They drafted two WRs in this draft and likely will draft more going forward unless Jeffries proves his worth this year.

And FWIW, last year, they weren't given rave reviews for their offseason and no one said they would be great last year. I think people just kind of make stuff up about what people have said about our rivals so we can play the old, "No respect" card.

They draft 2 guys on day 3 and Hollins was a reach in the 4th. Those two are total stabs in the dark at a position they desperately need solid youth at, especially considering how agressive they were to get their QB. Given his injury history, Jeffrey could fall off at any time and he isnt a guy you will probably ever give a multi year deal for. 1 year deals are nice if you have a long term plan in place. Unless they plan on rehabilitating the garbage ( although Matthew's isnt terrible) they have drafted and traded for in the past couple years, they dont seem to have.

Every year since the tail end of Reids tenure, it seems the Eagles go through the offseason without any real vision of how they want to build there team. They sign a couple name players and people get excited. It almost seems like their entire goal as an organization is to sell season tickets. However their hit rate on everything has been so abysmal that it's gotten to the point where I expect any key move they make to fail. Hell even their best draft pick since firing Reid is one suspension away from missing an entire year

 

[vlad]

It's always interesting to me that people get pissy when other East teams get praised for offseason moves, etc.

This.

 

[Sydla]

They draft 2 guys on day 3 and Hollins was a reach in the 4th. Those two are total stabs in the dark at a position they desperately need solid youth at, especially considering how agressive they were to get their QB. Given his injury history, Jeffrey could fall off at any time and he isnt a guy you will probably ever give a multi year deal for. 1 year deals are nice if you have a long term plan in place. Unless they plan on rehabilitating the garbage ( although Matthew's isnt terrible) they have drafted and traded for in the past couple years, they dont seem to have.

Every year since the tail end of Reids tenure, it seems the Eagles go through the offseason without any real vision of how they want to build there team. They sign a couple name players and people get excited. It almost seems like their entire goal as an organization is to sell season tickets. However their hit rate on everything has been so abysmal that it's gotten to the point where I expect any key move they make to fail. Hell even their best draft pick since firing Reid is one suspension away from missing an entire year

Well one, they brought in a guy from the Ravens to run their draft. So right there, it's a noticeable change from what they typically have done.

But again, I am puzzled at the pissfest here. They did have a decent offseason. I think anyone who suggests otherwise is fooling themselves. Does it make them a SB contender in 2017. Of course not. Further, who is predicting they are now the team to beat?

So what we have here is a thread complaining about the lovefest the Eagles are getting and yet I can't find any national writer or outlet picking the Eagles as the team to beat. We have a thread upset about giving props to them for a good offseason, which frankly, they had.

What am I missing?

 

[BourbonBalz]

The NFC East is back to being extremely competitive. There's not a lot of separation between the four teams. Of course, I think we have the most talent in the division and are the most complete team, but nothing is a given. I see the East finishing in this manner: 1) Dallas 2) N.Y. 3) Washington 4) Philadelphia. However, the teams are so close that injuries will most likely determine the end results.

 

[Screw The Hall]

I think two things are true about the Eagles. I think they have had a solid offseason and they have a ton of question marks. There's a strong possibility they are going to get brutalized defensively, especially when you take into account the offenses in this division. Basically, this entire offseason for them has been a collection of Wentz-friendly moves, which I think is smart. However, if Wentz isn't who they think he is, and the lovefest is largely speculative at this point, nothing else they have done will matter.

 

[robjay04]

LOL. So you are going with the "progress stoppers" angle?

Geezus.

Not exactly.

As I said, it's good to mix in a veteran on two. When literally all of your skill players expected to see the field are possibly one year rentals, it can backfire. Especially when those players are shunned from many teams because of drug concerns(Blount, Jefferies) or age concerns.

Eagles always have flashy offseasons. They make moves in the offseason a lot of fans would do if they were GMs. Fill their holes with big name players. Still they have zero playoff success since George Bush was President to show for it.

 

[DFWJC]

It's begun...

I've been reading and seeing it in the media the past few weeks. These mediots get suckered in every offseason by the Eagles and announce they're the team to beat or winners of the offseason.

I swear this began 8-9 years ago with the signing of Nnamdi Asumougha.

I like the movie "Invincible"
But these knuckleheads are making me like it less over time.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Well one, they brought in a guy from the Ravens to run their draft. So right there, it's a noticeable change from what they typically have done.

But again, I am puzzled at the pissfest here. They did have a decent offseason. I think anyone who suggests otherwise is fooling themselves. Does it make them a SB contender in 2017. Of course not. Further, who is predicting they are now the team to beat?

So what we have here is a thread complaining about the lovefest the Eagles are getting and yet I can't find any national writer or outlet picking the Eagles as the team to beat. We have a thread upset about giving props to them for a good offseason, which frankly, they had.

What am I missing?

Well you have a CBS calling them the 5th best front office in the NFL when there personel moves since there GM has been nothing short of abysmal. They have been propped up many other times since The Dream Team after splashy offseasons. Died down a bit after Kelly was fired

 

[Sydla]

Not exactly.

As I said, it's good to mix in a veteran on two. When literally all of your skill players expected to see the field are possibly one year rentals, it can backfire. Especially when those players are shunned from many teams because of drug concerns(Blount, Jefferies) or age concerns.

Eagles always have flashy offseasons. They make moves in the offseason a lot of fans would do if they were GMs. Fill their holes with big name players. Still they have zero playoff success since George Bush was President to show for it.

There was nothing flashy about this offseason. That's the point. They had holes, they couldn't fill them all in the draft. They need pass rush help, CB help, WR help and RB help. Those were their most pressing issues. They couldn't fill them all in one draft. So in order to fill some holes, they signed some vets to one year deals. Pretty smart to me. Much better than than signing vets to long terms deals worth tens of millions of dollars.

You guys are literally complaining about things that are non-existent. They did have a productive offseason on paper. And no one is claiming they are the team to now beat based on those acquisitions.

So again, what am I missing here?

 

[Sydla]

Well you have a CBS calling them the 5th best front office in the NFL when there personel moves since there GM has been nothing short of abysmal. They have been propped up many other times since The Dream Team after splashy offseasons. Died down a bit after Kelly was fired

As pointed out, it really wasn't a ranking of front offices, it was a ranking of the offseasons. Personally, I think their offseason being ranked 5th is a stretch. But I don't then go from that CBS ranking to stating that the media, overall, is once again totally overrating them. That's quite a leap there.

 

[HeavyBarrel]

The Eagles are the least successful, less popular team in their OWN home state and still get all the press.....

 

[robjay04]

There was nothing flashy about this offseason. That's the point. They had holes, they couldn't fill them all in the draft. They need pass rush help, CB help, WR help and RB help. Those were their most pressing issues. They couldn't fill them all in one draft. So in order to fill some holes, they signed some vets to one year deals. Pretty smart to me. Much better than than signing vets to long terms deals worth tens of millions of dollars.

You guys are literally complaining about things that are non-existent. They did have a productive offseason on paper. And no one is claiming they are the team to now beat based on those acquisitions.

So again, what am I missing here?

I disagree with having all of your skill players on one year deals in your QBs second season---that's another argument. I can see your side of the coin as well. I just feel like the Eagles went a little overboard and it could backfire. Best case scenario---they all pan out and Eagles have to pay them or start all over next season...worse case scenario, they aren't married to the players long term. It's a good bandaid but not really forward thinking when you have a young QB.

I believe the originator of the thread read a couple articles hyping the Eagles and figured the annual hype fest was about to happen. It started with the "dream team" and went through the Kelly years, it does seem like the Eagles always get praise for their offseason moves though they haven't worked out in a decade. I think a big reason they get their hype is because they have a very "fan friendly" offseason.

 

[okstateCowboy]

The Eagles are the least successful, less popular team in their OWN home state and still get all the press.....

True but I don't think they are exactly competing for press. Pittsburgh and Philly might as well be in different states. Philly is pretty much New Jersey.

 

[JoeKing]

If they ever win a Super Bowl, it will be bad. Very very bad.

They must never do this as the integrity of reality as we know it depends on it. They must lose. And continue to lose. It is a bonus if they do it painfully though.

If they ever did win a SB, they would proclaim it the greatest SB ever won and the game should seize to exit because no SB victory that comes after will ever live it to theirs. They can not be allowed to win the SB for I do so love the empty eagles trophy case emoji.

 

[darthseinfeld]

As pointed out, it really wasn't a ranking of front offices, it was a ranking of the offseasons. Personally, I think their offseason being ranked 5th is a stretch. But I don't then go from that CBS ranking to stating that the media, overall, is once again totally overrating them. That's quite a leap there.

Honestly I was not impressed with there offseason. Jeffery is a very good when healthy, but there is a reason why he is on a 1 year deal. He is a risk and with soft tissue issues, you never know if he will go Mikes Austin. You dont have much insurance after him. Smith could be a good go route guy again, but I have no idea if Wentz has the touch yet to utilize a real threat. The rest of there signings werent anything home about and losing Logan is gonna hurt.

There draft was decent but not great. Barnett should be a steady DE, but they picked Jones too high. Considering the injury and the postition its gonna probably be two years before he is a quality NFL CB. After that Gibson was the only other pick I liked.

If this all sounds like downgrading their moves. I am. 100%. Over the last 6 years the organization has proven they dont know how to build a quality football team. I literally assume every move they make will fail and have good reason to do so. I dont care who they got from the Ravens to run their draft. Even if the guy turns out to be a good talent evaluator for them, Howie will just get paraniod, remind Jeff Lurie of the illicit pictures he has and get him fired.

I'm not buying into a single thing this organization does until they can string together some playoff seasons.

 

[FaSho]

I just hope Carson Wentz takes no step forward, and never ends up being better than mediocre.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Jazzcat encapsulated it perfectly.

I actually think the Eagles did have a nice offseason. But it's also true the media is getting suckered into them as favorites again.

We've been force fed to believe Carson Wentz had a great rookie season and is apparently on the verge of breaking out.

 

[Sydla]

Jazzcat encapsulated it perfectly.

I actually think the Eagles did have a nice offseason. But it's also true the media is getting suckered into them as favorites again.

We've been force fed to believe Carson Wentz had a great rookie season and is apparently on the verge of breaking out.

Where are they listed as the favorites?

CBS had an article last week and they had the Eagles dead last in the division.

SI had an article that has them third, at 7-9.

Football Outsiders had the Eagles getting better but still third in the division at 8-8 behind the Cowboys at 10-6.

Fox has an article about predicting the over/under for teams. The writer took the over on Cowboys at 9.5 and under on the Eagles at 7.5.

 

[MileyDancer]

No worries. Theyd need a real QB to win anything.

And one that has a reflection in the mirror. Gingers have no souls.